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![Vrain Matari Vrain Matari](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:14:00 -
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Why?
Because ISK will never be a balancer. Because when we connect with EVE there will be some obscenely rich merc corps out there with unimaginably wealthy EVE-based sugar daddies behind them.
These corps will be able to run at billion ISK losses per match and laugh it off, if they need to.
Because someday you will be in a fight against opponents where every single piece of gear on the other side is Proto or officer, including the vehicles.
One of the things tank-spam mode is trying to figure out is if the tools exist in DUST to deal with that. Right now i'm thinking AV is is under powered but we're not that far off a good balance point - for the hulls we have now. Spam-mode is measuring AV against the new punctuated-godmode tank model, and that's a good thing. But...
The biggest concern is that infantry doesn't have all it's AV tools yet(webifiers, etc) - i'm sure everybody can see that every one of those tools is going to be a game changer. Also, it's unrealistic to expect that CCP will be releasing those tools anytime soon. So what do other peeps think? Is the data we're collecting now going to have much value when Webifiers and EWAR comes along?
I support SP rollover.
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![DUST Fiend DUST Fiend](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:15:00 -
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These are just the base vehicles, wait till we get better ones
![Oops](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png)
Matchmaking helps to solve the problem you describe, not entirely flipping the balance of the game and handing everyone the keys to their own free tank.
Vids / O7
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![Vitharr Foebane Vitharr Foebane](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:20:00 -
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We also need shield crushing AV i.e. heavy lasers and heavy plasma weapons. Right now we are trying to balance Explosive and Rail tech against something they are simply not designed to kill. On a side note if anyone mentions the flux grenade as AV they will take a proto BFG round to the teeth ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
TBA IS NOT A NAME!
At least give the heavy laser a name so we know you MIGHT be working on it.
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![Cyrius Li-Moody Cyrius Li-Moody](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:23:00 -
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Webs would solve so many problems right now with infy AV v tank.
As much fun as it is to call in a MLT rail tank and kill other tanks. I really don't want to have to do that all the time. It's more fun in the david v goliath scenario.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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![BL4CKST4R BL4CKST4R](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
BL4CKST4R
warravens League of Infamy
1357
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:23:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Why?
Because ISK will never be a balancer. Because when we connect with EVE there will be some obscenely rich merc corps out there with unimaginably wealthy EVE-based sugar daddies behind them.
These corps will be able to run at billion ISK losses per match and laugh it off, if they need to.
Because someday you will be in a fight against opponents where every single piece of gear on the other side is Proto or officer, including the vehicles.
One of the things tank-spam mode is trying to figure out is if the tools exist in DUST to deal with that. Right now i'm thinking AV is is under powered but we're not that far off a good balance point - for the hulls we have now. Spam-mode is measuring AV against the new punctuated-godmode tank model, and that's a good thing. But...
The biggest concern is that infantry doesn't have all it's AV tools yet(webifiers, etc) - i'm sure everybody can see that every one of those tools is going to be a game changer. Also, it's unrealistic to expect that CCP will be releasing those tools anytime soon. So what do other peeps think? Is the data we're collecting now going to have much value when Webifiers and EWAR comes along?
AV needs to be powerful enough to make even a proto tank cry, and tanking should be cheap. |
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