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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 840	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:27:00 - [1] - Quote it's really quite simple. i was playing yesterday and today and at first i was cool with the tanks. that was until i kept getting put into a match with 4+ tanks on the enemy team. to be honest tanks are fine right now. in every aspect (except for price) possible. it's not the quality of the tanks, as in being OP. It's the Quantity of them. i agree, tanks should require teamwork, and they do. i'm not saying to nerf them. let me give you some perspective: 1 tank - tough to kill with just one person, but possible. two people can easily make short work of it. 2 tanks - tougher, but still possible. with proto AV and some good teammates, you can take them out. 3 tanks - getting into the OP category. it is already taking four or more people for the other two tanks, so this is getting really tough. a ful squad of good AVers can still make short work of them, in the right set-up. 4+ tanks - this is what we are seeing so often. this is why everyone sees tanks as OP. if thos tanks are staying in a pack, then there is no way to take them out fast enough, before the one you're aiming at escapes. on top of that you have to deal with the fire the other 3+ are throwing at you. this is when tanks may be considered OP. my solution is to limit the amount of tanks per team to no higher than 3. this way, AV will still have a chance and both teams still get a fair amount of action. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1667	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Lorhak Gannarsein 718	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote Checkmate suggested this, and I agree. As an INTERIM fix. At least until infantry have some kind of webifier (oh god I said it) to slow us down, thereby rendering us vulnerable to AV. >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 841	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:30:00 - [4] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 yup lol Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1667	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:31:00 - [5] - Quote My answer: fug yea, but only if people with more sp in vehicles have a priority. Cause I don't want to be useless because 3 blueberries decided to call in somas Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Lorhak Gannarsein 718	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:31:00 - [6] - Quote Also, I'd want any countermeasures for such a module to be low slots. Gunnys already have shorter active periods, and are more vulnerable with hardeners inactive. >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Cosgar ParagonX 8758	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:32:00 - [7] - Quote And this is why you never let inmates run the asylum. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 841	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:33:00 - [8] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Also, I'd want any countermeasures for such a module to be low slots. Gunnys already have shorter active periods, and are more vulnerable with hardeners inactive. you're referring to webifiers? Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 402	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:33:00 - [9] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 Or stop thinking like an AV scrub and kill them off one at a time.. ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 841	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:35:00 - [10] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 Or stop thinking like an AV scrub and kill them off one at a time.. did you not read the post? when there are 5 tanks, it is damn near impossible to take one out before it escapes Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?

THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 402	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:41:00 - [11] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 Or stop thinking like an AV scrub and kill them off one at a time.. did you not read the post? when there are 5 tanks, it is damn near impossible to take one out before it escapes How is that any different than focusing on one tank before they escape? Maybe I have a hard time sympathizing for the majority of known AVers, but it's now our fault their scrubby tactics don't work anymore. ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 841	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:55:00 - [12] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: TL; DR Tank VS AV is fine 5 tanks VS AV is bad Limit amount of tanks per team at 3 Or stop thinking like an AV scrub and kill them off one at a time.. did you not read the post? when there are 5 tanks, it is damn near impossible to take one out before it escapes How is that any different than focusing on one tank before they escape? Maybe I have a hard time sympathizing for the majority of known AVers, but it's now our fault their scrubby tactics don't work anymore. it's different because 1 tank with a blaster can easily can easily murder any infantry. 5 tanks with blasters make for an unstoppable force where if an AVer is aiming at one tank, that tank will be able to escape while the other 4 cover him. allthe while only a selct few players will be able to deal any damage to them. i am a scout, but since 1.7 if i see 1 or 2 tanks i pull out a forge gun. 3 or more and i switch back to my scout, because one guy vs. 3 tanks just isn't gonna happen. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 402	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:02:00 - [13] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: it's different because 1 tank with a blaster can easily can easily murder any infantry. 5 tanks with blasters make for an unstoppable force where if an AVer is aiming at one tank, that tank will be able to escape while the other 4 cover him. allthe while only a selct few players will be able to deal any damage to them. i am a scout, but since 1.7 if i see 1 or 2 tanks i pull out a forge gun. 3 or more and i switch back to my scout, because one guy vs. 3 tanks just isn't gonna happen. Fair enough. Honestly, your best bet is to get somewhere they can't get you and just deny them the area. But with that many tanks you may have issues denying it to all of them. ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?


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