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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:29:00 -
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Hey there, I m really liking the fw system and The fact that it looks like a war.
I would like to know how the war is going, who is winning and where.
Can you explain to me where and how to look to understand this war? According to the in game map minmatar and amarr are completely destroying the other faction, is this correct? |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
168
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:34:00 -
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Factional warfare is a very complex thing. It allows eve players to join militias to fight against other empires (amarr + caldari vs minmatar + gallente) and rewards them for their loyalty with fancy modules, special ships and more.
Our part in FW is that we help make systems easier to capture... and unfortunately most of what we do is prettymuch a gigantic stalemate. The battle on the ground doesn't mean crap compared to the battles in space. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:35:00 -
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1. Go to your NeoCom
2. Select the upmost tab in your NeoCom
3. Go to Starmap
4. From there press R2 to show Factional Warfare
5. See how Gallente and Minmatar are dominating everything.
The situation is a little more complex in EVE side though, can't help you with that.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:40:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:See how Gallente and Minmatar are dominating everything.
As it rightfully should be.
Long live the Federation!
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
168
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:41:00 -
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Thx for your help, other questions: how big is our impact on the EVE war between the races, also: according to The neocom here in dust minmatar and gallente are winning; is it just due to dust battles or It belongs to eve battles? If it is the first, Wich impact does It have for the EVE players that this 2 factions are dominating? |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:59:00 -
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The fact that Gallente and Minmatar are always at 100% control or close is an issue that should be solved. There isn't any way for the other factions to regain ground, apart from everyone jumping ship and start playing for those factions but the issue is that if people do that then it would only make the other faction control 100% which was what happened when CCP offered prizes for playing FW and Caldari/Amarr had stuff that most people wanted.
So, the fact is that FW matchmaking in Dust has a fundamental flaw since by design it'll always make a faction reach 100% or close and stay there forever unless a drastic shift in numbers happens.
EDIT: Personally, because i fight for Gallente/Minmatar it's a bit of a trouble sometimes because Scotty has been giving matchmaking errors rather frequently, not finding any matches. That's because it's designed to find enemy districts and attack them and most of the time there's no enemy districts to attack. I just wish Scotty would issue defend battles since there's so many districts of my own factions.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
720
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:00:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Thx for your help, other questions: how big is our impact on the EVE war between the races, also: according to The neocom here in dust minmatar and gallente are winning; is it just due to dust battles or It belongs to eve battles? If it is the first, Wich impact does It have for the EVE players that this 2 factions are dominating?
Faction Warfare in DUST and EVE are different, with EVE in the more primary role. In EVE, pilots fight for control over complexes, which in turn affect the amount of control a certain side has for the system. With DUST control over the planets within system affect how fast or slow you can capture these complexes. I'll give an example.
In the Intaki system, Caldari and Gallente militias are fighting for control in space. In the same time, there are battles raging on the temperate planet Intaki V by militia DUST mercenaries over the control of districts. The ground battles end up with Caldari being victorious, leaving all the districts in Intaki V in Caldari control. What then happens is that these districts modify the capture rate in space by a certain percent for a certain side. In this case, Caldari gain a 10% boost because the districts in Intaki V are in Caldari control. This means that Caldari can capture complexes 10% faster than usual, which then helps them gain control over the system faster. At the moment, DUST battles primarily affect EVE battles and not the other way around if we don't count orbital support.
I don't know that much about the DUST-EVE interaction mechanics in FW, but that is how far I understand the thing works. I think I'll look up more information on it later and link you an article for better information.
But the repercussions of having two sides completely dominating the districts DUST side, this case Minmatar and Gallente, means that Caldari and Amarr are going to have a lot more harder time conquering systems in EVE, while Minmatar and Gallente can do it easier.
Kasote Denzara wrote:As it rightfully should be.
Long live the Federation! I couldn't care less about the Empyrean War for a myriad of reasons, I'm here just to state the facts about its mechanics to my understanding.
Yagihige wrote:The fact that Gallente and Minmatar are always at 100% control or close is an issue that should be solved. There isn't any way for the other factions to regain ground, apart from everyone jumping ship and start playing for those factions but the issue is that if people do that then it would only make the other faction control 100% which was what happened when CCP offered prizes for playing FW and Caldari/Amarr had stuff that most people wanted.
So, the fact is that FW matchmaking in Dust has a fundamental flaw since by design it'll always make a faction reach 100% or close and stay there forever unless a drastic shift in numbers happens.
That is correct, it is really hard to have even battles anymore with the current matchmaking system because all the FW support is stacked on one or two sides.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
720
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:01:00 -
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Double post
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Kaughst
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
164
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:04:00 -
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At the moment Caldari have still held most of all the systems regardless of the districts owned by the Gallente.
Step 1: Take Districts
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit
Cow for Kaughst
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