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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:11:00 -
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Had three of them set on a hostile CRU just now, hit the button - boom. Merc quarters, -450 standings (all that I've gotten today) and a 24 hour ban.
Can I have this reversed please?
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:50:00 -
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We have not been able to reproduce this internally. We captured a CRU and then with someone on the other team placed 1 remote explosive and detonated it. Nothing happened. We did it several more times nothing happening. Finally we tried with 3 at once and still nothing.
Any chance you can give us more information on how this happened?
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
993
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:01:00 -
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sure you didnt kill something friendly and the 3 remotes just stacked damage and created overkill damage.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
4058
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:08:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:We have not been able to reproduce this internally. We captured a CRU and then with someone on the other team placed 1 remote explosive and detonated it. Nothing happened. We did it several more times nothing happening. Finally we tried with 3 at once and still nothing.
Any chance you can give us more information on how this happened?
Gallente Communications outpost, I was on the roof over objective Bravo. Threw a few REs down ontop of the CRU nearby that objective/building so they landed on the top - set them off and instantly teleported to my quarters with a banned notification.
I hadn't killed anyone previously, so even if someone was too close (I didn't see anyone, was staring at it the whole time) I shouldn't have been kicked
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:17:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button???
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button???
It should ignore damage to friendly installations as well. Will try putting the REs on top of the CRU.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
4058
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:26:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button??? It should ignore damage to friendly installations as well. Will try putting the REs on top of the CRU. \
Ah... Well... Can you see if there was any friendly fire during that match? Maybe somebody lemminged themselves into the explosion or something and I just didn't catch it?
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:27:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button??? It should ignore damage to friendly installations as well. Will try putting the REs on top of the CRU. \ Ah... Well... Can you see if there was any friendly fire during that match? Maybe somebody lemminged themselves into the explosion or something and I just didn't catch it?
Yea, we are looking into it. I assume it was on this character?
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
4058
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:31:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button??? It should ignore damage to friendly installations as well. Will try putting the REs on top of the CRU. \ Ah... Well... Can you see if there was any friendly fire during that match? Maybe somebody lemminged themselves into the explosion or something and I just didn't catch it? Yea, we are looking into it. I assume it was on this character?
Yes.
Kain Spero suggested that they might be damaging one another?
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3cF2KJrkE&feature=youtu.be
Actually, looking at this - I wonder if it's possible that someone hacked it just as I hit the button??? It should ignore damage to friendly installations as well. Will try putting the REs on top of the CRU. \ Ah... Well... Can you see if there was any friendly fire during that match? Maybe somebody lemminged themselves into the explosion or something and I just didn't catch it? Yea, we are looking into it. I assume it was on this character? Yes. Kain Spero suggested that they might be damaging one another?
This is looking to be true, and they do a lot of damage, and even though the REs only have a small amount of health it seems to be counting it all. :( Still investigating though.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:16:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
This is looking to be true, and they do a lot of damage, and even though the REs only have a small amount of health it seems to be counting it all. :( Still investigating though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeLf0rO_0kc&feature=youtu.be
Sorry for ****** recording, all I have is my webcam.
Can I have reversal now ._.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:36:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
This is looking to be true, and they do a lot of damage, and even though the REs only have a small amount of health it seems to be counting it all. :( Still investigating though.
(There was some talk about ARs doing more damage than you had health too.)
Maybe not a good idea to base bans/kicks of damage done if the counters aren't accurate?
Does it count for equipment too? Because if you guys decide to make equipment hackable it might be more of a tactical advantage to flux all your equipment. Just thinking ahead .
A system where you get kicked/banned for teamkilling but with a longer/severe punishment for each battle you do it (it can have a cool down) sounds better at this moment. |
nor asha
Turbo Bros inc.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:15:00 -
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So if I make circle of REs.... and then blow them up... and then repeat a bunch... will I get kicked?
btw I love FF KEEP IT IN FW FOREVER |
Stevez WingYip
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:25:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:We have not been able to reproduce this internally. We captured a CRU and then with someone on the other team placed 1 remote explosive and detonated it. Nothing happened. We did it several more times nothing happening. Finally we tried with 3 at once and still nothing.
Any chance you can give us more information on how this happened?
Do you have any advise for orbitals in FW? I just got kicked for using it on their onjective E but I was unable to see where my team mates where, due to the nature of the map. I think 24 hours is far too long of a penalty. Finally we have visible eve integration and it is amazing fun but mistakes happen that re not griefing and a 24 hour kick is really harsh and not needed in my opinion. Unless of course players report a someone a lot but when you launch an orbital strike that your team mate drives a tank INTO, I don't think it is fair that YOU get punished for that. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1388
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:26:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:We have not been able to reproduce this internally. We captured a CRU and then with someone on the other team placed 1 remote explosive and detonated it. Nothing happened. We did it several more times nothing happening. Finally we tried with 3 at once and still nothing.
Any chance you can give us more information on how this happened? Do you have any advise for orbitals in FW? I just got kicked for using it on their onjective E but I was unable to see where my team mates where, due to the nature of the map. I think 24 hours is far too long of a penalty. Finally we have visible eve integration and it is amazing fun but mistakes happen that re not griefing and a 24 hour kick is really harsh and not needed in my opinion. Unless of course players report a someone a lot but when you launch an orbital strike that your team mate drives a tank INTO, I don't think it is fair that YOU get punished for that.
Did you get kicked during the orbital animation of before it even came in?
TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
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Disfool
Endless Hatred
9
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:46:00 -
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I wanted to find out and it seems re and prox mines stacked together, if you hit one it will detonate them all, doing damage to the other ones, making it over kill the re or prox mines doing friendly fire to your own equipment. Also yes it kicked the enemy that i did this to. |
wade23
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:00:00 -
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Hi, took me awhile to figure this out !Happened to me and my alt, both were REs on neutral or red turrets. Please reverse for bwd23 and wade23, both booted for 24 hours, 0 team kills! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:06:00 -
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Perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to include equipment as part of the TK penalties. If REs and Proxies damaging each other upon detonation is causing this, then I see a bunch of people having problems with this.
It seems that the vast majority of the complaints are centered around the REs and Proxies.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
580
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:26:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to include equipment as part of the TK penalties. If REs and Proxies damaging each other upon detonation is causing this, then I see a bunch of people having problems with this.
It seems that the vast majority of the complaints are centered around the REs and Proxies.
The problem is that you're getting pinged by the damage that is dealt by REs, rather than the damage taken by the other REs/equipment.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:34:00 -
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wade23 wrote:Hi, took me awhile to figure this out !Happened to me and my alt, both were REs on neutral or red turrets. Please reverse for bwd23 and wade23, both booted for 24 hours, 0 team kills!
I was banned two hours after deployment and that's still in effect twelve hours later. Don't think they're un-banning people.
.... although I would like something to compensate for the lost time considering I posted up a video proving all of this, lol...
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