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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.12.05 22:42:00 -
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Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development)
Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 22:47:00 -
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I don't know why they needed to nerf AV nades, all they needed to do is not make them resupply from hives.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:21:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development)
All i hear is "waaaa, my ~20k isk AV won't insta pop ~1M vehicles now"
Its balance, and its about time.
EVE - Victor Maximus
DUST - Azri Sarum
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:23:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development) All i hear is "waaaa, my ~20k isk AV won't insta pop ~1M vehicles now" Its balance , and its about time. The Cost/reward is a bit scary, but you don't have to be condescending.
Names of playstyles
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:24:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development)
Yes these changes are due to the changes to vehicles. Vehicles now have low buffer and depend on active modules that boost performance. The idea with the AV changes is so that AV (like vehicles) are deadly close when used with other players in a concerted effort, but aren't as effective as when at range. Symmetry between vehicles and AV. This is what people seem to overlook with the changes coming.
Chivalry is not dead, but many who practiced it are.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:27:00 -
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Pretty much the whole update looks great to me. I am skeptical about the extender penalty, and not sure what some of the things actually are (volcano terraforming doesn't sound like a gameplay feature, but a dev tool). Honestly though, the health bars make me super excited to put rep tools on all my fits again, its been too long since I've been able to effectively repair.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:26:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development) All i hear is "waaaa, my ~20k isk AV won't insta pop ~1M vehicles now" Its balance , and its about time.
For me, it's more about people dropping +1M ISK tanks into public matches. I end up being the only one trying to kill the tank with something other than militia SL, and even my proto FG barely makes a dent. I understand that the vehicles are very expensive, but is it balanced if it costs me the same amount of ISK in lost dropsuits to kill the vehicle?
Plus, CCP keeps nerfing non-medium suits. It's pretty frustrating (I guess it isn't a big deal; I'm a generalist, so I have SP in everything).
Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:31:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Azri Sarum wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development) All i hear is "waaaa, my ~20k isk AV won't insta pop ~1M vehicles now" Its balance , and its about time. For me, it's more about people dropping +1M ISK tanks into public matches. I end up being the only one trying to kill the tank with something other than militia SL, and even my proto FG barely makes a dent. I understand that the vehicles are very expensive, but is it balanced if it costs me the same amount of ISK in lost dropsuits to kill the vehicle? Plus, CCP keeps nerfing non-medium suits. It's pretty frustrating (I guess it isn't a big deal; I'm a generalist, so I have SP in everything). High five for generalizing ^-^/
My proto Swarms will be sad too :(
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:Azri Sarum wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:Another FG nerf? :(
Proto AV grenades have been taken all the way down to the damage standard used to do? :(
(Maybe this was all necessary for the vehicle development) All i hear is "waaaa, my ~20k isk AV won't insta pop ~1M vehicles now" Its balance , and its about time. For me, it's more about people dropping +1M ISK tanks into public matches. I end up being the only one trying to kill the tank with something other than militia SL, and even my proto FG barely makes a dent. I understand that the vehicles are very expensive, but is it balanced if it costs me the same amount of ISK in lost dropsuits to kill the vehicle? Plus, CCP keeps nerfing non-medium suits. It's pretty frustrating (I guess it isn't a big deal; I'm a generalist, so I have SP in everything). High five for generalizing ^-^/ My proto Swarms will be sad too :(
I wanted to grab Proto Swarms but I had been saving the SP since 1.5 for Proto Combat Rifles. Dodge a bullet there... or a hammer :p
Hopefully, they nerfed the AV damage just so that it ends up as nerfed as the vehicle HP, so that means they just scaled down ~1/3rd. In any case, they still need an Amarr AV weapon with heavy shield bias, we already have tons of Armor biased AV. Hoping the untouched Plasma Cannon will be able to pull its weight there now :3
Shields as Weapons
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