DUST Search - The transition from armor tanking to shield tanking

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

Hello all, as some of you may know, I'm an Amarr loyalist. With that so, I use strictly Amarr and Caldari tech.

Now I have been Amarr and an armor tanker since the suits were released. The main advantage with armor tanking I'd say is that I can equip damage mods in my highs to give my weapon extra punch. With armor tanking though, I've come to notice that when I engage an enemy I don't move...not even a little. I can literally stand stark still, take out the enemy knowing that he will likely not get through my armor to kill me before I kill him.

Well I have ADV Caldari Assault suits, lvl V in shield extenders and III in regulators with I or II in whatever that other shield skill is. I learned pretty quickly that standing stark still while engaging enemies as if I'm an armor tanker DOES NOT WORK - a militia AR took me out in I swear less than a second. The fact that I can't fit damage mods anymore really makes my GEK feel like it's shooting marshmallows - I'm in kill assist city. A positive is that I can fit more exciting things in my lows like profile dampeners and hacking modules, but I feel like I just get taken out SO quickly.

Basically I need advice, tips, pointers, whatever, to transition from armor tanking into shield tanking.

Armor tank only.
Even smart Caldari players Dual or Armor tank.
Playing differently will only make you suffer...

Balance would be brought if DAMAGE MODS would be available as a LOW SLOT too!
or CHANGED to be LOW SLOTS.

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Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1981	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:17:00 - [1] - Quote Hello all, as some of you may know, I'm an Amarr loyalist. With that so, I use strictly Amarr and Caldari tech. Now I have been Amarr and an armor tanker since the suits were released. The main advantage with armor tanking I'd say is that I can equip damage mods in my highs to give my weapon extra punch. With armor tanking though, I've come to notice that when I engage an enemy I don't move...not even a little. I can literally stand stark still, take out the enemy knowing that he will likely not get through my armor to kill me before I kill him. Well I have ADV Caldari Assault suits, lvl V in shield extenders and III in regulators with I or II in whatever that other shield skill is. I learned pretty quickly that standing stark still while engaging enemies as if I'm an armor tanker DOES NOT WORK - a militia AR took me out in I swear less than a second. The fact that I can't fit damage mods anymore really makes my GEK feel like it's shooting marshmallows - I'm in kill assist city. A positive is that I can fit more exciting things in my lows like profile dampeners and hacking modules, but I feel like I just get taken out SO quickly. Basically I need advice, tips, pointers, whatever, to transition from armor tanking into shield tanking. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5811	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:29:00 - [2] - Quote I've been having some success with shields on my Amarr suit. (!!!) Here's the fit: Imperial Scrambler Rifle Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Shield Regulator A-45 Quantum Scanner Tweak to taste. Basically, it plays to the strengths of shields - speed, and regen. Provided you're quick to duck out of combat, you can take advantage of the shield regen and you can use the extra speed to rush around and get to cover quickly. Never stand still. Ever. If you do, you'll probably die. The speed on this fit is amazing - faster than lolscouts, so you can really get around. It's excellent for fast responses in Skirmish, and I like to use it to help mop up there. If you feel you need more lulz, then you can downgrade a kincat to enhanced and run ZN-28 nova knives. It sounds batshit but it's actually fun to use, and knife kills are just so satisfying. You really have to take cover quickly and make your kills quickly - the SCR is ideal for this, tbh. It's a really fun thing to play though, very different from bricktanking armour. EDIT: Also, you're strictly an Amarr loyalist and use only Amarr/Caldari gear then talk about your GEK-38? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2777	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:32:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Hello all, as some of you may know, I'm an Amarr loyalist. With that so, I use strictly Amarr and Caldari tech. Now I have been Amarr and an armor tanker since the suits were released. The main advantage with armor tanking I'd say is that I can equip damage mods in my highs to give my weapon extra punch. With armor tanking though, I've come to notice that when I engage an enemy I don't move...not even a little. I can literally stand stark still, take out the enemy knowing that he will likely not get through my armor to kill me before I kill him. Well I have ADV Caldari Assault suits, lvl V in shield extenders and III in regulators with I or II in whatever that other shield skill is. I learned pretty quickly that standing stark still while engaging enemies as if I'm an armor tanker DOES NOT WORK - a militia AR took me out in I swear less than a second. The fact that I can't fit damage mods anymore really makes my GEK feel like it's shooting marshmallows - I'm in kill assist city. A positive is that I can fit more exciting things in my lows like profile dampeners and hacking modules, but I feel like I just get taken out SO quickly. Basically I need advice, tips, pointers, whatever, to transition from armor tanking into shield tanking. Armor tank only. Even smart Caldari players Dual or Armor tank. Playing differently will only make you suffer... Balance would be brought if DAMAGE MODS would be available as a LOW SLOT too! or CHANGED to be LOW SLOTS. WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5811	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:34:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Hello all, as some of you may know, I'm an Amarr loyalist. With that so, I use strictly Amarr and Caldari tech. Now I have been Amarr and an armor tanker since the suits were released. The main advantage with armor tanking I'd say is that I can equip damage mods in my highs to give my weapon extra punch. With armor tanking though, I've come to notice that when I engage an enemy I don't move...not even a little. I can literally stand stark still, take out the enemy knowing that he will likely not get through my armor to kill me before I kill him. Well I have ADV Caldari Assault suits, lvl V in shield extenders and III in regulators with I or II in whatever that other shield skill is. I learned pretty quickly that standing stark still while engaging enemies as if I'm an armor tanker DOES NOT WORK - a militia AR took me out in I swear less than a second. The fact that I can't fit damage mods anymore really makes my GEK feel like it's shooting marshmallows - I'm in kill assist city. A positive is that I can fit more exciting things in my lows like profile dampeners and hacking modules, but I feel like I just get taken out SO quickly. Basically I need advice, tips, pointers, whatever, to transition from armor tanking into shield tanking. Armor tank only. Even smart Caldari players Dual or Armor tank. Playing differently will only make you suffer... Balance would be brought if DAMAGE MODS would be available as a LOW SLOT too! or CHANGED to be LOW SLOTS. Confirming that forcing armour tankers to shield tank is bringing balance to shields/armour. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Funkmaster Whale Fatal Absolution 1260	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:35:00 - [5] - Quote Why in the hell you'd want to transition to shields is beyond me. I've been shields since day 1 and have always been a hit-and-run style player (~9.2 K/D) Up until armor buff/aim assist/hit detection, shields were viable because you could survive long enough to get behind cover. Now with ARs and ScRs taking out 500+ shields in less than a second it's not really as viable. I've begun switching to armor while keeping my same style of play (hit n run) and I'm amazed how longer I survive. Word of the wise: stay with armor. Shields are only good as a buffer now and should definitely NOT be your primary tanking choice, especially considering the nerf they're getting. Let me play you the song of my people!
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 397	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:40:00 - [6] - Quote Aside from using shield regulators... Either equip cardiac regulators or kinetic catalyzers [or both]. That will increase the movement advantage of using shields, allowing for better hit and run tactics... OR use profile dampeners. I know at least one person using an Amarrian suit with dampeners to great effect. Your shields will not go down if your enemies can't see you. Combine that with an Imperial... Well... an unaware enemy is easier to headshot.
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1982	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:45:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I've been having some success with shields on my Amarr suit. (!!!) Here's the fit: Imperial Scrambler Rifle Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Shield Regulator A-45 Quantum Scanner Tweak to taste. Basically, it plays to the strengths of shields - speed, and regen. Provided you're quick to duck out of combat, you can take advantage of the shield regen and you can use the extra speed to rush around and get to cover quickly. Never stand still. Ever. If you do, you'll probably die. The speed on this fit is amazing - faster than lolscouts, so you can really get around. It's excellent for fast responses in Skirmish, and I like to use it to help mop up there. If you feel you need more lulz, then you can downgrade a kincat to enhanced and run ZN-28 nova knives. It sounds batshit but it's actually fun to use, and knife kills are just so satisfying. You really have to take cover quickly and make your kills quickly - the SCR is ideal for this, tbh. It's a really fun thing to play though, very different from bricktanking armour. EDIT: Also, you're strictly an Amarr loyalist and use only Amarr/Caldari gear then talk about your GEK-38? Rail Rifle is coming the 10th, I just pretend it's a railgun rifle XD "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5812	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:51:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I've been having some success with shields on my Amarr suit. (!!!) Here's the fit: Imperial Scrambler Rifle Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Complex Shield Regulator A-45 Quantum Scanner Tweak to taste. Basically, it plays to the strengths of shields - speed, and regen. Provided you're quick to duck out of combat, you can take advantage of the shield regen and you can use the extra speed to rush around and get to cover quickly. Never stand still. Ever. If you do, you'll probably die. The speed on this fit is amazing - faster than lolscouts, so you can really get around. It's excellent for fast responses in Skirmish, and I like to use it to help mop up there. If you feel you need more lulz, then you can downgrade a kincat to enhanced and run ZN-28 nova knives. It sounds batshit but it's actually fun to use, and knife kills are just so satisfying. You really have to take cover quickly and make your kills quickly - the SCR is ideal for this, tbh. It's a really fun thing to play though, very different from bricktanking armour. EDIT: Also, you're strictly an Amarr loyalist and use only Amarr/Caldari gear then talk about your GEK-38? Rail Rifle is coming the 10th, I just pretend it's a railgun rifle XD I'm looking at speccing into the Calassault and using the rail rifle come 1.7, actually. Kaalakiota Rail Rifle Assault Scrambler Pistol Core Locus Grenade Complex Shield Extender x4/Complex Shield Extender x3 + Complex Shield Recharger/Complex Damage Modifier Complex Shield Regulator x2 Complex CPU Upgrade X-3 Quantum Nanohive That's the fit I'm thinking of using. I might add speed modules, I don't know yet. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.


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