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Mad Mav
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:24:00 -
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But the vehicle changes were still implemented, would that have provided more balance between the two?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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RA Drahcir
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:27:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:28:00 -
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Keep the forge nerf, that's the only real balanced thing. Make swarm range 200m. I think that would work out.
Dropship Specialist
Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Militia: 26; Tanks: 10
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:28:00 -
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We'd be getting one shotted with our Hardeners down.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
684
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:32:00 -
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Maybe, but doubtful.
The way I see it is the problems are either, or a combination of both, the buff to speed and ability to call in 5-6 low cost, low risk super tanks. Previously tank spam wasn't an issue because they were high cost, high risk items that not everyone was spec'd into.. and the militia variants were pretty squishy. Now every tom, **** and harry can call them in anywhere, anytime... and recall them just as fast if the situation is not favorable.
Fix the two above (and take away vehicle recall now that the price was nerfed, or give me the ability to recall my suits and run around naked) and balance will be restored '
P.S. you can keep the AV nerf if you tone down the buffs you put on Tanks |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:35:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:We'd be getting one shotted with our Hardeners down.
One shotted by what? the breach forge gun if you got hit in the critical spot and were running a militia tank while your hardeners were down?
So what? how often does that happen.... who uses the breach forge gun? do people still go up on towers anymore now that tanks are as fast as a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings on a single nitro? lol
Guess what... my proto heavy with 1700 hitpoints can die just as fast to a militia shotgun if a scout sneaks up on me. **** happens, deal with it |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:46:00 -
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Yes. Militia tanks would be vulnerable to proto AV.
The forge and swarm nerfs are pretty absurd; both increasing the charge up time and reducing the damage on forges to this extent was an exercise in absurdity and more than halving swarm lock-on range was a terrible idea. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:50:00 -
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So is the issue centered on the availability of prototype AV weaponry , but not prototype tier vehicles?
Pineapples on pizza.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1308
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:53:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:We'd be getting one shotted with our Hardeners down.
You'd still have the ridiculous speed to outrun everything while unhardened.
I think that it'd be the only way to truely balance AVvV without capacitors.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:55:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Maybe, but doubtful.
The way I see it is the problems are either, or a combination of both, the buff to speed and ability to call in 5-6 low cost, low risk super tanks. Previously tank spam wasn't an issue because they were high cost, high risk items that not everyone was spec'd into.. and the militia variants were pretty squishy. Now every tom, **** and harry can call them in anywhere, anytime... and recall them just as fast if the situation is not favorable.
Fix the two above (and take away vehicle recall now that the price was nerfed, or give me the ability to recall my suits and run around naked) and balance will be restored '
P.S. you can keep the AV nerf if you tone down the buffs you put on Tanks
5 tanks costs at least 1.1 million isk, its the super rich people who spam proto |
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