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Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:16:00 -
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Like the title says, what do you pure logi's roughly make per match? I'm all for helping the team out, but I can't do that if I'm broke. 
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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CaveCav
Eliters
RUST415
82
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:26:00 -
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For me it's from about 250k to 500k, depends on WP gain and team performance.
On average it's between 280k and 350k.
Usually run ADV fits that cost 50-75k each.
Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
645
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:29:00 -
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For myself, when I'm running Logibro with all ADV technology (Except my Duvolle), about 250k-350k. I'll reply back to this on Tuesday, when I get my Proto-Logi.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Lanius Pulvis
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:56:00 -
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With a Std logi with the only Adv equip being my repper I can honestly say, it depends on the squad. I average 200 to 250k, but if you get a squad that just spreads to the 4 winds and always spawns somewhere new you can get as little as 70k. I also don't tend to spam uplinks unless the rest of the team through some miracle doesn't, and that can be a real moneymaker.
Not new, just new to you.
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Crazy Cat Lady
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
21
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Posted - 2013.12.08 22:33:00 -
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The ISK payout for matches is dependent on the value of the suites and equipment bought into the match by the other team (i.e more proto means more ISK). This will then be divided based upon War Points. Logis can get alot of WP so this is good for us!
If you have a good battle on your hands that lasts longer you can get a better payout (more reps, more hive, more people spawning on your uplinks ect).
I typically make about 280-300K isk in a standard skirmish running mostly advanced suites with proto equipment and being in the top 3 on the ladder for WP. This can get as high as 600+ if its a tough fight.
Us pure logi's tend to die more and have more expensive suites (due to lots of modules) which can make balancing ISK tricky during the early stages.
To make money as a logi:
- avoid running proto all the time.
- have a range of suites with different values ( i.e I have suites that do similar things in 30k, 60k and 100+K categories)
- adapt to the conditions (i.e. if you are dying alot or don't have a strong squad supporting you come out in cheaper gear for a while).
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Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
General Tso's Alliance
246
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:33:00 -
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Thanks for the input guys! Going to give it a try
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
652
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Posted - 2013.12.09 01:07:00 -
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Remember though, you need to be careful with the Logistics. I know a lot of people out there are screaming "NERF THE LOGIII11!!!!!", and I'll admit, I rarely lose a Logi suit. Whether it's skill or fit, we'll never know. What I can tell you is that WHEN you lose a Logistics, it'll obliterate your wallet. My ADV Logistics costs me about ~72k per fit. The Prototype Logistics dropsuit ALONE costs more than that, plus the ADV equipment, Duvolle, Plates, Damage Mods... It'll be harsh.
So yup. If you're low on ISK, try not to lose these.
Also, join the Learning Coalition if you want help with anything else, I'm online VERY often. :D
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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lee corwood
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.12.09 05:07:00 -
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Definitely depends on your squad. With squad members that don't work well together, you might get around 70 - 120k. With a really good squad, you'll get a really good payout. My general average is around 280+, even on solo runs. I have several levels of suits with my most expensive being 98k a piece and my least expensive being 37k. Though, my most expensive suit is going to be even more after I add the core focused rep tool to it. Depending on the game, I'll still lose a good number of suits (though I'm not the best player) against the proto hitters. That being said, I'm actually rolling in isk. So if managed correctly, isk won't be problem for you.
I'm sorry, but you've ruined the emperor's groove.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
507
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:58:00 -
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What the crazy cat lady said.
Oooh if you guys want to save some ISK: replace that duvolle with the standard AR. |
Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
General Tso's Alliance
247
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Posted - 2013.12.09 12:03:00 -
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RKKR wrote:What the crazy cat lady said.
Oooh if you guys want to save some ISK: replace that duvolle with the standard AR.
Exile. 
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
655
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:45:00 -
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Proto-Logi in less than 24 hours! Excited. Must. Kill. Everything!
Also, I should rep stuff. And scan. Maybe revive. Generally NOT be a Slayer. But I will give a nice, 3 Damage-Modded Duvolle to the people that run Proto C-Logi in every single match they go in to.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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J'Hiera
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2013.12.09 20:24:00 -
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No different than my assault. Around 170-190k on a normal round. 200-350k during a proto slaughter. |
Rentoku Gratzl
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:25:00 -
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I'm running a basic logi, basic shields, adv plates, GEK+smg, with uplink and hive and I'm getting about 240k a match with my 25k fit.
I do often go on a killing spree too though |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
663
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:45:00 -
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Got Proto-Suits.
First Pub Match I did, I got around 1000 WP, and net myself around 350k ISK. The rest of my time was spent in FW.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Rentoku Gratzl
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:57:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:I'm running a basic logi, basic shields, adv plates, GEK+smg, with uplink and hive and I'm getting about 240k a match with my 25k fit.
I do often go on a killing spree too though
Update:
Now got the Adv Logi suit skill, and bagged a fistful of Proto suits from the Loyalty Store.
Basic Fit:
185 Shield, 440 Armour (625 HP)
Logistics A-1 Series
GEK-38 Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
R-9 Drop Uplink
Compact Nanohive
Basic Shield Extender x2
Enhanced Armor Plates x2
Adv Fit:
161 Shield, 557 Armour (718HP)
Logistics A/1 Series
GEK-38 Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Flux Grenade
R-9 Drop Uplink
Compact Nanohive
Militia Light Damage Mod x2 (had spare CPU/PG and these cost less)
Basic Shield Extender x1
Enhanced Armor Plates x3
Proto Fit:
243 Shield, 673 Armour (916 HP)
Imperial Logistics ak.0
Duvolle Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Flux Grenade
Nanite Injector
R-9 Drop Uplink
Compact Nanohive
Enhanced Shield Extender x3
Enhanced Armor Plates x 4
I've also got my "SuperCheapFit" which is just the Medic [Starter Fit] with an R-9 Drop Uplink in place of the Nanite Injector.
SuperCheapFit
254 Shield, 207 Amour (461 HP)
Medic
Militia Assault Rifle
Militia SMG
Militia Locus Grenade
R-9 Drop Uplink
Militia Shield Extender x2
Made this last fit to help rack up ISK in pubs now that FW doesn't pay out cash. Popped the R-9 so I can drop two spawn points and grab some WP whilst trying to get kills with a Militia AR and not doing too bad! Think I might pop in a proper AR for the larger clip for the sake of 1500 ISK. Means the whole fit is 3,915 ISK and I'm still making about 200k a match using this instead of my 25k+ Logi kit!
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2123
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:36:00 -
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Being a logibro is so fun. I enjoy supporting my team. You can almost feel the gratitude when you pull out the rep tool and bring someone back from the brink. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
674
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:01:00 -
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Earlier I had a squad of Logis, and my mate Draco was confused as to why my 800+ armor didn't look like it was repping at all. He then realized that I was moving at the speed of a heavy and I have 5 plates on. :P
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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agent caron
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.12.22 20:53:00 -
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using mostly avanced gear i make about 200k each match. along with the cost of the actual suit it ends up with like 160k profit or something like that |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
457
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Posted - 2013.12.22 22:11:00 -
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If you have a really cheap suit and practice some risk aversion you can make decent Isk even if you are on the wrong side of a full scale stomp.
One of the factors that determines Isk payout is the difference in WP between players on the same team. You may score 1000 + WP but only get 175k Isk or less because a whole bunch of your team also scored similar amounts.
However, 1000 WP could get you 250k + because the 2nd player on the team only scored 200-300 WP and so on.
In these cases, as others have said, uplinks are an effective Isk generator as you earn more WP because your blueberries are getting slaughtered.
Doesn't make for a great battle but does help you fund future wars. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:16:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:If you have a really cheap suit and practice some risk aversion you can make decent Isk even if you are on the wrong side of a full scale stomp.
One of the factors that determines Isk payout is the difference in WP between players on the same team. You may score 1000 + WP but only get 175k Isk or less because a whole bunch of your team also scored similar amounts.
However, 1000 WP could get you 250k + because the 2nd player on the team only scored 200-300 WP and so on.
In these cases, as others have said, uplinks are an effective Isk generator as you earn more WP because your blueberries are getting slaughtered.
Doesn't make for a great battle but does help you fund future wars.
On the converse side of this: if you have a really good team that rarely uses uplinks, I just did a PC and was 1st having gotten more than 1000+ wp over the rest of my team from healing alone. A really good rep tool can pull its weight in isk :)
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
825
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:16:00 -
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I'd say that I average about 2-300 a match too, assuming it's competitive. I'll concur that uplinks are good insurance against loss, because if your team is getting slaughtered they need to spawn somewhere (unless you are being redlined, in which case go snipe in a BPO or something I guess, lol). They will make up for the WP you would ordinarily get from reps or hives. It's just like wall street, you need a diversified portfolio to minimized your risk!
Now that I lose so much ISK in FW I need to start looking at my costs again, I stopped caring for a while once I built up a decent size wallet. It's not too hard to find pretty good savings without sacrificing a ton of function. For example, a GEK is not that much worse than a Duvolle if you have proficiency and the cost difference is just ludicrous.
Pro tip to the newly proto-enabled: Don't get too excited and go bankrupt. I got my proto logi a month ago and have only used it 2-3 times. I don't do PC, so ADV pretty much gives you the best risk/reward balance. My templar Logi BPO is awesome but much less durable than the A/1 so it tends to even out a little.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
74
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:04:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:
Pro tip to the newly proto-enabled: Don't get too excited and go bankrupt. I got my proto logi a month ago and have only used it 2-3 times. I don't do PC, so ADV pretty much gives you the best risk/reward balance. My templar Logi BPO is awesome but much less durable than the A/1 so it tends to even out a little.
I second this. While my wallet is well padded, losing even 2 of these is enough to feel the pressure. I have only used mine maybe 7 times total, and mostly that is in PC or FW with a WELL organized team. With ttk as low as it is and you having equipment in your hand 70% of the time instead of the gun, find a bpo or duplicate a starter suit and focus on your support and strafing/dodging.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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