DUST Search - Just a bump for Heavies

Anmol Singh wrote:

NAV HIV wrote:

I am not a heavy, but i have friends and Corp members who are. With every patch there is alway some issues with heavies. Either the suit becomes useless or the weapon. With 1.7 released, heavies are close to useless unless they hide in some bunker. New FW mode is out. It's brilliant with all the LP points and reward system. But if i'm a Heavy and i wanna focus solely on my Race - Amarr... I would be left with a decent low cost suit. But what am i supposed to use as a weapon ?! Scrambler rifle?! Beats the purpose of being a heavy, doesn't it?! For a heavy, The suit is Amarr and the Weapon is Minmatar... So that's FW 101... Why is it that everyone else has an option to choose a decent weapon or has replacement for it and heavies don't?

I am caldari and i'm an AR user. With FW i can't go gallente, but i can still fo Amarr and Caldari for a replacement. But, a heavy can't do that.

So i hope CCP will do something for all the Heavy brothers/sisters out there. A new weapon may be ?!

It's not the heavy, it's the weapon. well actually its kind of the heavy. Heavies cannot survive more 2 counters with an enemy. Fix Heavy HP, Fix the Weapon and you have balance.

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NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 595	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:02:00 - [1] - Quote I am not a heavy, but i have friends and Corp members who are. With every patch there is alway some issues with heavies. Either the suit becomes useless or the weapon. With 1.7 released, heavies are close to useless unless they hide in some bunker. New FW mode is out. It's brilliant with all the LP points and reward system. But if i'm a Heavy and i wanna focus solely on my Race - Amarr... I would be left with a decent low cost suit. But what am i supposed to use as a weapon ?! Scrambler rifle?! Beats the purpose of being a heavy, doesn't it?! For a heavy, The suit is Amarr and the Weapon is Minmatar... So that's FW 101... Why is it that everyone else has an option to choose a decent weapon or has replacement for it and heavies don't? I am caldari and i'm an AR user. With FW i can't go gallente, but i can still fo Amarr and Caldari for a replacement. But, a heavy can't do that. So i hope CCP will do something for all the Heavy brothers/sisters out there. A new weapon may be ?!
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 488	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:06:00 - [2] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: I am not a heavy, but i have friends and Corp members who are. With every patch there is alway some issues with heavies. Either the suit becomes useless or the weapon. With 1.7 released, heavies are close to useless unless they hide in some bunker. New FW mode is out. It's brilliant with all the LP points and reward system. But if i'm a Heavy and i wanna focus solely on my Race - Amarr... I would be left with a decent low cost suit. But what am i supposed to use as a weapon ?! Scrambler rifle?! Beats the purpose of being a heavy, doesn't it?! For a heavy, The suit is Amarr and the Weapon is Minmatar... So that's FW 101... Why is it that everyone else has an option to choose a decent weapon or has replacement for it and heavies don't? I am caldari and i'm an AR user. With FW i can't go gallente, but i can still fo Amarr and Caldari for a replacement. But, a heavy can't do that. So i hope CCP will do something for all the Heavy brothers/sisters out there. A new weapon may be ?! It's not the heavy, it's the weapon. well actually its kind of the heavy. Heavies cannot survive more 2 counters with an enemy. Fix Heavy HP, Fix the Weapon and you have balance. *Sagaris lover!!!*
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 262	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:06:00 - [3] - Quote If the started by putting in base content like suits and weapons this wouldn't be a problem, of course if they can manage to griefquit the current heavies they can just remove the class entirely. It's fairly obvious they have bigger fish to fry.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 595	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:09:00 - [4] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: NAV HIV wrote: I am not a heavy, but i have friends and Corp members who are. With every patch there is alway some issues with heavies. Either the suit becomes useless or the weapon. With 1.7 released, heavies are close to useless unless they hide in some bunker. New FW mode is out. It's brilliant with all the LP points and reward system. But if i'm a Heavy and i wanna focus solely on my Race - Amarr... I would be left with a decent low cost suit. But what am i supposed to use as a weapon ?! Scrambler rifle?! Beats the purpose of being a heavy, doesn't it?! For a heavy, The suit is Amarr and the Weapon is Minmatar... So that's FW 101... Why is it that everyone else has an option to choose a decent weapon or has replacement for it and heavies don't? I am caldari and i'm an AR user. With FW i can't go gallente, but i can still fo Amarr and Caldari for a replacement. But, a heavy can't do that. So i hope CCP will do something for all the Heavy brothers/sisters out there. A new weapon may be ?! It's not the heavy, it's the weapon. well actually its kind of the heavy. Heavies cannot survive more 2 counters with an enemy. Fix Heavy HP, Fix the Weapon and you have balance. Yup. Half a clip from SCR or RR usually does the job. But that CR in CQC has become a heavy killing machine
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 322	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:09:00 - [5] - Quote First Was HMG, Then the FORGE with the time nerf. And when they finale decide to buff the HEAVY, the buff hp,no one except ar scrub Was asking for that. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 281	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:10:00 - [6] - Quote Thanks but most heavies are done like me I dealed with the bull crap long enough. I've been a hard core heavy hmg since closed beta and now since my race has a gun I use it till Caldari heavy and Caldari hmg are out. Until then I'm a ck.o assault with rail rifle We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1258	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:22:00 - [7] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: It's not the heavy, it's the weapon. well actually its kind of the heavy. Heavies cannot survive more 2 counters with an enemy. Fix Heavy HP, Fix the Weapon and you have balance. Heavy HP is totally and completely fine. I'd go as far as saying nothing whatsoever is needed to change the suits themselves. (Except, obviously, we need racial ones.) The HMG seems to have had a slight buff this build with the addition of weapon hit impulse, but yeah, I think with the confirmed "knife-fighting laser" effect it is still not working as advertised... And my fattie brethren, I'd encourage you to come to the Minmatar side. Boundless HMGs for 7k ISK. And we win. Between that and a bit of Gallente fighting for armor mods, I've got a near full-proto Templar Sentinel fit for 17k ISK... ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Tiberion Deci Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 200	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:27:00 - [8] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Thanks but most heavies are done like me I dealed with the bull crap long enough.-á Truth. I started playing a heavy in open beta. Then uprising came out and heavies have been eating ** ever since. I played for 3 weeks into uprising but the lack of choices for heavies as well as CCP's apparent lack of interest in giving us anything, be it a suit, weapon, equipment, anything drove me to apathy and quitting. Every time a new build comes out (granted there haven't been that many so far) I get excited because I think they're finally going to add some of the sweet heavy suits I saw concepts for back at fanfest. But no. Not this time. Just more assault rifle-type weapons. More choices for literally for everyone else. When they finally give heavies something other than ** we have had since closed beta I'll consider plugging my PS3 back in and giving it a whirl.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 595	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote I really hope they can make it better for them
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8681	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:40:00 - [10] - Quote There's no point to playing HMG heavy when almost EVERYTHING out ranges you Vids / O7

Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 496	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:45:00 - [11] - Quote Double their HP, personally i doubt id try to one Vs one a heavy if he had twice the HP he does now. Even if the weapons stayed the same. The TTK a heave is FAR to low, either High DPS/ Short TTK or Low DPS/ High TTK. I personally prefer the latter but there we are.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 596	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:47:00 - [12] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Double their HP, personally i doubt id try to one Vs one a heavy if he had twice the HP he does now. Even if the weapons stayed the same. The TTK a heave is FAR to low, either High DPS/ Short TTK or Low DPS/ High TTK. I personally prefer the latter but there we are. Yup i still remember the time when heavies were slow, but to kill one was a team effort
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1259	Posted - 2013.12.12 15:53:00 - [13] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Double their HP, personally i doubt id try to one Vs one a heavy if he had twice the HP he does now. Even if the weapons stayed the same. The TTK a heave is FAR to low, either High DPS/ Short TTK or Low DPS/ High TTK. I personally prefer the latter but there we are. That really won't solve anything. Buffing Heavy suit HP just encourages non-heavy players to skill into the suit as HP padding for their light weapon of choice. Heavy weapons are what truly needs attention for the suit to have balance. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 105	Posted - 2013.12.12 16:31:00 - [14] - Quote I support using something besides a Light Riffle on a heavy suite. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 600	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:51:00 - [15] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: I support using something besides a Light Riffle on a heavy suite. Yup Sentinels + Duvolles, Then Sentinels + SCR and Now Sentinels + RR
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 794	Posted - 2013.12.13 13:58:00 - [16] - Quote yeah im a dedicated heavy but even i can't survive this new wave of weapons, my HMG is pretty much near obsolete with the exception of close CQC battle which can still be outmatched by the CR. so what else can i do but skill into one of the new weapons in order to survive. its not like i have a lot of SP to skill into a new suit (since i spent over 10mil SP into the heavy + heavy weapons) so i have no choice but to use what remaining SP i have to skill into one of the new guns in order to survive YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Tiberion Deci Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 200	Posted - 2013.12.13 22:55:00 - [17] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Thanks but most heavies are done like me I dealed with the bull crap long enough.-á Truth. I started playing a heavy in open beta. Then uprising came out and heavies have been eating ** ever since. I played for 3 weeks into uprising but the lack of choices for heavies as well as CCP's apparent lack of interest in giving us anything, be it a suit, weapon, equipment, anything drove me to apathy and quitting. Every time a new build comes out (granted there haven't been that many so far) I get excited because I think they're finally going to add some of the sweet heavy suits I saw concepts for back at fanfest. But no. Not this time. Just more assault rifle-type weapons. More choices for literally for everyone else. When they finally give heavies something other than ** we have had since closed beta I'll consider plugging my PS3 back in and giving it a whirl.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 112	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:31:00 - [18] - Quote At least with the forge we had a half chance of surviving encounters.. but now thereduced the splash to that of a side arm and made the ROF so crappy.. Everything can mow us down before we have even a fighting chance. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.


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