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          knight of 6 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 16:53:00 -
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          I feel dirty. I just brick tanked my proto scout.
  congratulations, I just lost a gk.0 to a MLT gallente fit with a MLT AR. normally this only bothers me a lot. however this one was different he had 500+ armor HP... I had like 310 total HP...
  so, calming my mind, I politely waited for the match to end getting what kills I could. then immediately stacked all the plates I could on my scout. they were ferroscale because I am still a scout after all (wouldn't wanna give up dat smexy extra .45 mps).
  my scout no longer has biotics, and only has one armor rep killing my active tank... it is now a mico assault I hope you are happy.
  BTW I still doon't have a higher EHP than that MLT suit...
 "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon 
Ko6, scout, tanker. 
CLOSED BETA VET 
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          Stefan Stahl 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:00:00 -
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          What was the range that you were killed at by the MLT AR?
  I'm asking because a respectable PRO Gallente scout should easily have a scan range of over 40 meters (reasonable max 52 m), which is beyond the optimal range of ARs, if I'm right.
  P.S.: My "Frontline" suit has a complex damage mod and 550 hp.   | 
      
      
      
          
          calisk galern 
          BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:02:00 -
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          knight of 6 wrote:I feel dirty. I just brick tanked my proto scout.
  congratulations, I just lost a gk.0 to a MLT gallente fit with a MLT AR. normally this only bothers me a lot. however this one was different he had 500+ armor HP... I had like 310 total HP...
  so, calming my mind, I politely waited for the match to end getting what kills I could. then immediately stacked all the plates I could on my scout. they were ferroscale because I am still a scout after all (wouldn't wanna give up dat smexy extra .45 mps).
  my scout no longer has biotics, and only has one armor rep killing my active tank... it is now a mico assault I hope you are happy.
  BTW I still doon't have a higher EHP than that MLT suit...  
  lose the repper and carry repper hives, also lose the ferroscales and carry basic plates.
  you need to let go of that speed, it's not helping you.
  also use an AR. | 
      
      
      
          
          Xender17 
          Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:02:00 -
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          You're about 1 proto suit...  Be glad you don't use DSs or HAVs.
 What the fox say? 
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          knight of 6 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:07:00 -
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          Stefan Stahl wrote:What was the range that you were killed at by the MLT AR? I'm asking because a respectable PRO Gallente scout should easily have a scan range of over 40 meters (reasonable max 52 m), which is beyond the optimal range of ARs, if I'm right. P.S.: My "Frontline" suit has a complex damage mod and 550 hp.    
  max scan bonus = 100% passive scan range = 16m max passive range w/o mods = 32m skills required, gal scout 5, scan 5
  scan range is really only good when hacking or in 1v1 situations
  this was 3 on 1 but the other 2 didn't notice @ about 20m
 "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon 
Ko6, scout, tanker. 
CLOSED BETA VET 
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          knight of 6 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:10:00 -
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          Xender17 wrote:You're about 1 proto suit...  Be glad you don't use DSs or HAVs.   I have more than enough experience losing marauders to know the pain... dropships have never been my cup of tea. I ran them for 2 builds codex and precursor maybe? it was a long time ago.
 "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon 
Ko6, scout, tanker. 
CLOSED BETA VET 
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          Stefan Stahl 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:14:00 -
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          You have the *best* base scan range of any suit in the game, please add a complex range extender for another 45% bonus to properly make use of that range. Then you'll arrive at the quoted 52 meters range, which will even outrange a SCR.
  I'm not very knowledgeable about fitting in the Eve universe, but I think the general rule is to improve the strenghts of what you are using (scan range & speed) instead of mitigating the weaknesses (lack of hp). | 
      
      
      
          
          knight of 6 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:16:00 -
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          calisk galern wrote:knight of 6 wrote:I feel dirty. I just brick tanked my proto scout.
  congratulations, I just lost a gk.0 to a MLT gallente fit with a MLT AR. normally this only bothers me a lot. however this one was different he had 500+ armor HP... I had like 310 total HP...
  so, calming my mind, I politely waited for the match to end getting what kills I could. then immediately stacked all the plates I could on my scout. they were ferroscale because I am still a scout after all (wouldn't wanna give up dat smexy extra .45 mps).
  my scout no longer has biotics, and only has one armor rep killing my active tank... it is now a mico assault I hope you are happy.
  BTW I still doon't have a higher EHP than that MLT suit...  lose the repper and carry repper hives, also lose the ferroscales and carry basic plates. you need to let go of that speed, it's not helping you. also use an AR.   I do use an AR. duvolle prof 3...
  I only have one equip slot... not sure I wanna lose the rep.
 "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon 
Ko6, scout, tanker. 
CLOSED BETA VET 
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          calisk galern 
          BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:28:00 -
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          knight of 6 wrote:calisk galern wrote:knight of 6 wrote:I feel dirty. I just brick tanked my proto scout.
  congratulations, I just lost a gk.0 to a MLT gallente fit with a MLT AR. normally this only bothers me a lot. however this one was different he had 500+ armor HP... I had like 310 total HP...
  so, calming my mind, I politely waited for the match to end getting what kills I could. then immediately stacked all the plates I could on my scout. they were ferroscale because I am still a scout after all (wouldn't wanna give up dat smexy extra .45 mps).
  my scout no longer has biotics, and only has one armor rep killing my active tank... it is now a mico assault I hope you are happy.
  BTW I still doon't have a higher EHP than that MLT suit...  lose the repper and carry repper hives, also lose the ferroscales and carry basic plates. you need to let go of that speed, it's not helping you. also use an AR.  I do use an AR. duvolle prof 3... I only have one equip slot... not sure I wanna lose the rep.  
  everyone says that before they try the wirykomi triage hives, then you try them and realise....this is why i've been dieing, i haven't had these with me.
  of course you could just go the rest of the way and get a gallentte logi suit. | 
      
      
      
          
          low genius 
          The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:29:00 -
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          you tried to Omni tank a scout suit and you were surprised when you lost the suit?
  how could that make any sense to anyone? | 
      
      
      
          
          DootDoot 
          Da Short Buss
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:33:00 -
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          If you cant tank/Move fast enough to break the Aim Assist lock the speed is useless...
 
  Best just to grab the Health and damage and kill them before they kill you. should have some element of surprise which is your only main advantage. | 
      
      
      
          
          knight of 6 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:41:00 -
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          low genius wrote:you tried to Omni tank a scout suit and you were surprised when you lost the suit?
  how could that make any sense to anyone?   how foolish of me to try and make a scout... well scout.
  god forbid it have agility, a quick rep rate, and enough ehp to make use of the rep rate...
 "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon 
Ko6, scout, tanker. 
CLOSED BETA VET 
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          Tectonic Fusion 
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 17:49:00 -
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          My brick tanked Dragonfly scout has a total of 483 EHP... How did you get less health for "brick tanking" it?
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          Sinboto Simmons 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 18:10:00 -
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          DootDoot wrote:If you cant tank/Move fast enough to break the Aim Assist lock the speed is useless...
 
  Best just to grab the Health and damage and kill them before they kill you. should have some element of surprise which is your only main advantage.   I'm not sure anyone can.
 Sinboto - The True Blood Minja 
Forum Warrior level 2 
STB-Infantry (Demolition) 
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          Krom Ganesh 
          Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.12.06 18:20:00 -
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          Sinboto Simmons wrote:DootDoot wrote:If you cant tank/Move fast enough to break the Aim Assist lock the speed is useless...
 
  Best just to grab the Health and damage and kill them before they kill you. should have some element of surprise which is your only main advantage.  I'm not sure anyone can.  
  Well, you can in a way by using the AA against them. But you have to switch strafe directions on them which means you have to cross their line of fire. This worked fine pre-1.6. After 1.6, a scout crossing the line of fire for even a fraction of a second leads to death making it incredibly impractical to break the aim assist.
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