Admittedly the ROF needs to be nerfed, but I swear there's nothing I hate more than the assault scrambler

If they ScR really were OP at hip fire then you would continue to see it used on maps with lots of CQC, like the gallente research lab map. In reality you see almost no ScR users, maybe a few AScR users, and a huge amount of ARs (and maybe a mass driver and shot gunner). Is this a problem? No because these are weapons that are intended to do well there.
Then you go to a domination at manus peak where you have the objective ringed by hills and buildings with lots of open area between them. Suddenly you see a ScR guy go 24-2, well it must be OP! No, it is no! It's because all those people from the last game too the same guy they used before and tried to apply it to a much more open map where the ScR has every advantage of range.

The ScR has alpha damage, but poor over all DPS. This bodes bad for suits that do not have a large tank of HP but very well for someone who does. Say my ScR does 102 damage, x2 for my initial charge shot then my maximum of 4 follow up shots otherwise I overheat (overheat = death in CQC). This allows me to apply 612 damage in about 1.5 seconds, yes that is a lot of damage. However I must then wait a few seconds for it to cool down before I can apply damage again or risk overheating.

The AR DPS is about 437.5 for 4.8 seconds, this means the AR can deal 2,100 damage in 4.8 seconds. 4.8 is probably about the time the ScR can shoot again after doing a charged shot and 4 follow ups. That's over triple the potential damage. So to kill a heavy with a ScR who is tanked for 1,100 armor and 600 shields would take him about 3 charge sets, so almost 15 seconds. The AR user can kill the same heavy in under 4.8.

Who is really OP here?

Dude enuf scambler crying we get u hate them , there's so much u leave out of every equation u describe these threads of urs, video urself dying from some unfair op scrambler deaths and we can all see the relality of each situation.
Peace.

I think all it really needs to bring the weapon in line is a bigger spread in hipfire.

I play with the scr since the big Laser nerf from uprising, wanted to stick to amarr technolog and the scr was the next best choice.

Call me stupid, but I never even tried hipfire with that weapon, strongly playing the weapon as it is supposed to be.
Recently I picked it up again ( had a little AR/LR vacation when scrs became popular) and stumbled upon the hipfire...

I like the gun as it is, but with a tactical weapon like it is supposed to be you should be forced to use ads to be succesful with it, heck i would even gibe green lights on removing the crosshair from it when hipfiring.

i'm convicted that if the weapon is used in its designed way its pretty fine, its a mid to lomgrange sniper and should just be as effective as a sniper rifle, lowering the ROF in a whole would kill the weapon, for 2 reasons:

using it while ads you have to charge up and use a quick follow burst to kill enemys, lowering the rof would make this impossible and all you could really do is harming, instead of killing enemys.

Besides that lowering the Rof what make the bonus you get from the amarr assault suit obsolete, for the lower rof would automatically grant you a slower overheat and therefore more shots, why bother using a suit which is designed to support the use of the weapon anymore?


Seriously, listen to me, I'm not trying to defend the weapon, its just lowering the rof would kill the gun, we need bigger hipfire spread, maybe even a remove of the hipfire crosshairs.


to the assault variant: yeah its pretty balanced, but is sucks balls against the AR, whenever you come to a 1v1 AR user you will lose, eventho the ascr does on paper more damage, the 50rps the ar got more combined with the precision owns from close to semi-longrange.

The Assault Scrambler Rifle is not OP, its the Tactical Scrambler rifle that is OP... Dealing 100+ dmg per shot especially to shields is just messed up and with a rof clost to the normal Assault rifle, its literally doing 2.5x the damage of the duvolle per second, and now its getting a range buff so it can be a red dot sniper rifle. It is the assault rifle DMR of BF4. NO gun should be dealing that much damage in such little time. People say its crap against armor, you are absolutely wrong, its better than any other weapon in the game against armor. You can down an armor tanked basterd faster than you would have firing the second nade if you used a mass driver. The worst part of it is that i am a victom of the OPness of this weapon due to the fact that i have a caldari assault suit (4 shots to down my 580 shields) One charged shot and 3 back ups can kill my suit. If this weapon was effective against tanks, it could possibly be the best AV weapon with that much fking dmg per second.