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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:14:00 -
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Since I am one of the few people who runs Caldari FW and not just spam easy mode min/gal FW I am annoyed at how the LP payout system works. I played 9 cal mil FW matches today but only won one of them. But in all the matches I was top three and several times the number one player on Caldari side. In two matches I even outscored/ out killed the top dude fighting for the Frogs.
Yet in all these games I received the same 65 LP as the retards on my side going 0/15 with 200 war points.
Like the ISK in pub matches the LP should be paid out according to how you help your team. The better you do the more percentage of the total allowed LP you get. And then all the idiots and team killers will be left with the scraps.
I see that as the only motivation anyone would have to continue fighting for cal/amarr against the masses playing for the gal/min side. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4913
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:22:00 -
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Indeed since with relative ease even during a Minmatar push I can still run Missions and complexes with out having to even fight an enemy ship.....
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
663
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:27:00 -
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I am actually enjoy in the noncompetitive style of play in factional warfare. It meant that I can focus on what needs to be done to win the match, not what I need to do to get number one on the scoreboard, so I can get payed.
I play for Gallente though, so I don't have any complaints about not getting payed. I feel your pain though, but what you have described does not appeal to me as a desirable solution.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:33:00 -
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It works in pub matches. Do better to get a bigger share or the total ISK paid out. Why would that not be a good thing for LP payout? The total LP paid to the losing side would be the same. But the players that actually worked hard and tried to win the game would get a bigger cut.
Seems fair to me. |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4914
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:36:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I am actually enjoying the noncompetitive style of play in factional warfare. It means that I can focus on what needs to be done to win the match, not what I need to do to get number one on the scoreboard, so I can get payed.
I play for Gallente though, so I don't have any complaints about not getting payed. I feel your pain though, but what you have described does not appeal to me as a desirable solution.
I agree, but the fact is the organised Amarr FW groups as rare as they are.....are trying very hard to win, however the disproportionate number of blue dots in a small FW community are undermining the efforts of the skilled players dissolving the number of skilled playevers across a number of different fronts.
You know as well as I do the Amarr aren't a popular faction...however I see that we have a lot of very skilled players.....unlike the Gallente who are popular and have a larger pool of veteran players to drawn from and probably a very moderate ratio of skilled FWer to blue berries.
The Amarr are 3:1 in favour of blue dot idiots.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2179
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:46:00 -
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its not "easy mode spam" to be more organized and have better players btw
GǃIf I ate myself would I become twice as big or disappear?" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta/EVE/MAG Vet
Minja/Logi
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
663
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:49:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I am actually enjoying the noncompetitive style of play in factional warfare. It means that I can focus on what needs to be done to win the match, not what I need to do to get number one on the scoreboard, so I can get payed.
I play for Gallente though, so I don't have any complaints about not getting payed. I feel your pain though, but what you have described does not appeal to me as a desirable solution. I agree, but the fact is the organised Amarr FW groups as rare as they are.....are trying very hard to win, however the disproportionate number of blue dots in a small FW community are undermining the efforts of the skilled players dissolving the number of skilled playevers across a number of different fronts. You know as well as I do the Amarr aren't a popular faction...however I see that we have a lot of very skilled players.....unlike the Gallente who are popular and have a larger pool of veteran players to drawn from and probably a very moderate ratio of skilled FWer to blue berries. The Amarr are 3:1 in favour of blue dot idiots.
Again, I feel your pain, however, I do not agree with your solution. This would utterly ruin FW in my opinion. There are always multiple solution to every problem; I do not see the solution you are proposing to be in the spirit of what I think would make FW a more interesting and overal rewarding experience. I am not really motivated to think of another solution, since I am not experiencing your troubles, but I think that if you put your mind to it you could come up with something acceptable. Good luck.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
35
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:01:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:its not "easy mode spam" to be more organized and have better players btw
It is. I have played on gal/min side dozens of times with corp mates and it is not even a challenge. The Caldari and amarr side gets red lined in no time. So it it easy mode since there is no challenge and very little risk.
Also my proposal would effect all FW. so the players on the winning side that did better would also get a bigger cut off the LP.
As it stands now there is no point in fighting for Caldari or amarr just to lose, gain zero standing and 65 Lp. The worst player on the winning side still gets paid 5x as much LP as the best guy on the losing side. If my LP payout at least matched my efforts I would have some motivation to play against 2 synced squads when my side has a dozen blueberries and 4 decent players. |
Satja Askarin
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:02:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:True Adamance wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I am actually enjoying the noncompetitive style of play in factional warfare. It means that I can focus on what needs to be done to win the match, not what I need to do to get number one on the scoreboard, so I can get payed.
I play for Gallente though, so I don't have any complaints about not getting payed. I feel your pain though, but what you have described does not appeal to me as a desirable solution. I agree, but the fact is the organised Amarr FW groups as rare as they are.....are trying very hard to win, however the disproportionate number of blue dots in a small FW community are undermining the efforts of the skilled players dissolving the number of skilled playevers across a number of different fronts. You know as well as I do the Amarr aren't a popular faction...however I see that we have a lot of very skilled players.....unlike the Gallente who are popular and have a larger pool of veteran players to drawn from and probably a very moderate ratio of skilled FWer to blue berries. The Amarr are 3:1 in favour of blue dot idiots. Again, I feel your pain, however, I do not agree with your solution. This would utterly ruin FW in my opinion. There are always multiple solution to every problem; I do not see the solution you are proposing to be in the spirit of what I think would make FW a more interesting and overal rewarding experience. I am not really motivated to think of another solution, since I am not experiencing your troubles, but I think that if you put your mind to it you could come up with something acceptable. Good luck.
Oh I don't this Kador agrees with the idea of merit based LP gains, he simply means there need to be other ways to accrue LP besides direct combat. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3585
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:11:00 -
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I chose Gallente because I'm pro Gallente, nuetral to Amarr and Minmatar and hate Caldari |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
666
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:11:00 -
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Satja Askarin wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:True Adamance wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:I am actually enjoying the noncompetitive style of play in factional warfare. It means that I can focus on what needs to be done to win the match, not what I need to do to get number one on the scoreboard, so I can get payed.
I play for Gallente though, so I don't have any complaints about not getting payed. I feel your pain though, but what you have described does not appeal to me as a desirable solution. I agree, but the fact is the organised Amarr FW groups as rare as they are.....are trying very hard to win, however the disproportionate number of blue dots in a small FW community are undermining the efforts of the skilled players dissolving the number of skilled playevers across a number of different fronts. You know as well as I do the Amarr aren't a popular faction...however I see that we have a lot of very skilled players.....unlike the Gallente who are popular and have a larger pool of veteran players to drawn from and probably a very moderate ratio of skilled FWer to blue berries. The Amarr are 3:1 in favour of blue dot idiots. Again, I feel your pain, however, I do not agree with your solution. This would utterly ruin FW in my opinion. There are always multiple solution to every problem; I do not see the solution you are proposing to be in the spirit of what I think would make FW a more interesting and overal rewarding experience. I am not really motivated to think of another solution, since I am not experiencing your troubles, but I think that if you put your mind to it you could come up with something acceptable. Good luck. Oh I don't this Kador agrees with the idea of merit based LP gains, he simply means there need to be other ways to accrue LP besides direct combat.
...say what?
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
429
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Posted - 2013.12.16 04:14:00 -
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I think the stupid Blueberries in Caldari FW don't understand what FW is for and just run around like their in a Pub match. Also, there is the fact that most seem to be Gallente in disguise. I noticed that while playing EVE today, the Caldari Militia is better organized than Caldari FW on land makes it out to be.
Names of playstyles
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