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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4604
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:06:00 -
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CCP: "Hey! Let's make a rifle that has the most range, very high alpha, and still give it the same DPS as the CQC weapons!"
CCP 2: "Wouldn't that be OP?"
CCP: "Nah, we'll add a delay that is shorter than the human reaction time, that should be enough to balance it!"
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
748
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:08:00 -
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CCP: "And make it so that the heavies gets pawned left and right because screw the heavies"
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
975
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP: "Hey! Let's make a rifle that has the most range, very high alpha, and still give it the same DPS as the CQC weapons!" CCP 2: "Wouldn't that be OP?" CCP: "Nah, we'll add a delay that is shorter than the human reaction time, that should be enough to balance it!" CCP: "Oooh!!! And let's give it EXTREMELY TIGHT hipfire!" CCP 2: "That's it, I quit"
rr has a delay ? i hadnt noticed |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
869
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:11:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP: "Hey! Let's make a rifle that has the most range, very high alpha, and still give it the same DPS as the CQC weapons!" CCP 2: "Wouldn't that be OP?" CCP: "Nah, we'll add a delay that is shorter than the human reaction time, that should be enough to balance it!" CCP: "Oooh!!! And let's give it EXTREMELY TIGHT hipfire!" CCP 2: "That's it, I quit" rr has a delay ? i hadnt noticed
Its masked by the low framerate and input lag.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2560
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:16:00 -
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CCP 3: Umm . . . guys, what about that laser thingy???
. . . . . . guys?
No.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4607
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:17:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:CCP 3: Umm . . . guys, what about that laser thingy???
. . . . . . guys?
CCP 4: "Oh yeah, it can actually kill people from time to time. We should probably nerf it"
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
251
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:18:00 -
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Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
251
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:19:00 -
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Cat Merc you complain about op weapons when I see you running around one shooting guys with scrambler rifles
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4607
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:19:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies
Old Breach AR would like to have a word with you.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2563
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:20:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies
5/10 troll attempt.
No.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4607
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:20:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Cat Merc you complain about op weapons when I see you running around one shooting guys with scrambler rifles
I did it because the AR bored me.
So I switched up.
I'm now into Combat Rifles, and next up probably tanks.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
832
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Old Breach AR would like to have a word with you.
agree. the new rail rifle is like the old pre nerf breach with more range and a slight kick which is easily managed. that hip fire accuracy is boss.
Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies
since when is lack of spread a bad think? I guess in the world of low skill a high spread is a blessing to actually hit atleast a little bit and helpful when going full auto spray and pray mode  aiming is not hard in this game, movement speed is not that high, bunny hopping is very limited and aim assist does the rest. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4121
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:34:00 -
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RR has a delay that feels like the input lag we used to get a lot, only it's consistent and reliable, and there's no longer input delay on the other weapons.
Also, there's a faint whirring noise as it charges up ready to fire, which I actually quite like.
That delay actually works well for weakening the weapon in twitch reaction scenarios, like fighting other Rifle models in CQC, or going up against a surprise Shotgun attack. You know, all those things that CQC is actually made of (unless you're a Heavy)? Yeah, Rail Rifles suck at them. Heavies got shafted, but there's actually enough of a delay to be noticeable in the moments where instant reactions are required.
If the TTK gets toned down, then maybe they'll need to bump the duration of the RR delay up, but not by too much. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
315
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:41:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies
In that case you are wrong for some strange reason I find even the RR more suitable in CQC and due to the extreme rof the ACR is way better.
The GAR is by a good measure the weakest AR out now and this without beeing nerfed |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
96
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:47:00 -
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If used as intended from range its nice seeing an ar user trying to take on a proto rr at its optimum range lol
The best part of waking up,
is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
657
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:51:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies In that case you are wrong for some strange reason I find even the RR more suitable in CQC and due to the extreme rof the ACR is way better. The GAR is by a good measure the weakest AR out now and this without beeing nerfed
Very true, I felt completely outclassed last night, I still have a lot of fits with a GEK and it was just so.... Ordinary!
I'm loving the CR, myself, a burst TAR is awesome. I skilled into that first, will have to try the RR next.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
253
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:53:00 -
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All this cod guys on here if you think dispersion is not good and have a gun like a laser rifle try out the hmg then come back to me. The RR is good but not to good it has a charge up time which with other weapons you could have let out to burst by the time you fire it. It works well as a hit and run rifle not stay and dog it out. Blaster rifle has 18 more rounds no charge and murders it in cqc without a doubt also it has a higher dispersion rate (which is barely noticeable) along with a higher rof. The weapons are fine stop complaining
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1218
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:00:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Cat Merc you complain about op weapons when I see you running around one shooting guys with scrambler rifles
It's only OP when it kills him. |
RAMB0
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:02:00 -
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Weapons are fine |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
256
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:02:00 -
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It does damage to armor they all have armor suits sooooo
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Asirius Medaius
745
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:CCP 3: Umm . . . guys, what about that laser thingy???
. . . . . . guys? CCP 1: "Oh yeah, it can actually kill people from time to time. We should probably nerf it"
CCP 4: "You know guys... if we nerf the Laser Rifle, for some reason, the HMG should too. That just seems right.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:39:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Cat Merc you complain about op weapons when I see you running around one shooting guys with scrambler rifles
LOL nice one |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
2015
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Really guy. All four rifles are mostly balanced on my opinion. The blaster rifle is by far the best up close (cqc) RR not so much because of the tight spread you have to be dead on up close when a target is strafing and jumping which takes skill. The RR has a low RoF and a low magazine. It also has a charge up. Stop complaining about weapons being op because they aren't your just bad and also ttkl isn't long either. Only to classes can complain scouts and heavies Old Breach AR would like to have a word with you.
Old breach needs to come back, lower range is ok, tac and burst need to go.
back when remote mines didn't have a delay. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
584
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP: "Hey! Let's make a rifle that has the most range, very high alpha, and still give it the same DPS as the CQC weapons!" CCP 2: "Wouldn't that be OP?" CCP: "Nah, we'll add a delay that is shorter than the human reaction time, that should be enough to balance it!" CCP: "Oooh!!! And let's give it EXTREMELY TIGHT hipfire!" CCP 2: "That's it, I quit"
Just an FYI..
Duvolle still is deadly. Specially with that slight tweaking. No one is crying nerf Duvolle yet since everyone was busy shooting CR or RR (I'm Fully specced into it)
Imperial/Viziam SCR is still a two shot kill. 3-4 shots for a heavy. Best gun, effortless (Fully Specced)
Combat rifle is a CQC weapon. Assault Combat has a little bit more damage than submachine gun. So it depends on who is willing to take the risk to jump in the middle of 3-4 red dots (halfway there)
Rail Rifle = Please Aim and shoot. Not just spray and pray. Finally a gun worth using. It would be even better if CCP takes off Aim Assist completely. (Fully Specced)
Tanks = Gone in 60 seconds
Swarms = Finally, truly Shooting Rainbows (Fully Specced)
AV nades = Dafuq is that ?! (Fully Specced)
MD = Can't use it on FW since Blue dots won't learn fast enough and will end up causing you LP points
Friendly Fire = blue berries jumping on your line of Fire or trying to aim at the Red but hitting you instead. (CCP please make FW atleast a 5 mil SP requirement or pls make the penalties a bit more severe for small arms fire)
So... What else do you think is OP ?! |
Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
64
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:08:00 -
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Someone knows of their secrets! |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1516
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Cat Merc you complain about op weapons when I see you running around one shooting guys with scrambler rifles I did it because the AR bored me. So I switched up. I'm now into Combat Rifles, and next up probably tanks.
Tanks are really fun now. And before you say "duh, you just murder infantry with it" I actaully spend most of my time fighting enemy tanks
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1460
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:19:00 -
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you guys don't notice the RR delay?
seriously?
that **** drove me crazy. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
316
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:26:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:you guys don't notice the RR delay?
seriously?
that **** drove me crazy.
No not really at least until I watched for it at first I thought CCP forget to put the delay in. But honestly the delay is 0.25secs thats pretty close or less than the average human reaction its not really an issue... |
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