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dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2031	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:57:00 - [1] - Quote Seeing a few strange threads about proto gear lately. People attempting to dictate how the game should be played, imposing artificial restrictions and whatnot. The objective is win. To win you leverage or manufacture every advantage you can. Period. This is the only rule. If someone has the SP investment and cash in pocket to drop protogear in matches, and they determine it provides and advantage, then they will. Arguments against using an advantage are shouting at the tide to **** off and leave your beach alone. I understand the frustration with 'protostompers' however your point of view is all wrong. Proto gear is not an I win button for the operator, but a chance to destroy something shiny for everyone else. Teamwork is OP, use it. mass driver haiku blam blam blam blam blam blam load ahhahahahah
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1132	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:58:00 - [2] - Quote Teamwork doesn't give people five highs and five lows with a gun that drops within a second. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8297	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:59:00 - [3] - Quote Some people just want an even playing field, can't blame them, that's what FPS games are usually about. Some people want the challenge. Some people are jelly. Everyone wants to play the game their own way, no harm in that. Also, it's just fun making fun of full proto squads in pubs cuz I mean, try hard much? Win ISK / Vids / O7
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2724	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:01:00 - [4] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. And those four highs three lows don't help you much when you're being shot by four guys at once. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8297	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:05:00 - [5] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. And those four highs three lows don't help you much when you're being shot by four guys at once. I blame scanners for that, I never once had any trouble being sneaky while playing solo, hell even now I do pretty well running BPO solo against proto squads, but scanners really just drive that nail into that proverbial coffin And now they're introducing a stronger than prototype scanner in Gallente LP store Win ISK / Vids / O7
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 333	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:05:00 - [6] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. Not saying anything about the modules slots, but... teamfire kills anything and everything fast, and in many circumstances, a proto suits dies to a standard weapon that catches it off guard, with TTK being what it is now. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 333	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:06:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. And those four highs three lows don't help you much when you're being shot by four guys at once. I blame scanners for that, I never once had any trouble being sneaky while playing solo, hell even now I do pretty well running BPO solo against proto squads, but scanners really just drive that nail into that proverbial coffin And now they're introducing a stronger than prototype scanner in Gallente LP store **** yeah, Gallente for the win! Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1135	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:07:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I blame scanners for that, I never once had any trouble being sneaky while playing solo, hell even now I do pretty well running BPO solo against proto squads, but scanners really just drive that nail into that proverbial coffin And now they're introducing a stronger than prototype scanner in Gallente LP store I feel for you scouts. I usually bait people who use scanners, but I use suits that can take hits long enough to do it. Light frames are just unable to do that, and I really do reach out to the scouts I run into on the field. The new scanner really is going to be a kick in a teeth for you guys, but it's not going to be common until a while from the launch of 1.7. Here's to it never being common, because scanners are teh sux. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 871	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:10:00 - [9] - Quote People need to realise DUST is (while not quite yet there) a sandbox game. Let me explain in simple terms what that means. We have a problem. Veteran players are using advanced gear to slaughter lesser players. Regular gaming solution: Create artificial blocks, add server filter options, protect each player group from the next. Sandbox solution: Look to real life for guidance. Why doesn't every soldier in every army have his own tank? Cost? Yes. All sorts of logistics? Yes. Impractical? Yes. Now we can copy some of those elements into our sandbox. We still want to allow players of all ranks to play together but we want to discourage them from creating too high of a wall within a single match. To do that we could make it impractical to use certain tiers in certain places, we could give higher tier suits some disadvantages as well. Many ways to solve this and keep the sandbox concept intact. Final words, DO NOT BREAK THE SANDBOX. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8299	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:11:00 - [10] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I blame scanners for that, I never once had any trouble being sneaky while playing solo, hell even now I do pretty well running BPO solo against proto squads, but scanners really just drive that nail into that proverbial coffin And now they're introducing a stronger than prototype scanner in Gallente LP store I feel for you scouts. I usually bait people who use scanners, but I use suits that can take hits long enough to do it. Light frames are just unable to do that, and I really do reach out to the scouts I run into on the field. The new scanner really is going to be a kick in a teeth for you guys, but it's not going to be common until a while from the launch of 1.7. Here's to it never being common, because scanners are teh sux. I'm actually a fatty Win ISK / Vids / O7

Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1135	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:13:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm actually a fatty Oh. Well. This is partially awkward, but I dampen my heavies and run around with Nova Knives. Still, heart goes out to the little paper people (scouts). SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2035	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:14:00 - [12] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: People need to realise DUST is (while not quite yet there) a sandbox game. Let me explain in simple terms what that means. We have a problem. Veteran players are using advanced gear to slaughter lesser players. Regular gaming solution: Create artificial blocks, add server filter options, protect each player group from the next. Sandbox solution: Look to real life for guidance. Why doesn't every soldier in every army have his own tank? Cost? Yes. All sorts of logistics? Yes. Impractical? Yes. Now we can copy some of those elements into our sandbox. We still want to allow players of all ranks to play together but we want to discourage them from creating too high of a wall within a single match. To do that we could make it impractical to use certain tiers in certain places, we could give higher tier suits some disadvantages as well. Many ways to solve this and keep the sandbox concept intact. Final words, DO NOT BREAK THE SANDBOX. This guy, he gets it. mass driver haiku blam blam blam blam blam blam load ahhahahahah
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4306	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:19:00 - [13] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: People need to realise DUST is (while not quite yet there) a sandbox game. Let me explain in simple terms what that means. We have a problem. Veteran players are using advanced gear to slaughter lesser players. Regular gaming solution: Create artificial blocks, add server filter options, protect each player group from the next. Sandbox solution: Look to real life for guidance. Why doesn't every soldier in every army have his own tank? Cost? Yes. All sorts of logistics? Yes. Impractical? Yes. Now we can copy some of those elements into our sandbox. We still want to allow players of all ranks to play together but we want to discourage them from creating too high of a wall within a single match. To do that we could make it impractical to use certain tiers in certain places, we could give higher tier suits some disadvantages as well. Many ways to solve this and keep the sandbox concept intact. Final words, DO NOT BREAK THE SANDBOX. Proto suits should cost much more. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1135	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:21:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Proto suits should cost much more. No. This would directly affect new protogear users in a much larger way than the current users. The problem is not the cost- it's how much money these people are making from a broken mechanic that allows them to carelessly throw that same protogear away. Increasing the price of protogear punishes newer players. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4306	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:22:00 - [15] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Proto suits should cost much more. No. This would directly affect new protogear users in a much larger way than the current users. The problem is not the cost- it's how much money these people are making from a broken mechanic that allows them to carelessly throw that same protogear away. Increasing the price of protogear punishes newer players. So if a proto suit cost a million each would you use it? I won't. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2424	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:24:00 - [16] - Quote Is the goal really to win? There is currently zero incentive in pub matches to actually win the match. And when I'm getting pub stomped I'll secure my team's loss by leeroying into the most expensive suit I can see over & over. My personal victories come in the form of Isk destruction. No.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1135	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:27:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So if a proto suit cost a million each would you use it? I won't. I have enough ISK to where it wouldn't matter. The only reason I don't use prototype gear is due to the sheer fact that I don't like how easy it is to use it, even on a gimped advanced frame. Hell, using a proto suit just makes my job way too easy. I'm going to use a figure of speech here. I don't like beating a kitten over the head with a hammer. I'd rather fisticuffs a goddamn tiger, man. I use standard because I'm not weak enough to use protogear on anything less than prototype itself. That's how I feel. I don't like easy moding. I come from a time where people bettered themselves by setting up handicaps. People these days lack the ability and balls to do that though. To each their own, I suppose. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Paran Tadec Imperfect Bastards 1715	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:27:00 - [18] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Seeing a few strange threads about proto gear lately. People attempting to dictate how the game should be played, imposing artificial restrictions and whatnot. The objective is win. To win you leverage or manufacture every advantage you can. Period. This is the only rule. If someone has the SP investment and cash in pocket to drop protogear in matches, and they determine it provides and advantage, then they will. Arguments against using an advantage are shouting at the tide to **** off and leave your beach alone. I understand the frustration with 'protostompers' however your point of view is all wrong. Proto gear is not an I win button for the operator, but a chance to destroy something shiny for everyone else. Teamwork is OP, use it. Posting logical and reasonable threads is not allowed in this forum. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8299	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:28:00 - [19] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'm actually a fatty Oh. Well. This is partially awkward, but I dampen my heavies and run around with Nova Knives. Still, heart goes out to the little paper people (scouts). No dampening, I'm just sneaky that way. I also run advanced scouts, I guess I'm just really good at positioning and timing. Scanners really throw a wrench in that skill for anything but entirely damped out scouts. Win ISK / Vids / O7
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 619	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:42:00 - [20] - Quote All hail OP, he has a good head on his shoulders. When I first started out with Foxhound Corporation...we were ADV-gear mercenaries running in squads against Proto-gear mercenaries in pubs. We didn't wine as much as these newbies. Nah. We did wine about the only advantage a squad having was Proto-gear but that was because we were capable of winning against these punks. You know what we did? Get picked our **** up and went Proto-and-beyond. These same guys are now some of the better players in Dust. Not top ten, sure but then they don't give a damn about that. :I I still meet up with these people and we actually use Militia to Advance-gear in pubs and stomp HARD. Teamwork is the major issue, not Proto Gear. If it was simply Proto Gear, I'd be afraid of the newb who was running a Gk.0 Logistics with high Damage Mods instead of gunning him down in cold blood with my militia fit. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1138	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:46:00 - [21] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. Four highs and three lows won't save your ass against teamwork.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1138	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:53:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Proto suits should cost much more. To compensate for that, rewards in PC should increase slightly. No. Just no. They are expensive enough. What is missing is an ISK-sink ... and this will change next week. There will still be players with too much money. So the next best thing to solve this is the playermarket. Let people throw away their money. When they start losing it they will be more careful about what they use.
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 494	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:21:00 - [23] - Quote honestly im not so entirely sure about the sandbox element the game supposedly has. a good customizable search parameter system would be nice. if there was specific type of gear restriction that came in the form of sp wp gear and squad type restricition. only as a customizable search parameters system so its all optional which gives the player a better choice. this could keep player retention along with several other things. although as this would just be optional and not forcing any1 to do anything. its not much of a massive restriction then. although it could just be gear first then other stuff can come along later. and this might even improve the numbers of players. although the possible consequences could be an increase in time it takes to find matches. so with the restrictions all set out and optional its not dividing the entire player base in game to only certain modes. its just adding several easily accessible doors. so pubstomps become a lot less common. as they couldnt just choose to bring a full corp fitted out with proto gear through a mlt only/no squad door just to stomp on players new to the game. they wouldnt be able to join as that door is locked to them protecting those players because those players within that door chose to set up that restriction for them selves.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1442	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:33:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Some people just want an even playing field, can't blame them, that's what FPS games are usually about. Some people want the challenge. Some people are jelly. Everyone wants to play the game their own way, no harm in that. Also, it's just fun making fun of full proto squads in pubs cuz I mean, try hard much? The best part is that most of them usually end up dying more than I do (while I am using a bpo suit). "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 280	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:52:00 - [25] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Teamwork doesn't give people four highs and three lows with a gun that drops within a second. You're right, It gives you 6 guns that drop within a second. Unless you literally mean "drop." In that case, your gun is covered with melted butter. Don't cover your gun with butter. Please. The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me? Closed Beta Vet
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5641	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:54:00 - [26] - Quote Lol @ artificial restrictions and people telling me how to play. Should I run only militia gear all day for a month and make another billion???? Too much isk is too much. I need to spend it somehow. Maybe when the new fw comes out, I will spend all my time on that.... It should be the biggest isk sink with some cool rewards. If I can beef up my pc suit some more without worrying about pg and cpu.... oh lord, I will become even more op than I was before! I wonder how many vets are going to switch over to fw completely to do their proto stomping.. Yes, It was me.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1305	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:04:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Some people just want an even playing field, can't blame them, that's what FPS games are usually about. Some people want the challenge. Some people are jelly. Everyone wants to play the game their own way, no harm in that. Also, it's just fun making fun of full proto squads in pubs cuz I mean, try hard much? I don't want a level playing field. Because what kills me will only make me stronger. If any mercs happen to not agree with that sentiment it's totally understandable, but it doesn't change the fact that i want to make blood sausages from their livers. I support SP rollover.


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