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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
757
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:16:00 -
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I will not be able to play until Sunday, but I'm not even sure I want to play after reading all these threads. Tanks, CRs, RRs, etc.: everyone seems to be shouting OP at everything.
Will my full support MD Logi have a place on the battlefield? What about my HMG Heavy? Hell, I know I won't be using my new Scout fitting anytime soon.
These threads are scaring me. If battles are now taking place further away from each other and if tanks are racing across the maps with god-like speed and durability, where does that leave infantry area denial and CQC specialists? If anything, I may just end up playing my Breach Forge Heavy, but with its recent nerf, will I even be able to contend with Somas? |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
106
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:20:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I will not be able to play until Sunday, but I'm not even sure I want to play after reading all these threads. Tanks, CRs, RRs, etc.: everyone seems to be shouting OP at everything.
Will my full support MD Logi have a place on the battlefield? What about my HMG Heavy? Hell, I know I won't be using my new Scout fitting anytime soon.
These threads are scaring me. If battles are now taking place further away from each other and if tanks are racing across the maps with god-like speed and durability, where does that leave infantry area denial and CQC specialists? If anything, I may just end up playing my Breach Forge Heavy, but with its recent nerf, will I even be able to contend with Somas?
If you main as infantry, just play on maps that keep tank-spamming to a minimum. If you play on an open and accessable map, you will be pissed. Your breach heavy will not do much to tanks unless there are like 3 of you, and then it will just run away and come back in 30 seconds all better.
Crs, RRs, and FW have been great additions I suggest you try out.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1274
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:20:00 -
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If you can't kill a HAV in 1.7 with a Breach Forge Gun, then the FG was never meant for you. They're laughably easy to kill.
People are crying "OP this! OP that!" because it keeps killing them and they can't handle it. The stupidly (though hilarious) speed that HAVs are getting is from a bugged module (from what I've heard) that was supposed to give 10% speed boost but is doing 100% instead.
The CR is a monster in close combat. The HMG stands a very little chance against it (though I have killed plenty of them so far with it). The RR is doing what the Plasma Rifle has been doing, except it is an armor killer.
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
20
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:21:00 -
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FW matches are feeling better than PC....but it is getting heated in here.
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:21:00 -
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I wouldn't worry, some of us are not even able to finish a match "A FATAL error has occurred..." |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:26:00 -
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I've changed very little how i play and i'm doing just fine.
em ta kool t'nod
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
748
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:27:00 -
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us remaining heavies might have to hang up our HMG and take a different weapon. if CR is already dominating in CQC then whats the point in having the HMG? and CR shoots further and more accurately too.
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
757
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:28:00 -
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I see. I hope that the rest of the forum is just blowing things out of proportion again. |
dust badger
SOUND Mercs
Of Sound Mind
337
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:28:00 -
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im fully spec'd in to amarr assault with the SCR and since the patch ive been using a free caldari suit with standard RR with the skill at lvl 1 and been having so much fun.
Granted tanks are more common now which i think is a good thing, just need to find a way to combat them, might have to look in to the plasma canon |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
107
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:30:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:If you can't kill a HAV in 1.7 with a Breach Forge Gun, then the FG was never meant for you. They're laughably easy to kill.
People are crying "OP this! OP that!" because it keeps killing them and they can't handle it. The stupidly (though hilarious) speed that HAVs are getting is from a bugged module (from what I've heard) that was supposed to give 10% speed boost but is doing 100% instead.
The CR is a monster in close combat. The HMG stands a very little chance against it (though I have killed plenty of them so far with it). The RR is doing what the Plasma Rifle has been doing, except it is an armor killer.
So, tanker alt.
Remember how hard it was to blow up LLAVs before? Imagine that but that LLAV is now a tank (speed wise too), oh and your forge does 30% less DPS. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2142
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:33:00 -
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Subjective experiences. Not all are the same.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
757
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:36:00 -
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So, what is the general consensus; is 1.7 worth trying out for a player that has no SP invested into vehicles and who is also adamant about not switching over to the newly released rifles? |
Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
20
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:39:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:So, what is the general consensus; is 1.7 worth trying out for a player that has no SP invested into vehicles and who is also adamant about not switching over to the newly released rifles?
That's how I roll...I'm just trying to figure the best way to deal with HAVs now.
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:44:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:So, what is the general consensus; is 1.7 worth trying out for a player that has no SP invested into vehicles and who is also adamant about not switching over to the newly released rifles?
I only briefly played around with the stock Rail and Combat Rifles. My GEK-38 still performs better in my hands and i'm not noticing much difficulties in going up against enemies wit h the new rifles.
em ta kool t'nod
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1274
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:46:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:So, tanker alt.
Remember how hard it was to blow up LLAVs before? Imagine that but that LLAV is now a tank (speed wise too), oh and your forge does 30% less DPS.
You think I'm a HAV driver? Hahaha. That's hilarious. I haven't done that since open beta. I'm one of the FGers using the Wiyrkomi Breach Forge Gun and STILL popping tanks. All you have to do is wait for the hardeners to drop and it's easy. It's so easy that it's laughable (to me). Those of us that FG'd throughout Uprising and those that are older aren't complaining about the vehicles. Personally, I think this about them.
Anyone with a brain can kill the 1.7 vehicles. All of them. You can no longer crutch with the SLs. As a FGer, even I recognize them as such. I haven't had the pleasure of using the AV grenades, seeing as I'm smart enough not to give the fender of a HAV a rub down.
I think I'll join the Scouts and their shenanigans with R/Es. I heard they're sticky now. 
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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castba
Penguin's March
244
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:49:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:So, what is the general consensus; is 1.7 worth trying out for a player that has no SP invested into vehicles and who is also adamant about not switching over to the newly released rifles?
Yes. Hmg seemed completely overwhelmed last night. Will see how we go tonight.
I Support SP Rollover
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
824
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:03:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:So, what is the general consensus; is 1.7 worth trying out for a player that has no SP invested into vehicles and who is also adamant about not switching over to the newly released rifles?
MD's are still as effective as they used to be, and you might want to think about running an RE logi from time to time now that RE's stick to walls and vehicles (toss some on a vehicle, then when their armor hardner ends set them off lol). The effectiveness of old weaponry hasn't changes on the infantry side, it's just that now you'll have to adapt to new ways people have to play the game. There's now a GOOD burst that damages armor like an SMG does, and there's now a breach that has a scope, super high damage, a decent ROF and does really well vs both shield and armor.
TL;DR: Just pretend that the Gallente burst rifle and the breach rifle got huge buffs and stay away from vehicle accessible areas and you'll be fine.
MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!
MATARI PRIDE!!
FIX TTK!!
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1343
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:17:00 -
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I don't know about your suits but my GaLogi can't survive much now, I run 2 comp. shield ext. and 4 enh. plates and as soon as I get near an enemy if I don't hug corners I am dead instantly. |
T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES
52
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:23:00 -
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FOOL!! Get on there, buy a Soma, fit it out however and go try to get yourself killed. Will be the most fun you've had in dust in a long time. then try out the new rifles. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
1230
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:32:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I will not be able to play until Sunday, but I'm not even sure I want to play after reading all these threads. Tanks, CRs, RRs, etc.: everyone seems to be shouting OP at everything.
Will my full support MD Logi have a place on the battlefield? What about my HMG Heavy? Hell, I know I won't be using my new Scout fitting anytime soon.
These threads are scaring me. If battles are now taking place further away from each other and if tanks are racing across the maps with god-like speed and durability, where does that leave infantry area denial and CQC specialists? If anything, I may just end up playing my Breach Forge Heavy, but with its recent nerf, will I even be able to contend with Somas?
TTK is already too low. There is no diversity in module fittings aside from brick tanking. Already bothered by these aspects, I feel as if I do not want to be let down even more.
GET A GRIP SOLDIER
I mean come on. They're forums. Every patch day people panic and post stupid stuff. Just grab a controller, log in, and play. If you hate it, turn if off and go play other games that make you happy. But I mean come on - don't give the trolls the credibilty they seek by actually letting them affect your willingness to just try. |
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
585
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:06:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I will not be able to play until Sunday, but I'm not even sure I want to play after reading all these threads. Tanks, CRs, RRs, etc.: everyone seems to be shouting OP at everything.
Will my full support MD Logi have a place on the battlefield? What about my HMG Heavy? Hell, I know I won't be using my new Scout fitting anytime soon.
These threads are scaring me. If battles are now taking place further away from each other and if tanks are racing across the maps with god-like speed and durability, where does that leave infantry area denial and CQC specialists? If anything, I may just end up playing my Breach Forge Heavy, but with its recent nerf, will I even be able to contend with Somas?
TTK is already too low. There is no diversity in module fittings aside from brick tanking. Already bothered by these aspects, I feel as if I do not want to be let down even more.
Don't use the MD in a FW, you'll get banned very quickly. HMG i have only seen one guy last night, but he was trying to run and gun in an open field with a HMG against all the rifles. So can't judge the HMG yet. SCR is still the best weapon to use. Specially that Viziam (Imperial)... Armor tanking is the way to go. Forges have a better chance against tanks. Swarms shoot rainbows and AVs feel like marshmallows |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2187
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:20:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:GET A GRIP SOLDIER
I mean come on. They're forums. Every patch day people panic and post stupid stuff. Just grab a controller, log in, and play. If you hate it, turn if off and go play other games that make you happy. But I mean come on - don't give the trolls the credibility they seek by actually letting them affect your willingness to just try.
I'm with Hans. The majority that are crying are due to their favorite style shifting in power a bit. The balance has shifted a little now that there are two new rifles that are good against armor at range. I didn't change my tactics and I did just fine yesterday. I run Minmatar Logistics and generally do point defense but sometimes switch to infiltration for uplinks and hacking. There are a few bugs, such as super fast HAVs and overly sensitive friendly fire issues.
Use cover. Be careful when crossing open spaces. Use that repair tool!
// Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1349
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Posted - 2013.12.11 21:40:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I will not be able to play until Sunday, but I'm not even sure I want to play after reading all these threads. Tanks, CRs, RRs, etc.: everyone seems to be shouting OP at everything.
Will my full support MD Logi have a place on the battlefield? What about my HMG Heavy? Hell, I know I won't be using my new Scout fitting anytime soon.
These threads are scaring me. If battles are now taking place further away from each other and if tanks are racing across the maps with god-like speed and durability, where does that leave infantry area denial and CQC specialists? If anything, I may just end up playing my Breach Forge Heavy, but with its recent nerf, will I even be able to contend with Somas?
TTK is already too low. There is no diversity in module fittings aside from brick tanking. Already bothered by these aspects, I feel as if I do not want to be let down even more.
I've been playing - it's fine. Prolly the biggest difference is not changes to the game but that a lot of old names are back, so the level of competition has ticked up a couple of notches. Haven't soloed any tanks, but have been part of 3-4 maddy terminations.
My toxin SMG(level 3) advanced Scout is still killing peeps, so i wouldn't worry about all the OPness floating around.
And matches have been fun.
I support SP rollover.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1690
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Posted - 2013.12.11 21:45:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:If you can't kill a HAV in 1.7 with a Breach Forge Gun, then the FG was never meant for you. They're laughably easy to kill.
I guess I'm just terrible for not being able to get my second (Kill shot) off in the next half dozen seconds it takes to charge before they zoom away at Mach 1 
When the bugged Nitro is fixed then sure I can see Breach forges being more useful against intelligent tankers.
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