There is nothing in this entire game that I have not tried before.

(Bar the Dropships)

When you have to put any and all infantry efforts on hold to take down a tank, that's when it's a problem.

You can't just have a bunch of ppl spawn in with AV. These days you have to pretty much come up with an entire battle plan just to take on a damn soma.

Earlier on today I was loaded into a FW that was just ending, so I called in a railgun some just to get some free WP from redline turrets before the match ended.
I was assaulted by two guys with proto swarms, and all I did was turn on my hardener and roll casually back to my redline with minimal effort. This is not good game balance.

@Ghosts Chance

Isn't it amazing what you can do when you step outside of Tryhard mode?

Almost reminds me of when my friend had us balance on top of his DS so me and another corpmate could have a Nova Knife duel.

In heavy suits.

thats what a supply depot is for....


and thats why the bases with the supply depots are the power bases, the ones who hold that base are the ones with a versatility advantage.

you can just magically swap out to new suits and nuke the tank and resume your buisness.

just like i have to swap suits from my opening rush uplink suit to my brawler, then again to my demolitions defence suit throughout the game depending on whats needed.

A) they attacked a shield tank with explosive weapons
B) they did it when you had your hardener up
C) they got you the hell away fromt he redline where you were no longer bothering them in any way
D) they won that fight with the tank


AV is a specialisation, its a playstyle, i fully expect that there will be people who run around as AV all the time.

people who dont sdpecilise are going to have to swap suits yes, and no thats not a problem, thats normal, just as someone who doesnt run uplinks permantly has to swap to an uplink suit to drop them. just as people with multiple specs will swap between them duiring battles depending on whats needed.


ive died probably 15-20 or so times to tanks this week as infantry out of about 400 deaths....

all because i use my head.

Spare me the arrogance. You missed my point entirely.

When you have to put any and all infantry efforts on hold to take down a tank, that's when it's a problem.

reading these forums makes me think so.


my main means of AV is remotes/proxies and STANDARD packed AV

i dont have any skill points into swarms, i dont even have a militia forge or swarm fits made.


faced with a tank, i either use my brain and avoid its fire, use my AV minefield fit (with maybe a breach mass driver), or call on some friends if its a toughie.


now i DO have my railtank, but i dont call it out when im running as infantry just to destroy tanks, i really only pul it out when i feel like being a tanker not really as a means of AV.



tank AV balance seems pretty damn close to good now, bad tankers explode without effort, good tankers reguire some craftyness on my part, and great tankers eat some damage and usually get away leaving my team free from its wrath so we can set up a more complex trap for it.

the speed thing is a bit much, they are a tad too quick but not by a whole lot.

swarms are mostly anti-air / LAV now and that makes sence to me, a whoel squad carrying AV granades = dead tanks left and right, seriously you guys dont even know the power you hold over tanks right now, AV granades from a squad has some serious alpha damage especially when paired with a prox trap on its predicted escape route.


skill into plasma cannons as flavor of the month AV please, i bought some federation LP ones and i have to say they are VERY effective at discouraging shield tanks, and combined with AV nades you can seriously cripple a tank REALLY quickly. against armor tanks they arnt as great but swarms are still a GREAT choice for when you face a maddy.




i think AV players had it way too easy before, every time a tank hit the field it was christmas, a new loot pinata ripe to take a hard swing at to get at those sweet sweet warpoints. and because of that easy time they never had to develop any sort of stratagy to taking on a tank and its really starting to show.


those of us who remember before uprising when tanks were to be handeled with care, who came up with plans and learned HOW to take out a tank as infantry are still doing it now.

i realise that tanks are being spammed right now, and you have to understand that its because they actually work now, they FEEL good to use, and everyone wants to try them out.

i dont want this to be a "get good" style post, just try to understand that these new tanks arnt all powerful, they can be taken down sometimes quite easily, and mostly its all about the skill of the driver/AV infantry. so if tanks are really bothering you, set aside some time and dedicate yourself to a few games are pure infantry AV, use some LP to try out things beyond your SP, try things youve never tryed before, and try not to get discouraged if you fail.

THIS is your point... and its wrong... its baseless, its meaningless.

WHY is it a problem, when literally everything else thats similar (swapping to a different role mid battle to fill a need) is already delt with in the game and is considered "not a problem"

you stated your opinion, then failed to provide any meaningful substance that would back it up.

thats like me saying, Blackhole Nova is the best dropship pilot ever, then never telling you WHY so that you can understand why i believe thats true. then when someone asks me to explain why i just insult them and tell them they are arrogant for not just automatically believing the same thing instead of explaining why hes so awesome.

TL;DR
but I'm sure it was a very condescending and snarky post.

no, I can take out tanks too.... the anti tank spam in the forms is ironicly about anti tank spam.... we are sick of tank 514 already... its just not fun.

but it IS fun....

free WPs.... free WPs everywhere
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For a Demo who can carry a rifle to fend off slayers while he does his business yes . It's a bit trickier for hand held AV who have a lot more to worry about . The question is not can the AV take out the tank ... but whether it's actually profitable enough to bother doing so dedicatedly. ATM the answer is no ....which those who spent months skilling into it feel rather 5th wheeldish...

setp 1 grab assault suit

step 2 equip primary AV and your handy dandy SMG (wich rocks and is the primary weapon on that demo fit when im not using the breach MD)

Step 3 equip AV granades

step 4 swap fits between remotes and proxies after you set your minefield


step 5, collect your free WPs

/headdesk Did you not even understand what I just said ....