DUST Search - 1.7 respec discrimination.

Neo Hyperthron wrote:

daishi mk03 wrote:

Neo Hyperthron wrote:

daishi mk03 wrote:

Neo Hyperthron wrote:

So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp.

1. not implementable
2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into
3. typical racist DUST University opinion
4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS
5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls****
6. you are racist against pilots
7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them
8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen
9. you have not a single argument
10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un
11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death
12 you proud?

You're welcome.

Stop accusing me of racism, and comparing me to Kim Jong Un.

Stop discriminating tankers and behaving like Kim Jong Un.

Im serious stop it right now.

To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin.

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Neo Hyperthron DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:32:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1123	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:33:00 - [2] - Quote It's not. Their trees are getting changed, skills being removed, skills being added. Modules getting ripped out, added, changed. They're getting refunded. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1279	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:34:00 - [3] - Quote It begins. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3964	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:34:00 - [4] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. This is pathetic. Find something better to do. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Toby Flenderson research lab 132	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:35:00 - [5] - Quote No full respec needed, but I do like the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Otherwise a tanker could become a proto stomping infantry while no infantry would have the luxury of trying out vehicles. Don't give them a choice if no one else gets one.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 468	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:36:00 - [6] - Quote LOL this written by DUST University > my sides DUST University to hell hell and beyond > wtf am I reading >idiot.jpg To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Neo Hyperthron DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:38:00 - [7] - Quote So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1392	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:38:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: This is pathetic. Find something better to do. Your response is pathetic. His point is more than valid. Pilots can skill out of vehicles, but infantry can't skill into vehicles. Solution to that issue it to either only allow refunded SP to be used in the same role, which is likely impossible to do, or give everyone a full respec. What's even funnier is that the CPM agrees with this and has been pushing it to CCP, who refuses to listen to logic though. Overall, you're the pathetic one. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 217	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:40:00 - [9] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. Balac's , thats nothing like the meaning of discrimination. It's hardly CCP fault that YOU CHOSE, not to spec into vehicles. . __ `/.)\ Nade \| Scan Attempt Prevented \| 31 mill SP \__/ 514 \| NFP Prime League Winner\| Longest Kill 588 Mtr`
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3964	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:44:00 - [10] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: This is pathetic. Find something better to do. Your response is pathetic. His point is more than valid. Pilots can skill out of vehicles, but infantry can't skill into vehicles. Solution to that issue it to either only allow refunded SP to be used in the same role, which is likely impossible to do, or give everyone a full respec. What's even funnier is that the CPM agrees with this and has been pushing it to CCP, who refuses to listen to logic though. Overall, you're the pathetic one. Heavenly Daughter wrote: Balac's , thats nothing like the meaning of discrimination. It's hardly CCP fault that YOU CHOSE, not to spec into vehicles. This is pretty much my point. That's not what that word means, and he's the one who chose not to spec into them in the first place. Hell, I'm keeping my vehicle SP right where it is anyway. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

XxArrowxX Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 6	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:44:00 - [11] - Quote wait till the new guns come in maybe they will do a respec maybe if not keep posting this like 8 month of asking for it but i think there putting there foot down on this one and saying no full respec.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1392	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:47:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: This is pretty much my point. That's not what that word means, and he's the one who chose not to spec into them in the first place. Hell, I'm keeping my vehicle SP right where it is anyway. Pilots chose to skill into vehicles, yet can now skill out of them. Infantry can't skill into vehicles. Vehicles are changed, so pilots maybe not liking the changes and wanting to skill out of them is fine though, as long as infantry get the same option to skill into vehicles if they do like the changes. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 471	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:49:00 - [13] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. 1. not implementable 2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into 3. typical racist DUST University opinion 4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS 5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls**** 6. you are racist against pilots 7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them 8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen 9. you have not a single argument 10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un 11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death 12 you proud? You're welcome. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Neo Hyperthron DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:55:00 - [14] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. 1. not implementable 2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into 3. typical racist DUST University opinion 4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS 5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls**** 6. you are racist against pilots 7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them 8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen 9. you have not a single argument 10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un 11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death 12 you proud? You're welcome. Stop accusing me of racism, and comparing me to Kim Jong Un.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1321	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:57:00 - [15] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: This is pretty much my point. That's not what that word means, and he's the one who chose not to spec into them in the first place. Hell, I'm keeping my vehicle SP right where it is anyway. Pilots chose to skill into vehicles, yet can now skill out of them. Infantry can't skill into vehicles. Vehicles are changed, so pilots maybe not liking the changes and wanting to skill out of them is fine though, as long as infantry get the same option to skill into vehicles if they do like the changes. I have hylighted the bs , simply bs ........its not as if you don't gain any sp ever wow Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 471	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:58:00 - [16] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. 1. not implementable 2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into 3. typical racist DUST University opinion 4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS 5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls**** 6. you are racist against pilots 7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them 8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen 9. you have not a single argument 10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un 11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death 12 you proud? You're welcome. Stop accusing me of racism, and comparing me to Kim Jong Un. Stop discriminating tankers and behaving like Kim Jong Un. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1392	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:59:00 - [17] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I have hylighted the bs , simply bs ........its not as if you don't gain any sp ever wow It's not like pilots don't gain any SP either that they can then use to skill out of vehicles if they don't like the changes... Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Neo Hyperthron DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:01:00 - [18] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. 1. not implementable 2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into 3. typical racist DUST University opinion 4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS 5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls**** 6. you are racist against pilots 7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them 8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen 9. you have not a single argument 10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un 11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death 12 you proud? You're welcome. Stop accusing me of racism, and comparing me to Kim Jong Un. Stop discriminating tankers and behaving like Kim Jong Un. Im serious stop it right now.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2621	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:01:00 - [19] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. Vehicles are no longer anything resembling what they were before. That's like saying we are removing/refunding sidearms and adding punching combo skills and you must spend them thus. It doesn't matter how cool or balanced they are, it's still not a good idea to put that arbitrary restriction in place.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 472	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:02:00 - [20] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: So what is wrong with the idea of vehicle SP needing to remain vehicle SP. Explain this to me. Im not writing this on behalf of Dust University. This is my own opinion, not my corp. 1. not implementable 2. racist stuff to force tankers to use the new trash tanks, they never wanted and NEVER specced into 3. typical racist DUST University opinion 4. force tankers to USE THEIR HARD EARNED SP FOR NEW TRASH TANKS 5. just because you want a SP respec, because you put ur points into FOTM and bulls**** 6. you are racist against pilots 7. no pilot wants the new trash vehicles, they never specced into them 8. it's the most moderate possibility in a world where repecs never should happen 9. you have not a single argument 10. you can't force people into spending their SP somewhere, because YOU want to do it, hello Kim Jong Un 11. now you are also like a north korean dictator, who lets his people starve to death 12 you proud? You're welcome. Stop accusing me of racism, and comparing me to Kim Jong Un. Stop discriminating tankers and behaving like Kim Jong Un. Im serious stop it right now. Why you discriminate tankers? To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions

Sgt Buttscratch Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1081	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:05:00 - [21] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. Rather than just slight adjustments, logical adjustments to tanks and AV, they have nerfed them to hell and back. I could go into but vehicles are not too far out of whack when it came to AV. If anyone is being discriminated against its the tankers who like the current tanks, just not the invisible swarmers and dumb dmg av nades. I bet you can not give me one good reason that I should have to skill back into a vehicle that resembles the current soma with a 120mm nanofiber plate as standard. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1838	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:05:00 - [22] - Quote Full respec for all Im a vehicle pilot btw who got shafted with the new hungry hungry vehicle tree which requires 3x more the SP
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3964	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:09:00 - [23] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. Rather than just slight adjustments, logical adjustments to tanks and AV, they have nerfed them to hell and back. I could go into but vehicles are not too far out of whack when it came to AV. If anyone is being discriminated against its the tankers who like the current tanks, just not the invisible swarmers and dumb dmg av nades. I bet you can not give me one good reason that I should have to skill back into a vehicle that resembles the current soma with a 120mm nanofiber plate as standard. And there are some of you that obviously will not accept any other possibility than that your assets have been completely ruined before you even touch the update. Of course, thanks to this damn respec, now there will be bunches of you that won't even try militia vehicles after this patch, instead just making thread after thread about how CCP ****** you over until you finally make the inevitable quitting thread and then leave. The other possibility is that people who actually try things and are willing to adapt make vehicles that perform far better than they ever used to, and the angry whiners spec back into vehicles only to find that - SHOCKER - their old tactics don't work, and instead of asking for help with their fittings, they repeat the steps above and eventually leave. I love this community. I really do. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Neo Hyperthron DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:19:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. Rather than just slight adjustments, logical adjustments to tanks and AV, they have nerfed them to hell and back. I could go into but vehicles are not too far out of whack when it came to AV. If anyone is being discriminated against its the tankers who like the current tanks, just not the invisible swarmers and dumb dmg av nades. I bet you can not give me one good reason that I should have to skill back into a vehicle that resembles the current soma with a 120mm nanofiber plate as standard. So when pilots are being nerfed its ok for them to respec. But when one of the weapons or suits is being nerfed to "hell and back" all we hear is "DEAL WITH IT YOU FOTM CHASER".
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 153	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:22:00 - [25] - Quote If i don't get a respec after logi nerf then theres a problem.
Toby Flenderson research lab 132	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:05:00 - [26] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. Balac's , thats nothing like the meaning of discrimination. It's hardly CCP fault that YOU CHOSE, not to spec into vehicles. Just as it's their fault for speccing into them. The only difference is that pilots can change their mind now. I get that the skills won't exist anymore but they're being replaced by other vehicle skill trees. They're getting a full "cash" refund when they should be getting "store credit" for vehicle skills.
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 85	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:07:00 - [27] - Quote Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. sorry but terrible idea. vehicle users got screwed over worse than anything in dust. they shoulda had one a looooong time ago
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1397	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:11:00 - [28] - Quote chase rowland wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. sorry but terrible idea. vehicle users got screwed over worse than anything in dust. they shoulda had one a looooong time ago. not trying to hurt your feelings or anything but you sound selfish and ignorant. you should work on that my friend What about Scouts then? You could also argue that closed beta veterans have been screwed over by CCP so many times that they deserve not just one, but two respecs? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2714	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:12:00 - [29] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: pegasis prime wrote: I have hylighted the bs , simply bs ........its not as if you don't gain any sp ever wow It's not like pilots don't gain any SP either that they can then use to skill out of vehicles if they don't like the changes... trolololol post detected. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 85	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:16:00 - [30] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: chase rowland wrote: Neo Hyperthron wrote: Everyone should receive a respec with 1.7 update. OR skill points from vehicle respec should be allowed ONLY into vehicle skill tree. Otherwise its discrimination. sorry but terrible idea. vehicle users got screwed over worse than anything in dust. they shoulda had one a looooong time ago. not trying to hurt your feelings or anything but you sound selfish and ignorant. you should work on that my friend What about Scouts then? You could also argue that closed beta veterans have been screwed over by CCP so many times that they deserve not just one, but two respecs? I think scouts and heavies need one too. but they still didn't get screwed as bad as vehicles

THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 269	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:25:00 - [31] - Quote I would love to spend more time in these forums but its QQing idiocy such as the OP that makes it almost unbearable--I see ******** posts like this and I want to kill kittens. All I can do is take solace in the fact that you're not getting the respec you're after. Angels fight with devils and here's what they want from me, they're asking me to eliminate some of the vehicle hate, but if you take into consideration the bitter hatred I had then you may be a little patient and more sympathetic to the situation and understand the discrimination.


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