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Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3573	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:43:00 - [1] - Quote A support class should not be able to survive one shot from a Proto Shotgun. Please buff Shotgun damage. Takes 3 shots to take some of the ******* down. Buff Shotguns
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote Absolute poppycock! The outrage! "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
gravalicious Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:52:00 - [3] - Quote Follow CCP's example and just use the Assault Rifle. It's the only weapon they care about anyway. :)
DeadlyAztec11 2540	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:53:00 - [4] - Quote Nope. Std Breach Shotgun + Complex Damage Mods NO. Trust me. What the Shotgun needs is to not have as many random detection issues. Asides that, ADS if you are close enough and get a headshot, it really does help for killing tanked people that are hacking or sniping, even walking. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5893	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:56:00 - [5] - Quote It'd be nice if you didn't have to be in knife range to actually hit with the thing properly. The range on it is ridiculously low even for a shotgun. I tanked a shotgun blast that I'm pretty sure was aimed right at me in a scout from something like 5 metres. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1329	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:57:00 - [6] - Quote I'd like the Proto to do more, but also would love it if the lower tiers did less. Militia Shotgun Blueprint is on the killfeeds alot more than it probably should be... Shields as Weapons
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:59:00 - [7] - Quote gravalicious wrote: Follow CCP's example and just use the Assault Rifle. It's the only weapon they care about anyway. :) Soon to be the rail rifle, once everyone realizes its superiority to the AR. They're already realizes how much better the Scrambler is. (Amarr tech > all tech) [Hail the Empire] {And the Empress's boobs} "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:00:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It'd be nice if you didn't have to be in knife range to actually hit with the thing properly. The range on it is ridiculously low even for a shotgun. I tanked a shotgun blast that I'm pretty sure was aimed right at me in a scout from something like 5 metres. Lies! I've been killed from 15-25 meters away with a shotgun. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the wonky hit-detection. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
pseudosnipre 379	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:26:00 - [9] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It'd be nice if you didn't have to be in knife range to actually hit with the thing properly. The range on it is ridiculously low even for a shotgun. I tanked a shotgun blast that I'm pretty sure was aimed right at me in a scout from something like 5 metres. Lies! I've been killed from 15-25 meters away with a shotgun. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the wonky hit-detection. SG will drop you a few ticks even at that range, but I'll posit that the sg-wielder stole someone else's kill...or you were already at death's door. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:31:00 - [10] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It'd be nice if you didn't have to be in knife range to actually hit with the thing properly. The range on it is ridiculously low even for a shotgun. I tanked a shotgun blast that I'm pretty sure was aimed right at me in a scout from something like 5 metres. Lies! I've been killed from 15-25 meters away with a shotgun. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the wonky hit-detection. SG will drop you a few ticks even at that range, but I'll posit that the sg-wielder stole someone else's kill...or you were already at death's door. CalAssault with ADV shotgun. I was a scout with ~400 total HP. I hit him once from behind. He panics, turns, I pop him once more. We back off. I have ~150 armor left, he is down to ~15% of his total armor. Then we start wailing on each other with shotgun from 15-25 meters away. It took him two shots to down me. My shots did nothing or close to it. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor

Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 414	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:33:00 - [11] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: A support class should not be able to survive one shot from a Proto Shotgun. Please buff Shotgun damage. Takes 3 shots to take some of the ***** down. Buff the ROF or the proficiency for it maybe 5% more ROF per LVL instead of 3%. Assassination is my thing.**
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3577	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:53:00 - [12] - Quote Just a report from a recent match 5m out, two hits on a CalLogi, hes down to 235 Armour, then he guns me down with a Duvolle. 6m out Takes two hits to kill MLT Amarr Frontline suit. All with a Duvolle Specialist. Still went 35/6, and got revenge on that CalLogi, more than once, even managed to take out his Assault Ck.0 buddy at the same time. Buff Shotguns
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 367	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:54:00 - [13] - Quote I love when the guy with a militia shotgun comes at me while I'm camping on my rep hives. Gives me enough time to turn around and Duvolle them in the face ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2018	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:59:00 - [14] - Quote And this is why I like my knives better. Assuming I can land it before getting duvolled in the face, a Gal Logi is one charge swipe. Shotguns seem to be a better side arm to my pistol or SMG than an actual main as of late. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
pseudosnipre 380	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:05:00 - [15] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Just a report from a recent match 5m out, two hits on a CalLogi, hes down to 235 Armour, then he guns me down with a Duvolle. 6m out Takes two hits to kill MLT Amarr Frontline suit. All with a Duvolle Specialist. Still went 35/6, and got revenge on that CalLogi, more than once, even managed to take out his Assault Ck.0 buddy at the same time. loudout? Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
pseudosnipre 380	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:13:00 - [16] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: A support class should not be able to survive one shot from a Proto Shotgun. Please buff Shotgun damage. Takes 3 shots to take some of the ******* down. Buff the ROF or the proficiency for it maybe 5% more ROF per LVL instead of 3%. Personally would like to see CCP buff ROF 10% between std, adv, and proto AND switch proficiency to damage increase...like the other weapons. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3582	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:16:00 - [17] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Just a report from a recent match 5m out, two hits on a CalLogi, hes down to 235 Armour, then he guns me down with a Duvolle. 6m out Takes two hits to kill MLT Amarr Frontline suit. All with a Duvolle Specialist. Still went 35/6, and got revenge on that CalLogi, more than once, even managed to take out his Assault Ck.0 buddy at the same time. loudout? Scout mk.0 Highs Enhanced Light Damage Modifier 2x Complex Shield Extender Lows Complex Kinetic Cat Enhanced CPU Extender Weapons Duvolle Specialist Shotgun M209 Assault Submachine Gun Grenade + EQ Flux Nades F/45 Remote Explosives Electronics / Engineering - LVL 3 I really didn't want to have to resort to fitting a CPU module, but it works out in the end, I think its a good trade-off, I will definitely change some things around when I get LVL 5 Engineer + Elec from the vehicle SP Refund (Will most likely replace Enhanced DMG Mod, with Complex), but for now, I like this fit. Brought it into PC Vs Rainbow Effect last night, and went 7/12, I done decent considering I was against an experienced enemy, that constantly had me Perma scanned, was my first PC match in about one month, and also, was having to deal with lag. I would've done better if it had not been for the lag, at the start, I had a kill / death count of probably 2:1, then the lag kicked in, and I got death after death after death. But of course, its not all to blame on lag, I did make some stupid mistakes. There is definitely room for improvement. Buff Shotguns


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