DUST Search - What we should do for pfc

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

SoLJae wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol.

I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules.

So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED.

Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU.

A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result.

I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter!

The actual problem is that people fight and don't whine enough, ccp needs to acknowledge pcs **** state and just overhaul it, theres no room to implement anything new with it except the timers, it needs to be completely overhauled because it doesn't even fit in with eve, its just a shtty game mode hosted in worthless space.

Pc are corp battles....better than pubs. Only issue is the framerate and I believe its becasue of equipment spam. They need to nerf the upllink spam

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DaNizzle4shizle The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 100	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote i honestly think that the huge corps should not attack without msging the ceo of the corp. if the ceo says go ahead, then do it. it's unfair to the smaller corps that need the training. these big corps are hogging a lot of the attacks. leaving the smaller corps helpless. or maybe pfc should expand to fittakan so there is more of a chance for the small corps to get the training they need. this is just an idea that i just was thinking. please don't hate on this. i just want to know what you guys think will help pfc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4IlVqtaXA
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 125	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:46:00 - [2] - Quote I think it should be expanded maybe like you suggested. 1 system can be for Top Corporations to train with Top Corporations & The other be for Small Corporations to train with the Small Corporations. Also I think everytime prior to a attack being made the CEO of The Attacker should msg the CEO of the Defending Corporation requesting permission to attack. I notice it's battle after battle with no real cease fire. I also think every defending corporation should try & have max clones. You spend 36 million always to attack, if you want to sell some clones tiil you have 36 million again I think you should be able to save up to it to get your money back then you can use it for trainning, PFC costs ISK & small/new/trainning corporations do not have billions of ISK. I think a new corporation should be formed by ALL top corporations then put commonly respected by everyone members (maybe just 3-5 from each top corporation) put into the corporation. Then have that newly formed corporation oversee all PFC activities & keep things in check. I'm sure all the top corporations can fond it.
Sentient Archon 1357	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:52:00 - [3] - Quote PFC has to die. It has to be burnt to the ground. Short and Sweet! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 173	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:00:00 - [4] - Quote just put a one mont limit for a corp on PFC before they have to give up their district for another corp that wants one i mean how much training more training could you need, you can get back on to PFC but you will have to wait because I'm pretty sure other corps want to get on PFC too
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1340	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:23:00 - [5] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: just put a one mont limit for a corp on PFC before they have to give up their district for another corp that wants one i mean how much training more training could you need, you can get back on to PFC but you will have to wait because I'm pretty sure other corps want to get on PFC too Good idea also corps with lots of districts shouldn't be allowed a PFC district. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 173	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:28:00 - [6] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: i honestly think that the huge corps should not attack without msging the ceo of the corp. if the ceo says go ahead, then do it. it's unfair to the smaller corps that need the training. these big corps are hogging a lot of the attacks. leaving the smaller corps helpless. or maybe pfc should expand to fittakan so there is more of a chance for the small corps to get the training they need. this is just an idea that i just was thinking. please don't hate on this. i just want to know what you guys think will help pfc. you cant give a whole system to training corps its not fair to corps not on PFC but in that system to give up district that they actually got the real way.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2145	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:46:00 - [7] - Quote PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:15:00 - [8] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. exactly. +2 if i had the option, so +1 will have to do.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1566	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:19:00 - [9] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So long as people with low standards keep making out that these laggy piece of ish wars are great and gg's, CCP will never acknowledge how broken and sht pc actually is, carebear timers not based on transport jumps, repetitive trash play and the most desperate teenybopping sht ever that is to induce lag with equipment. Seriously if its gotten to the point where people need to induce lag to win, maybe they should quit, that's a seriously sorry state of mind to be in. No doubt that scrubby desperate way of thinking will eventually saturate fw, I look at the new fw as pc minus all that trash but sht sticks, so no doubt people will induce lag in fw as well. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
SoLJae SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 497	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:40:00 - [10] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED. Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU. A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result. I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter!

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1566	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:55:00 - [11] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED. Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU. A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result. I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter! The actual problem is that people fight and don't whine enough, ccp needs to acknowledge pcs **** state and just overhaul it, theres no room to implement anything new with it except the timers, it needs to be completely overhauled because it doesn't even fit in with eve, its just a shtty game mode hosted in worthless space. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2152	Posted - 2013.12.04 18:22:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED. Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU. A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result. I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter! The actual problem is that people fight and don't whine enough, ccp needs to acknowledge pcs **** state and just overhaul it, theres no room to implement anything new with it except the timers, it needs to be completely overhauled because it doesn't even fit in with eve, its just a shtty game mode hosted in worthless space. Pc are corp battles....better than pubs. Only issue is the framerate and I believe its becasue of equipment spam. They need to nerf the upllink spam weRideNDie2getha since 2010
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1570	Posted - 2013.12.04 18:27:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED. Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU. A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result. I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter! The actual problem is that people fight and don't whine enough, ccp needs to acknowledge pcs **** state and just overhaul it, theres no room to implement anything new with it except the timers, it needs to be completely overhauled because it doesn't even fit in with eve, its just a shtty game mode hosted in worthless space. Pc are corp battles....better than pubs. Only issue is the framerate and I believe its becasue of equipment spam. They need to nerf the upllink spam Really? Oh damn who'd have known lol. Mechanics are sht, the whole thing is pure trash and needs an overhaul, fw come 1.7 will blow it into obscurity anyway. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2152	Posted - 2013.12.04 18:27:00 - [14] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PFC needs to burn.....None of these "new" corps really want to be in pc. None of them are launching outside of PFC. Look at the requests in this thread...."atackers should ask for permission to attack". Really? as if 24 hours notice isn't enough...and then what if the defending corp refuses? lol. I'd prefer to leave new or weaker corps alone that are outside of PFC than to continue to respect these PFC rules. So true, so true. The best thing is to burn PFC to the ground. Everybody wants to have their hand held now, to be PROTECTED. Whatever happened to the dog-eat-dog mentallity of New Eden? Whatever happened to the ethos of HTFU. A lot of mamby pamby players in this game fail to realize that getting your arse kicked in this game is the BEST training. You don't learn everything by winning and having it easy. You learn from losing to better players and adjusting your tactics, fits, etc. as a result. I'm sooooo glad that I'm in a corp that FIGHTS instead of whines, however, I speak for myself and do not represent SVER's stance in this matter! Best thing is for the community to just attack pfc districts. Let them have AE ring for them every game. Cause getting it back for them won't be enough. It's a mockery of pc. I would leave lower skilled corps alone as they build up if they're outside of pc. You can only get better by playing and losing or fighting for your life. When your district is at risk, then you go that much harder. You get emotional when you lose and you rejoice after a good win. Corps need to experience this.....some of them have been there for months, and for what? weRideNDie2getha since 2010
SoLJae SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 499	Posted - 2013.12.04 18:49:00 - [15] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You can only get better by playing and losing or fighting for your life. When your district is at risk, then you go that much harder. You get emotional when you lose and you rejoice after a good win. Corps need to experience this.....some of them have been there for months, and for what? That's it in a nutshell, dubbs. I can't think of a single corp, since the inception of PFC, who has arisen from this supposed training ground to make a name for themselves in PC proper. Of all the 'Big' players in PC, since there even WAS a PC, I can think of none that have started in PFC. It was a nice, liberal idea in theory, that turned out to be quite ineffective and much abused in practice.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1570	Posted - 2013.12.04 19:02:00 - [16] - Quote Pc is and will always be an isk farm, if that's ever going to change it needs an overhaul completely, I wish lag fixes would be enough but its really not, the mechanics are sht to the core and theres too much waiting and ta!king and all that jazz but the actual mode itself is trash. Iv said from the first mentions of PFC that it is on its own proof of how sht pc is, planetary conquest, with a PFC? If pc was even remotely worth playing there wouldn't be a PFC. Anyway what's separates pc from the new fw? New fw will lag less, earn new items, better eve link, more reason to actually bother. The only difference with pc is you get to farm isk, lag sht loads and have to wait to battle. You can polish a turd, but its still a turd, pc needs to be re worked. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 286	Posted - 2013.12.04 19:09:00 - [17] - Quote New corps starting out of PFC? That went well for Heimdallr right? Oh in his rage he bio massed his character that's right
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2153	Posted - 2013.12.04 19:56:00 - [18] - Quote DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: New corps starting out of PFC? That went well for Heimdallr right? Oh in his rage he bio massed his character that's right He did what he was supposed to....he fought his way in. If he went to PFC first.....he would've fought corps they were better than. They had 3 districts, I think. He could have been on PFC for a month and may still have had issues if he ventured outside of PFC. A good amount of corps have started outside of PFC. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2307	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:05:00 - [19] - Quote PC made great strides from the beginning of uprising until 1.4 or so. improvements in lag were seen each patch. sure it still was never to a level we would deem acceptable, but it was improving. then CCP gives more WP for equipment, and others learn the finer points of being able to drop framerate of the opposition by spamming equipment. that couple with a new map that is ALREADY a laggy POS (great map layout and a fresh change, just shoulda been yanked on day 1 when no one could survive a framedrop regardless of physical location) and since around 1.4 there have not only been NO improvements, but the whole arena has taken several steps backward. the whole 'isk farm' hoopla just needs a rest. that's a big reason behind the inception of PC in the first place. the latency is beyond embarrassing however. Its pretty obvious not a soul on the payroll for this company has actually experienced what we have seen over and over, and over, and over, and.. well u get the point Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
Bloodthirsty Heathen Talledos Inc 3	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:20:00 - [20] - Quote PFC is some serious bullsheet, how long some corps have been there? Let's cut to the chase, nobody wants to hand out their precious mine just like that, and a new corp want to be in PC, well buy a clone package and start attacking some districts. You will lose, then go to youtube and watch a lot of videos, learn from theory first, then you can practice in the FW without having to lose isk, then buy another clone package and grow some balls and stop trying to apply for welfare you ******* hippies. After working with so many corps in this game, I've only come to love those corps in the middle, the ones that have just the districts that they can handle, and the ones that will not go to the warm under the Big Dog Balls, even if they get beaten to a pulp, but always standing back up on their feet.

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2309	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:56:00 - [21] - Quote I like this guy ^^ Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
Morathi III Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2013.12.04 22:36:00 - [22] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: PC made great strides from the beginning of uprising until 1.4 or so. improvements in lag were seen each patch. sure it still was never to a level we would deem acceptable, but it was improving. then CCP gives more WP for equipment, and others learn the finer points of being able to drop framerate of the opposition by spamming equipment. that couple with a new map that is ALREADY a laggy POS (great map layout and a fresh change, just shoulda been yanked on day 1 when no one could survive a framedrop regardless of physical location) and since around 1.4 there have not only been NO improvements, but the whole arena has taken several steps backward. the whole 'isk farm' hoopla just needs a rest. that's a big reason behind the inception of PC in the first place. the latency is beyond embarrassing however. Its pretty obvious not a soul on the payroll for this company has actually experienced what we have seen over and over, and over, and over, and.. well u get the point Honestly when i saw PC was implemented directly at the official launch of the game, i knowed we were still in beta
DJINN Kujo Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 719	Posted - 2013.12.06 11:10:00 - [23] - Quote @Cubs: you should really invest in a new SSD if your still complaining about lag (to be fair though, I had an older SSD and was experiencing this 'lag' the community talks of, got a new one.... waalaaa! Problem solved) Ancient Exiles, CEO Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.


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