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Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1714	Posted - 2013.12.05 13:59:00 - [1] - Quote They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1538	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:00:00 - [2] - Quote They already have a stacking penalty. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1151	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:00:00 - [3] - Quote Slower reload. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Kierkegaard Soren DUST University Ivy League 31	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:00:00 - [4] - Quote Additional weapon kick. Trade accuracy for power, and it reigns in full auto weapons smashing your suit to pieces from 60m away.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 219	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:01:00 - [5] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? There is already a penalty on the mods, more than one reduces each subsequent mod. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Clips A'hoy The Generals General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:03:00 - [6] - Quote The DMG mods already have a penalty, but they're not linear: The first module is 100% effective Second module is 87% effective Third module is 57% effective Fourth module is 28% effective I don't think the DMG mod penalty is serve enough really, it should have a side-effect. Maybe have lesser ammo capacity the more mods you stack? Or having a overheat function on your weapon just like the ScR, because honestly what in the world can make your weapon do more damage... Think about it... Getting hate mail by big corps makes my heart grow fonder.
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 59	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:05:00 - [7] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: Additional weapon kick. Trade accuracy for power, and it reigns in full auto weapons smashing your suit to pieces from 60m away. I actually really like this idea... Is that bad?
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2080	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:05:00 - [8] - Quote Damage modules should be active with a cool down period. Shield and armor repairing should do the same thing. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 90	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:19:00 - [9] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? they already have a penalty. its called stacking penalty and takes up a slot
taxi bastard Minor Trueblood 35	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:24:00 - [10] - Quote imo they should be ROF and damage. so the 10% damage on a proto mod would come from 5% to ROF and 5% damage increased ROF would mean quicker overheat and more movement when aiming. on top of that you would need to change the mag more often and use up more ammo so there is more of a trade off.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1597	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:27:00 - [11] - Quote How about no? My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1597	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:30:00 - [12] - Quote I don't think you realize this, but niche weapons rely on damage modifiers to outperform the "Jack-Of-All-Trades" weapons such as the Assault Rifle. Not everybody runs a Duvolle or Imperial/Carthum SCR, so you'd be gimping the only things that stand in the way between DUST 514 and COD 514. Damage mods already have penalties. They don't need another one. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 202	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:35:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: I don't think you realize this, but niche weapons rely on damage modifiers to outperform the "Jack-Of-All-Trades" weapons such as the Assault Rifle. Not everybody runs a Duvolle or Imperial/Carthum SCR, so you'd be gimping the only things that stand in the way between DUST 514 and COD 514. Damage mods already have penalties. They don't need another one. Honestly they do all you need to do is stack 2 complex and instead of a complex for 3rd use a enhanced it'll have full use. It should have another penalty that affects gameplay like most modules do We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1714	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:39:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: I don't think you realize this, but niche weapons rely on damage modifiers to outperform the "Jack-Of-All-Trades" weapons such as the Assault Rifle. Not everybody runs a Duvolle or Imperial/Carthum SCR, so you'd be gimping the only things that stand in the way between DUST 514 and COD 514. Damage mods already have penalties. They don't need another one. I know this, and my shotgun would suffer from this. But their has to be another way to balance the mod without blowing it for everyone else. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 281	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:40:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? There fine the way they are. All tho i think there should be a cap on how many you can use at one time. 3 possibly? The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me? Closed Beta Vet
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1597	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:41:00 - [16] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Atiim wrote: I don't think you realize this, but niche weapons rely on damage modifiers to outperform the "Jack-Of-All-Trades" weapons such as the Assault Rifle. Not everybody runs a Duvolle or Imperial/Carthum SCR, so you'd be gimping the only things that stand in the way between DUST 514 and COD 514. Damage mods already have penalties. They don't need another one. Honestly they do all you need to do is stack 2 complex and instead of a complex for 3rd use a enhanced it'll have full use. It should have another penalty that affects gameplay like most modules do -_- I don't think you realize this, but damage mods lower how much eHP you have, and are CPU intensive. Using 3 complex damage mods and a PRO weapon can easily mean that you have to have a CPU and/or PG extender there, meaning even more lost eHP. Just like shield tankers have a goodie in their low slots, armor tankers should also keep the goodies in their high slots. You can't have more gank without losing tank, so it's already balanced. And not every module needs to have a negative effect on gameplay, even though using damage mods usually does have a negative effect on gameplay. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 516	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:44:00 - [17] - Quote Terrible Thread is terrible. Do you even dust bro? {:)}{3GÇó>
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 313	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:54:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? Next time read the description of the thing you're QQing about before you start your QQ thread, k?
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1715	Posted - 2013.12.05 14:58:00 - [19] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: They are introducing a penalty tinkering shield mods, so maybe they should add one to dmg mods. Question is, what should the penalty be? Next time read the description of the thing you're QQing about before you start your QQ thread, k? Uhhh, just asking a question. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 191	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:07:00 - [20] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Atiim wrote: I don't think you realize this, but niche weapons rely on damage modifiers to outperform the "Jack-Of-All-Trades" weapons such as the Assault Rifle. Not everybody runs a Duvolle or Imperial/Carthum SCR, so you'd be gimping the only things that stand in the way between DUST 514 and COD 514. Damage mods already have penalties. They don't need another one. Honestly they do all you need to do is stack 2 complex and instead of a complex for 3rd use a enhanced it'll have full use. It should have another penalty that affects gameplay like most modules do This is not correct, regardless of tier, stacking penalties still apply, that third module as enhanced would receive 57% of 5% yielding only a benefit of 2.85%. Regardless if you aren't running AV two damage mods is really as high as you go. Third module and beyond you are better adding a extender/recharger/energizer unless you are full armor tanked.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4370	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:10:00 - [21] - Quote -Take up a slot -Take a fuckton of CPU and PG -Have a stacking penalty -Mathematically worse than shield extenders TTK wise Hey let's add a penalty! Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 496	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:23:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: -~~Take up a slot~~ -Take a fuckton of CPU and PG -Have a stacking penalty -Mathematically worse than shield extenders TTK wise Hey let's add a penalty! Everything takes up a slot
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:31:00 - [23] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cat Merc wrote: -~~Take up a slot~~ -Take a fuckton of CPU and PG -Have a stacking penalty -Mathematically worse than shield extenders TTK wise Hey let's add a penalty! Everything takes up a slot Yeah well, according to CCP, a single slot is good enough to be worth an extra 43049230420394903904293CPU on a suit :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.


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