DUST Search - at least give the losing faction some standing points

Acturus Galaxy wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

Again, says the Gallente who's probably won 3/4 of his battles. Go ahead and play some Amarr FW. You won't lose standings for Gallente, so it's cool. Try that for a few days and see how much you like the losing side getting nothing.

Take a look at how all the asshats awox all match in the roles they are selecting to lose the battle instead of yielding the most WP or however you put it. Have fun losing 150,000 ISK to get more kills and WP than the top 3 players on the other side and be given nothing in return.

I am actually planning to play a few amar FW matches, could use the special droplinks you have, not that little me will make that big a difference.

Not every Gallente match is a Victory, had four matches yesterday in a row with looses against the Caldari. I have started to run in cheap suits primarily, have SP capped but continue to play FW matches as I find them much more fun than pub matches. Even with 0 payout I would prefer FW matches over pub matches.

I promise to run allot of amar fw matches and will report back, might change my mind if every match is as bad as I hear on the forums.

The Gallente/Amar preference is not bad, the EVE sisters of eve faction is Gallente/Amar, for RP reasons I can support Amar as well as the Gallente.


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Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 299	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:15:00 - [1] - Quote I do not like the rewards based on WP in FW matches. It will end up like pub matches where everyone is trying to farm WP rather than winning the match. As it is now you will gain very little for loosing. If you join FW for passive LP farming you decrease the chance of your team winning and you will get next to nothing for spending 20-30 minuttes of your time. Now you have to parcicipate to secure that you get an LP payout even if it is in starter suits or BPO suits. Doing nothing decreases your own chance of getting any loyality points. Most FW matches I have been in has been close as it is obvious everyone is fighting to the end to win the match. Join a pub skirmish and redlining and pub stomping is the norm.
Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 299	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:29:00 - [2] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: I do not like the rewards based on WP in FW matches. It will end up like pub matches where everyone is trying to farm WP rather than winning the match. As it is now you will gain very little for loosing. If you join FW for passive LP farming you decrease the chance of your team winning and you will get next to nothing for spending 20-30 minuttes of your time. Now you have to parcicipate to secure that you get an LP payout even if it is in starter suits or BPO suits. Doing nothing decreases your own chance of getting any loyality points. Most FW matches I have been in has been close as it is obvious everyone is fighting to the end to win the match. Join a pub skirmish and redlining and pub stomping is the norm. The difference is that you keep the mechanic where the winning side gets dramatically better payouts. The only real change from the current system is that good players on the losing side still get something for actually trying. Don't want to make it purely WP based, then give something to the top 3 players on the board for the losing side instead. I understand that you wish to reward the members that might be spending the most isk trying to win the match. But you will also open up the option to WP farming instead of trying to win the match. I see FW matches as a team gamemode unlike pub commercial contracts. FW does not discreminate new players from old players, they get an equal share of LP and is expected to do their best within the limits of their SP. I hate pub matches for the rush to destroy every single installtion on the map for war points. I dislike pub matches for letting down players with a prefered role that provides little warpoints. Look at snipers, they are anoying, they get very little warpoints for their effort trying to help the team remotely. Tanks and logis get tons of war points. In FW everyone is selecting a role that improves the chance of winning the match and not a role that yeild the highest amount of warpoints. I like that there is this difference between pubs and FW matches.
Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 299	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:11:00 - [3] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Again, says the Gallente who's probably won 3/4 of his battles. Go ahead and play some Amarr FW. You won't lose standings for Gallente, so it's cool. Try that for a few days and see how much you like the losing side getting nothing. Take a look at how all the asshats awox all match in the roles they are selecting to lose the battle instead of yielding the most WP or however you put it. Have fun losing 150,000 ISK to get more kills and WP than the top 3 players on the other side and be given nothing in return. I am actually planning to play a few amar FW matches, could use the special droplinks you have, not that little me will make that big a difference. Not every Gallente match is a Victory, had four matches yesterday in a row with looses against the Caldari. I have started to run in cheap suits primarily, have SP capped but continue to play FW matches as I find them much more fun than pub matches. Even with 0 payout I would prefer FW matches over pub matches. I promise to run allot of amar fw matches and will report back, might change my mind if every match is as bad as I hear on the forums. The Gallente/Amar preference is not bad, the EVE sisters of eve faction is Gallente/Amar, for RP reasons I can support Amar as well as the Gallente.
Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 299	Posted - 2013.12.15 15:29:00 - [4] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Again, says the Gallente who's probably won 3/4 of his battles. Go ahead and play some Amarr FW. You won't lose standings for Gallente, so it's cool. Try that for a few days and see how much you like the losing side getting nothing. Take a look at how all the asshats awox all match in the roles they are selecting to lose the battle instead of yielding the most WP or however you put it. Have fun losing 150,000 ISK to get more kills and WP than the top 3 players on the other side and be given nothing in return. I am actually planning to play a few amar FW matches, could use the special droplinks you have, not that little me will make that big a difference. Not every Gallente match is a Victory, had four matches yesterday in a row with looses against the Caldari. I have started to run in cheap suits primarily, have SP capped but continue to play FW matches as I find them much more fun than pub matches. Even with 0 payout I would prefer FW matches over pub matches. I promise to run allot of amar fw matches and will report back, might change my mind if every match is as bad as I hear on the forums. The Gallente/Amar preference is not bad, the EVE sisters of eve faction is Gallente/Amar, for RP reasons I can support Amar as well as the Gallente. Allright 5 Amar FW matches played and 5 matches lost. All of them have been really close with just 1-5 bars left on the Minmartar MCC, so close. Very fun matches actually, I like the challenge and will continue a few more. I did notice a fair amount of Amar team members jumping ship as soon as the Minmartar got ahead, bloody hard to turn the match when the Amar is running away from the match. I did do my best getting 1 in two of the matches. Also, allot of Minmartar are using the Amar suits, seemed to be more frequent than on the amar side. They are a pain to fight with my scout shotgun, they are either amar heavies or minmartar logis. And I see the Amar have a real challenge here, that CR is insanly strong. I ghouthg the rail rifle used by the Caldari was bad, but that is no match to the assault CR. Wow my scout melts in under a second even at 50+ meters. Against most other rifles I can get 2 shots with my shotgun, but this rifle melts me in an instant. And with everyone on the Amar side giving up early the 3 proto Minimartar have it easy. Where are all the OP proto scrambler rifles and amar assault suits.