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Ulysses Knapse duna corp 710	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:26:00 - [1] - Quote I think we should standardize Assault Rifles. What do I mean, you ask? Simply put, the Assault Rifles should follow a set of standards that enforce the balance between them. ARs would have five main variances between the different factions. For simplicity's sake, I'll label them as: Damage, Range, Tracking, Heat, and Ammo. "Damage" is how much DPS the AR can put out optimally. "Range" is how far out the AR can hit. "Tracking" is how quickly the AR can aim effectively. "Heat" is how much heat a weapon can absorb before having to cool down. "Ammo" is how much ammo a weapon's magazine can hold. By balancing the scales using these five values, it's possible to make all of the ARs perform differently without making one inherently better than another. Tracking is a little complicated compared to the others. A summary can be found by clicking here. PLASMA RIFLE (Gallente) The Gallente Assault Rifle is a high-damage, high-tracking automatic rifle designed for close-quarters combat. It has the lowest range, but highest damage and tracking, of all the assault rifles. It is less hindered by heat than the Pulse Rifle, and less hindered by ammo than the Combat Rifle. It's effective against both shields and armor. COMBAT RIFLE (Minmatar) The Minmatar Assault Rifle is a highly versatile automatic rifle good for close-to-mid range combat. It has lower DPS than the Plasma Rifle, but it has better range and near equal tracking. It's also less vulnerable to heat than all the other assault rifles, but has problems with clip size. It's more effective against armor than shields. PULSE RIFLE (Amarr) The Amarr Assault Rifle is a highly versatile automatic rifle good for mid-to-long range combat. Its DPS is similar to the Combat Rifle, but it has better range and poorer tracking. It has almost no problems with ammo, but produces more heat than other assault rifles. It's more effective against shields than armor. RAIL RIFLE (Caldari) The Caldari Assault Rifle is a long-range automatic rifle designed for use at longer ranges. It has the highest range, but lowest tracking and damage potential, of all the assault rifles. It is less hindered by heat than the Pulse Rifle, and less hindered by ammo than the Combat Rifle. It's effective against both shields and armor. TACTICAL VARIANTs The single-shot rifle variant. Greater range, but poor continuous fire (more heat and ammo problems). BREACH VARIANTs Has better tracking, but less range and better continuous fire capability. For close-quarters combat. BURST VARIANTs The burst-fire rifle variant. Good damage and tracking, but poor continuous fire capability. I think these are some good guidelines to make all the types balanced without making them the same. Additionally, it would be quite fun to see how people used them. Tactical Rail Rifles for harassing infantry at long ranges, or Breach Plasma Rifles for storming enemy buildings? Perhaps a Tactical Plasma Rifle, for mid-range marksmanship, or a Burst Combat Rifle for the ultimate guerrilla warfare... Before anyone complains about how this idea would "make the assault rifles generic", I would like to point out that they're already generic. The only ones that are unique from the rest are the Rail Rifles and the (Tactical) Scrambler Rifle. The Rail Rifles just slap on a cheap charge limit that barely does anything, and the Scrambler Rifle's charged shot capability could be moved to a weapon that's more than just an assault rifle. Humanity is the personification of change.
AR Scrub Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:41:00 - [2] - Quote yay buff my ars more plz
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1264	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:30:00 - [3] - Quote Yup seems legit "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
abarkrishna WarRavens 174	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:04:00 - [4] - Quote The problem is unbalanced DPS. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 712	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:07:00 - [5] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: The problem is unbalanced DPS. Isn't it always? Humanity is the personification of change.
Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 37	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:23:00 - [6] - Quote +1.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 273	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote The amarr assault rifle is the scrambler rifle No opinion on other stuff "May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 720	Posted - 2013.12.12 23:57:00 - [8] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: The amarr assault rifle is the scrambler rifle And the Gallente Assault Rifle is the Assault Rifle. Is there something you're trying to say here? Humanity is the personification of change.
Dunce Masterson Savage Bullet 2	Posted - 2013.12.13 00:40:00 - [9] - Quote the only real rifle in the game in the minmatar combat rifle all the others are just assault weapons the gallente specialize in blaster tech so assault blaster would be more accurate the minmatar specialize in projectile weapons that use rifling in the barrel to add spin to the projectile to give it better accuracy so there for they are assault rifle the amarr specialize in laser weapons and like the caldari have 2 different light weapons in the game the first to come out being the beam laser and the second being the pulse laser the gallente specialize in rail tech their first weapon was the sniper rail gun and the recent one is a assault rail gun also removing the charge from the scrambler rifle would be to drastic if the heat build up was not reduced by 75% or so or the damage was greatly increased while clip size is decreased to 20 shots or so. where would you move the charge feature to the beam laser? let the player fill the weapons capacitor and unleash a beam at maximum damage for about 2-3 seconds? i think its actually better this way that the first weapon in every faction is the best at what it does with a second variant being weaker then the other factions first. you are right about the ranges tho.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 817	Posted - 2013.12.20 05:21:00 - [10] - Quote Dunce Masterson wrote: clip Does it really matter? Rifle just sounds better. Dunce Masterson wrote: i think its actually better this way that the first weapon in every faction is the best at what it does with a second variant being weaker then the other factions first. That's bad for balance, you know. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.

Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 913	Posted - 2013.12.29 05:55:00 - [11] - Quote Bump. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1094	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote Tap. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1634	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:38:00 - [13] - Quote I agree with everything but 1 thing. Breach is long range not short range. Armor and Shields are not the same!
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 90	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:59:00 - [14] - Quote These sound good. If each variant remains just that, a variant. The assault Rail Rifle should retain lower RoF than the base Blaster Rifle, but retain a greater Optimal Range. This way there would be sufficient reason to use a Breach AR vs. a base RR. I would also request an addition to the OP to mention scaling for these weapons. The Assault Rifle (now) has the least growth between STD, ADV, and PRO tiers. This isn't an issue (for now) because the TTK is so low that its hard to notice that the current RR has more DPS power than the Assault Rifle. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1096	Posted - 2014.01.21 15:06:00 - [15] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: I agree with everything but 1 thing. Breach is long range not short range. Be quiet. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.


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