DUST Search - Forget swarms for tanks

Seymor Krelborn wrote:

Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:

Seymor Krelborn wrote:

Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:

Swarms are a light weapon.

We have other heavy weapons on the way.

Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs.

then shotguns shouldn't be able to take out a heavy suit.

and swarms should be able to target infantry like the forge gun can.

then we have a deal.

I think CCP sees swarms as superfluous and with new heavy weapons on the way just kept them in the game for now until the new racial stuff and respec. I'll bet they get rid of them altogether.

Let's face it, the problem is that swarms are a light weapon and really the only thing causing arguments about tanks.

Add all the racial heavy weapons, maybe even make swarms a heavy weapon, and you have made the heavy suit viable again while providing a better explanation for AV power vs. tanks.

Remember, CCP is planning further ahead than just right now. They have ramped up development and this is the first step in realigning things.

so because you think ccp is gonna add something better than swarms at some unannounced future date, it was smart to nerf swarms so bad NOW??? and are you even aware of what soon tm means?

like the guy a post or 2 up said, ever hear of an rpg? yeah they kill vehicles and they are light...but I know your gonna keep supporting this philosophy because ive already shot it down in other threads yet you just "tea party" on with your "living in a bubble that logic cant penetrate" attitude

CCP has been planning the same crap since 2009! where you been? and where is it? quit drinking the Kool-Aid bro....

just...please... stop being simple....kittens die when stupid people speak....

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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 845	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:03:00 - [1] - Quote Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2666	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:19:00 - [2] - Quote Okay. Respec then please. No.
ALT2 acc The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 33	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:30:00 - [3] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Okay. Respec then please. in 6 months
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 433	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:35:00 - [4] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Okay. Respec then please. How about you just save up some skill points?
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1558	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:39:00 - [5] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. then shotguns shouldn't be able to take out a heavy suit. and swarms should be able to target infantry like the forge gun can. then we have a deal. CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
Terarrim Valor Coalition Proficiency V. 57	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:44:00 - [6] - Quote And yet every other single game with infantry and vehicles have rpgs an seem to work well vs tanks why is dust magically different? Also in every other single game with infantry and tanks mines actually destroy tanks. People seem to forget that many people who have gone high skill in swarms have actually paid real money for boosters in order for the weapons to be competitive, People who have skilled into AV for millions of SP and have paid money and spent time to grind those SP. I think its a bit unfair for part of the player base to say that swarms should no longer actually touch what they are were desinged for and in addtion do nothing else that is to hurt Vehicles.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1326	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:48:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. SOON right? And out the window went any chance of this game of retaining / attracting FPS players
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 847	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:50:00 - [8] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. then shotguns shouldn't be able to take out a heavy suit. and swarms should be able to target infantry like the forge gun can. then we have a deal. I think CCP sees swarms as superfluous and with new heavy weapons on the way just kept them in the game for now until the new racial stuff and respec. I'll bet they get rid of them altogether. Let's face it, the problem is that swarms are a light weapon and really the only thing causing arguments about tanks. Add all the racial heavy weapons, maybe even make swarms a heavy weapon, and you have made the heavy suit viable again while providing a better explanation for AV power vs. tanks. Remember, CCP is planning further ahead than just right now. They have ramped up development and this is the first step in realigning things. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 847	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:53:00 - [9] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. SOON right? And out the window went any chance of this game of retaining / attracting FPS players Has CCP been any different? The answer is no. That is always their problem GÇö player retention. I don't like it but as I said in the previous post CCP has a bigger plan it seems over the next months. I'll bet big announcements at Fanfest. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 407	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:10:00 - [10] - Quote my your right I guess light rpgs aren't suppose to take out heavy armor in real life Dedicated Shotgun Scout

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3221	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:13:00 - [11] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Okay. Respec then please. THIS AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2671	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Okay. Respec then please. How about you just save up some skill points? How about swarms return to being remotely useful? No.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1567	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:22:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. then shotguns shouldn't be able to take out a heavy suit. and swarms should be able to target infantry like the forge gun can. then we have a deal. I think CCP sees swarms as superfluous and with new heavy weapons on the way just kept them in the game for now until the new racial stuff and respec. I'll bet they get rid of them altogether. Let's face it, the problem is that swarms are a light weapon and really the only thing causing arguments about tanks. Add all the racial heavy weapons, maybe even make swarms a heavy weapon, and you have made the heavy suit viable again while providing a better explanation for AV power vs. tanks. Remember, CCP is planning further ahead than just right now. They have ramped up development and this is the first step in realigning things. so because you think ccp is gonna add something better than swarms at some unannounced future date, it was smart to nerf swarms so bad NOW??? and are you even aware of what soon tm means? like the guy a post or 2 up said, ever hear of an rpg? yeah they kill vehicles and they are light...but I know your gonna keep supporting this philosophy because ive already shot it down in other threads yet you just "tea party" on with your "living in a bubble that logic cant penetrate" attitude CCP has been planning the same crap since 2009! where you been? and where is it? quit drinking the Kool-Aid bro.... just...please... stop being simple....kittens die when stupid people speak.... CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 850	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:26:00 - [14] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Swarms are a light weapon. We have other heavy weapons on the way. Plus GÇö speeders and MAVs. then shotguns shouldn't be able to take out a heavy suit. and swarms should be able to target infantry like the forge gun can. then we have a deal. I think CCP sees swarms as superfluous and with new heavy weapons on the way just kept them in the game for now until the new racial stuff and respec. I'll bet they get rid of them altogether. Let's face it, the problem is that swarms are a light weapon and really the only thing causing arguments about tanks. Add all the racial heavy weapons, maybe even make swarms a heavy weapon, and you have made the heavy suit viable again while providing a better explanation for AV power vs. tanks. Remember, CCP is planning further ahead than just right now. They have ramped up development and this is the first step in realigning things. so because you think ccp is gonna add something better than swarms at some unannounced future date, it was smart to nerf swarms so bad NOW??? and are you even aware of what soon tm means? like the guy a post or 2 up said, ever hear of an rpg? yeah they kill vehicles and they are light...but I know your gonna keep supporting this philosophy because ive already shot it down in other threads yet you just "tea party" on with your "living in a bubble that logic cant penetrate" attitude CCP has been planning the same crap since 2009! where you been? and where is it? quit drinking the Kool-Aid bro.... just...please... stop being simple....kittens die when stupid people speak.... Try posting a mature response like the rest of us and maybe you'd be taken seriously. Really, please tell me you are under the age of 16 with that attitude. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 960	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:32:00 - [15] - Quote even if they reverted swarms back to pre-1.7 they would still be called UP. It's because no one is using AV correctly now. When a tank has it's hardeners active than it should not remain your target. CCP painted a clear picture at to how vehicles were going to work before the patch. They would be moments of glory based combat types. When my actives go off. All AV even M-SLs destroy me if I stick around. Also they got rid of the 100% speed glitch. Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
Jason Pearson 3455	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:33:00 - [16] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Okay. Respec then please. No you will forever have Tree Climbing V, Banana Eating V and Throwing Poop V. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.


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