DUST Search - SMGS are OP

Kane Fyea wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

Lately I have noticed more and more people using SMGs on both scouts and medium frames. After being killed by them a couple of times I started doing some research on them so I could make a QQ thread, and I found most of the players that use these sidearms, especially the scouts, claim its the best sidearm to use in the game and it takes "an average amount of skill." They also claim that its hipfire is great.

Needless to say I didn't believe them especially after looking at all the stats and realizing most of them do more damage than the HMG and they don't take a heavy slot like the HMG does. So I decided to make a new toon and try out these death dealing sidearms for the first time. (I have never used them before today as I dont actually use sidearms on my main because I don't need anything but my AR.)

My suspicions were correct about being way overpowered and very easy to use. Most of my kills were against STARTER fits and they still dropped the target in a about -+ a magazine or less. I also dropped several heavies without having to reload just by switching to my second SMG. I would also say headshots with the SMG was just as easy as with my AR.

1. Just because HMGs are UP doesn't make another weapon OP
2. In the Academy you can make plasma cannons look OP
3. Your AR does a lot more damage then the HMG because of it having laser accuracy until 30 shots are fired continuously.

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Seigfried Warheit 83	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:04:00 - [1] - Quote Day be OP day kill me faster than me AR kill them...AR should kill them first they sidearm should not be gud against me real gun OP OP OP
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 304	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:05:00 - [2] - Quote 3/10 obvious troll thread. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I haz knife. Me get steak?
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 79	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:06:00 - [3] - Quote ......(sigh) i'm not even gona fight this one (turns around and grabs popcorn) When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Seigfried Warheit 83	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:07:00 - [4] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: 3/10 obvious troll thread. It is..I read the Scram Pistol is OP thread and cried a lil so thought the smg needed some 'OP' love
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 79	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 3/10 obvious troll thread. It is..I read the Scram Pistol is OP thread and cried a lil so thought he smg needed some 'OP' love don't worry about it. That threads been going on all day the SMG is safe for now When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Lorhak Gannarsein 651	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:08:00 - [6] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 3/10 obvious troll thread. It is..I read the Scram Pistol is OP thread and cried a lil so thought the smg needed some 'OP' love Here is the link, for those who've not seen it.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 309	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:15:00 - [7] - Quote Agreed, of all the things minmatar to not have flak, it had to be the SMG... I'd rather nobody ***** about the Md or flaylock. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I haz knife. Me get steak?
DeadlyAztec11 2598	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:17:00 - [8] - Quote Stop. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1447	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:34:00 - [9] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Day be OP day kill me faster than me AR kill them...AR should kill them first they sidearm should not be gud against me real gun OP OP OP troll but i agree, this argument was what got flay lock nerfed.
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 281	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:43:00 - [10] - Quote 0/10 I didn't attempt at taking my pants off. Fail troll is Fail The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me? Closed Beta Vet

gandalgrey Endless Hatred 96	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:48:00 - [11] - Quote Im op I need nerfing im on fire Enjoy my logi love juice after you have my needle in your arse
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1145	Posted - 2013.12.08 23:53:00 - [12] - Quote Lately I have noticed more and more people using SMGs on both scouts and medium frames. After being killed by them a couple of times I started doing some research on them so I could make a QQ thread, and I found most of the players that use these sidearms, especially the scouts, claim its the best sidearm to use in the game and it takes "an average amount of skill." They also claim that its hipfire is great. Needless to say I didn't believe them especially after looking at all the stats and realizing most of them do more damage than the HMG and they don't take a heavy slot like the HMG does. So I decided to make a new toon and try out these death dealing sidearms for the first time. (I have never used them before today as I dont actually use sidearms on my main because I don't need anything but my AR.) My suspicions were correct about being way overpowered and very easy to use. Most of my kills were against STARTER fits and they still dropped the target in a about -+ a magazine or less. I also dropped several heavies without having to reload just by switching to my second SMG. I would also say headshots with the SMG was just as easy as with my AR. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8502	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:01:00 - [13] - Quote They're stronger than HMG's, you're welcome to take that however you like. Win ISK / Vids / O7
Kane Fyea 2341	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:09:00 - [14] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Lately I have noticed more and more people using SMGs on both scouts and medium frames. After being killed by them a couple of times I started doing some research on them so I could make a QQ thread, and I found most of the players that use these sidearms, especially the scouts, claim its the best sidearm to use in the game and it takes "an average amount of skill." They also claim that its hipfire is great. Needless to say I didn't believe them especially after looking at all the stats and realizing most of them do more damage than the HMG and they don't take a heavy slot like the HMG does. So I decided to make a new toon and try out these death dealing sidearms for the first time. (I have never used them before today as I dont actually use sidearms on my main because I don't need anything but my AR.) My suspicions were correct about being way overpowered and very easy to use. Most of my kills were against STARTER fits and they still dropped the target in a about -+ a magazine or less. I also dropped several heavies without having to reload just by switching to my second SMG. I would also say headshots with the SMG was just as easy as with my AR. 1. Just because HMGs are UP doesn't make another weapon OP 2. In the Academy you can make plasma cannons look OP 3. Your AR does a lot more damage then the HMG because of it having laser accuracy until 30 shots are fired continuously.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1148	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:28:00 - [15] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Lately I have noticed more and more people using SMGs on both scouts and medium frames. After being killed by them a couple of times I started doing some research on them so I could make a QQ thread, and I found most of the players that use these sidearms, especially the scouts, claim its the best sidearm to use in the game and it takes "an average amount of skill." They also claim that its hipfire is great. Needless to say I didn't believe them especially after looking at all the stats and realizing most of them do more damage than the HMG and they don't take a heavy slot like the HMG does. So I decided to make a new toon and try out these death dealing sidearms for the first time. (I have never used them before today as I dont actually use sidearms on my main because I don't need anything but my AR.) My suspicions were correct about being way overpowered and very easy to use. Most of my kills were against STARTER fits and they still dropped the target in a about -+ a magazine or less. I also dropped several heavies without having to reload just by switching to my second SMG. I would also say headshots with the SMG was just as easy as with my AR. 1. Just because HMGs are UP doesn't make another weapon OP 2. In the Academy you can make plasma cannons look OP 3. Your AR does a lot more damage then the HMG because of it having laser accuracy until 30 shots are fired continuously. In was making fun of somebody else. Most of that wasn't serious. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1170	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:31:00 - [16] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: ......(sigh) i'm not even gona fight this one (turns around and grabs popcorn) (sits next Yoma) You here for the game to? The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2862	Posted - 2013.12.09 00:34:00 - [17] - Quote AT close range the SMG IS pretty beast. not OP thou... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Gabriella Grey The Neutral Zone 104	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:39:00 - [18] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 3/10 obvious troll thread. It is..I read the Scram Pistol is OP thread and cried a lil so thought the smg needed some 'OP' love LOL... I just read that before coming here. I didn't get any of the proof he was talking about. Its a medium to close range weapon. The gun is pretty well balanced. Its rounds per minute are significantly less than that of an assault rifle, and less damage. It's a weapon you really should not pull out unless you are familiar with your surroundings, and judgement on what your shooting at.


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