DUST Search - [Brainstorm] Pro Tips

ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:

While scanning the forums I came across yet another "Help the newbs" thread. The fact that the community as a whole wants to help them is great so I figured I'd do a little brain storm.
Currently there are only a few ways to help them

CCP give longer academy time = more SP and personal experience = greater chance of survival
One-on-one support: Take time to aid them yourself.
Post in the Training Grounds. unfortunately newbs normally ignore the forums for quite some time (this is true for almost every game).

I was thinking of taking '3' a step further by adding a "Pro Tips" section in the social tab in-game. Players would be able to give there advice about the game so that the newbs aren't completely in the dark.

"What if the advice is garbage or just trolling"
I say incorporate a "Quality" system that allows players to gauge how helpful the advice is. The more thumbs ups, the higher the quality of the advice and the advice will be higher up on the list of Tips. Thumbs downs will cause the quality to decrease until 0 after which more thumbs downs could cause the Tip to be deleted.

Example:

TIP
Use mlt (militia) gear in order to save up ISK (in-game Currency) to buy better gear.

[50 thumbs up] = Quality(50) (This TIPs quality is higher than any other TIP in the list and therefore is placed on top)

(This tip, do to a random patch, is no longer valid so the community begins to thumbs down the TIP)
[15 thumbs down] = Quality(35) (This tip is dropped a few spaces in the list of tips as it no longer has the highest quality)

(Players that gave a thumbs up are changing there minds and giving thumbs downs)
[20 thumbs up lost] = Quality(25) | [20 more thumbs down] = Quality(-5)

When a TIP's quality reaches -10 the TIP is deleted.

As you can see from the above, you can change your vote at anytime. Players votes are connected to there PSN and not there individual characters so as to prevent (or reduce) troll votes.
I feel this system could really help the new players while also possibly teaching players that's been here a while something new.

So what do you guys think?
If you dislike then please say why.
Do you have a suggestion for helping the new players other then what's listed? Please feel free to post here.

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ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 620	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:38:00 - [1] - Quote While scanning the forums I came across yet another "Help the newbs" thread. The fact that the community as a whole wants to help them is great so I figured I'd do a little brain storm. Currently there are only a few ways to help them CCP give longer academy time = more SP and personal experience = greater chance of survival One-on-one support: Take time to aid them yourself. Post in the Training Grounds. unfortunately newbs normally ignore the forums for quite some time (this is true for almost every game). I was thinking of taking '3' a step further by adding a "Pro Tips" section in the social tab in-game. Players would be able to give there advice about the game so that the newbs aren't completely in the dark. "What if the advice is garbage or just trolling" I say incorporate a "Quality" system that allows players to gauge how helpful the advice is. The more thumbs ups, the higher the quality of the advice and the advice will be higher up on the list of Tips. Thumbs downs will cause the quality to decrease until 0 after which more thumbs downs could cause the Tip to be deleted. Example: TIP Use mlt (militia) gear in order to save up ISK (in-game Currency) to buy better gear. [50 thumbs up] = Quality(50) (This TIPs quality is higher than any other TIP in the list and therefore is placed on top) (This tip, do to a random patch, is no longer valid so the community begins to thumbs down the TIP) [15 thumbs down] = Quality(35) (This tip is dropped a few spaces in the list of tips as it no longer has the highest quality) (Players that gave a thumbs up are changing there minds and giving thumbs downs) [20 thumbs up lost] = Quality(25) \| [20 more thumbs down] = Quality(-5) When a TIP's quality reaches -10 the TIP is deleted. As you can see from the above, you can change your vote at anytime. Players votes are connected to there PSN and not there individual characters so as to prevent (or reduce) troll votes. I feel this system could really help the new players while also possibly teaching players that's been here a while something new. So what do you guys think? If you dislike then please say why. Do you have a suggestion for helping the new players other then what's listed? Please feel free to post here. Scout Tactician "You have been Scanned"
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5910	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:48:00 - [2] - Quote I feel that a superior solution would be to actually have tutorials. I know that's hard, CCP. But seriously. Gameplay tutorials. They're kind of needed, you know? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Talos Vagheitan 278	Posted - 2013.12.08 18:49:00 - [3] - Quote I've got a bunch of Academy ideas :) For starters, most players are confused in the beginning, they don't understand how the skill tree works, what the races, how dropsuits work etc... Here's what would help a lot - Improved tutorial system, preferably with a voice-over for people who get tired of tons of reading when they are just expecting to blow stuff up. - More varieties of militia suits, so players are able to get a bit of a taste of everything before they decide where to spec - Offer an optional complete re-spec to players who graduate the academy Who cares what some sniper has to say
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 621	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:44:00 - [4] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: I've got a bunch of Academy ideas :) For starters, most players are confused in the beginning, they don't understand how the skill tree works, what the races, how dropsuits work etc... Here's what would help a lot - Improved tutorial system, preferably with a voice-over for people who get tired of tons of reading when they are just expecting to blow stuff up. - More varieties of militia suits, so players are able to get a bit of a taste of everything before they decide where to spec - Offer an optional complete re-spec to players who graduate the academy Not bad, not bad at all. Scout Tactician "You have been Scanned"
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1599	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:46:00 - [5] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: While scanning the forums I came across yet another "Help the newbs" thread. The fact that the community as a whole wants to help them is great so I figured I'd do a little brain storm. Currently there are only a few ways to help them CCP give longer academy time = more SP and personal experience = greater chance of survival One-on-one support: Take time to aid them yourself. Post in the Training Grounds. unfortunately newbs normally ignore the forums for quite some time (this is true for almost every game). I was thinking of taking '3' a step further by adding a "Pro Tips" section in the social tab in-game. Players would be able to give there advice about the game so that the newbs aren't completely in the dark. "What if the advice is garbage or just trolling" I say incorporate a "Quality" system that allows players to gauge how helpful the advice is. The more thumbs ups, the higher the quality of the advice and the advice will be higher up on the list of Tips. Thumbs downs will cause the quality to decrease until 0 after which more thumbs downs could cause the Tip to be deleted. Example: TIP Use mlt (militia) gear in order to save up ISK (in-game Currency) to buy better gear. [50 thumbs up] = Quality(50) (This TIPs quality is higher than any other TIP in the list and therefore is placed on top) (This tip, do to a random patch, is no longer valid so the community begins to thumbs down the TIP) [15 thumbs down] = Quality(35) (This tip is dropped a few spaces in the list of tips as it no longer has the highest quality) (Players that gave a thumbs up are changing there minds and giving thumbs downs) [20 thumbs up lost] = Quality(25) \| [20 more thumbs down] = Quality(-5) When a TIP's quality reaches -10 the TIP is deleted. As you can see from the above, you can change your vote at anytime. Players votes are connected to there PSN and not there individual characters so as to prevent (or reduce) troll votes. I feel this system could really help the new players while also possibly teaching players that's been here a while something new. So what do you guys think? If you dislike then please say why. Do you have a suggestion for helping the new players other then what's listed? Please feel free to post here. My advice to anyone - stack 3 damage mods and all plates if you want to wreck with the least amount of effort. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 622	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:54:00 - [6] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: My advice to anyone - stack 3 damage mods and all plates if you want to wreck with the least amount of effort. If my idea was in-game then the new players would be able to read what you just said. As of now the thread may die before they ever get to see it. Scout Tactician "You have been Scanned"
Faunher The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 13	Posted - 2013.12.09 04:57:00 - [7] - Quote Local chat is always very helpful...
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 622	Posted - 2013.12.09 05:01:00 - [8] - Quote Faunher wrote: Local chat is always very helpful... Unfortunately not all players are connected to one-another through this chat but you are correct, the local chat is a good place to start. Scout Tactician "You have been Scanned"
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 141	Posted - 2013.12.09 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote I just adopt them and show them the way of SCR, no wonder the thing is reaching FOTM levels. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, formerly mass driver, and now scrambler CQC spammer.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 624	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:28:00 - [10] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: I just adopt them and show them the way of SCR, no wonder the thing is reaching FOTM levels. For just a penny a day, you too can adopt a newberry. Call now before it's too late (and they quit) Scout Tactician "You have been Scanned"
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 598	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:43:00 - [11] - Quote Faunher wrote: Local chat is always very helpful... Really? Mine is full of people asking for Isk and calling each other gay. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain

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