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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.03 19:30:00 -
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Can multiple eve pilots connect to the same district to give mass orbital support? Let's say there are 4 squads with squad leaders that have 4 eve pilots connect to the district at the same time, 3 minutes in the eve pilots gain the orbitals. Could each squad leader then call in an orbital strike? What if you have 8 eve pilots? After the 3 minutes could you have 8 orbitals? Or is there a limit to the number of pilots that can connect to a district? |
Brynjar Reko
State Patriots
30
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Posted - 2013.12.04 11:22:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Can multiple eve pilots connect to the same district to give mass orbital support? Let's say there are 4 squads with squad leaders that have 4 eve pilots connect to the district at the same time, 3 minutes in the eve pilots gain the orbitals. Could each squad leader then call in an orbital strike? What if you have 8 eve pilots? After the 3 minutes could you have 8 orbitals? Or is there a limit to the number of pilots that can connect to a district?
While I imagine this would be possible, there would be little reason for 4 EVE pilots in my mind to preside over a single match of Dust, though it is possible that even if they are all allied, only one starship can connect to the district satellite at a time.
Additionally, if 4 EVE pilots were involved in one match of Dust I imagine it would be likely that they would draw enemy attention and bring other EVE pilots, leaving the likelihood of one side maintaining the satellite even less likely. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
3107
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Posted - 2013.12.04 11:27:00 -
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You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots.
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MPX Shad
Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.04 12:46:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots.
So in other words, more then one pilot is just a waist...
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3964
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Posted - 2013.12.04 12:47:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots. You guys realize this has the effect of drastically reducing the number of possible orbitals in a match, right?
I mean, I know you wouldn't want to go with the 30-60 seconds that the timer in the Tournament was set to, but I think 3 minutes is a bit much.
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smartlayer
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.04 12:57:00 -
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then ; only one orbital strike each 3 minute : if there is 3 squad, which squad leader is allowed to ask the strike ? the first who ask win ? If the EvE pilot is allowed to refuse to do a strike, then if an EvE pilot who want to grief one faction come and connect to the district , he can deliver no strike at all ? the first to connect to the district beacon is the "master of the Orbital strikes" for the whole match ? (for Faction A) Then i bet that coming with 2 players one of each of the fighting faction , 1 to strike for faction A, the other to deny the possibility to call for strike for Faction B is a valid tactic ?
Pilot must stay within 2500m of the beacon still ? they are doomed to be sitting duck ? perhaps allowing more range could help them being able to defend a little bit more |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
258
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:03:00 -
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smartlayer wrote:then ; only one orbital strike each 3 minute : if there is 3 squad, which squad leader is allowed to ask the strike ? the first who ask win ? If the EvE pilot is allowed to refuse to do a strike, then if an EvE pilot who want to grief one faction come and connect to the district , he can deliver no strike at all ? the first to connect to the district beacon is the "master of the Orbital strikes" for the whole match ? (for Faction A) Then i bet that coming with 2 players one of each of the fighting faction , 1 to strike for faction A, the other to deny the possibility to call for strike for Faction B is a valid tactic ?
Pilot must stay within 2500m of the beacon still ? they are doomed to be sitting duck ? perhaps allowing more range could help them being able to defend a little bit more In my experience with Eve, FW is more of a big deal, so I doubt we will get griefers who refuse to drop OBs.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1838
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:03:00 -
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Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck |
gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:04:00 -
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As smart has said, we need more info on how this is going to work eve side. Was it the alliance tournament or fanfest where they had the control a zone above the planet to be awarded strikes, this would be cool, do it like that!
CCP have spent so long implementing this stuff, alot of the EVE players (like myself) have given up! |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
767
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:05:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck
No risk? There is always a risk of you losing your ship.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
767
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:05:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:As smart has said, we need more info on how this is going to work eve side. Was it the alliance tournament or fanfest where they had the control a zone above the planet to be awarded strikes, this would be cool, do it like that!
CCP have spent so long implementing this stuff, alot of the EVE players (like myself) have given up!
This is how it is done in 1.7. You connect to a beacon to gain OBs.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
950
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:07:00 -
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MPX Shad wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots. So in other words, more then one pilot is just a waist...
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steadyhand amarr
steadyhands independent mercenarys
2006
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:10:00 -
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In eve if some FW dude is being a doush u can just blow him up :-P so i doubt it will be an issue EvE players have long memories
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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:12:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck
The Beacons where matches are taking place are visible to all players. Anyone can come and kill you while ur sat there. I found that the majority of people doing OBs seem to fit Warp stabs, which is fine you fit ur stabs. I can fit 2 scrams. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1838
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:16:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck No risk? There is always a risk of you losing your ship.
Wrong
Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1838
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:17:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck The Beacons where matches are taking place are visible to all players. Anyone can come and kill you while ur sat there. I found that the majority of people doing OBs seem to fit Warp stabs, which is fine you fit ur stabs. I can fit 2 scrams.
Wrong
Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
767
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck No risk? There is always a risk of you losing your ship. Wrong Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems
Still a risk, even if it is small!
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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:23:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:gobbybobbyy wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck The Beacons where matches are taking place are visible to all players. Anyone can come and kill you while ur sat there. I found that the majority of people doing OBs seem to fit Warp stabs, which is fine you fit ur stabs. I can fit 2 scrams. Wrong Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems
This just isn't true. Neutrals (non fac war players) generally come in and out all the time, and if they see a district up there prob gonna warp to it,
Ok yea theres a few dead end out the way systems with less traffic. Not all the fac war battles will take place in these systems
What should happen is systems with more Plexing (eve pilots doing stuff in them) should come up more than the dead end systems with little or no plexing happening in them. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1839
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:33:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:gobbybobbyy wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck The Beacons where matches are taking place are visible to all players. Anyone can come and kill you while ur sat there. I found that the majority of people doing OBs seem to fit Warp stabs, which is fine you fit ur stabs. I can fit 2 scrams. Wrong Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems This just isn't true. Neutrals (non fac war players) generally come in and out all the time, and if they see a district up there prob gonna warp to it, Ok yea theres a few dead end out the way systems with less traffic. Not all the fac war battles will take place in these systems What should happen is systems with more Plexing (eve pilots doing stuff in them) should come up more than the dead end systems with little or no plexing happening in them.
Generally its passing through to get somewhere
Sometimes pirates will do this but i didnt see too much of it and i always used d-scan back in the day
If EVE hasnt changed so the districts spawning are in the front line then it will suck, but also high plexed systems they can be back and well away from the actually frontline because of the plexers who always plex well away from getting shot
It depends how they have changed it, either way no WP for a strike and all they have to do is sit on a button, tiz easy |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
1924
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:39:00 -
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This will ensure that OB spammage wont happend with multiple squads on the same team. And if eve pilots get LP for providing OB's you will deffo get support. But there is aswell the carebear side of eve where nobody wants to risk their ship.
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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:50:00 -
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my sec status has been +5.0 for too long, when they update goes live in gonna go searching for people sat on districts, prob take an Assault frig thanks to the warp speed changes, no doubt I will have to be double scram fit to catch all you people who think Warp stabs are gonna save you. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
757
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Posted - 2013.12.04 14:10:00 -
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MPX Shad wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots. So in other words, more then one pilot is just a waist... looks like.
the support fleet would be more valuable than the OB ship, the bombardment and the payout of everyone combined in the match.
good news is I just ran a basic fit in EFT with maxxed skill (I have no idea what the minimum is I didn't bother running it with my api) cloaking up a dessy is a viable option so if nothing else there is an escape plan.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
952
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:00:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Every 3mins a free OB with no risk
I hope that FW is changed in EVE but then again with 1 faction winning all the time any districts in the backwaters means the side which owns the backwater will be able to sit on the button uncontested for the whole match and whack in upto at least 6 OB if the match is 20min long
If WP isnt needed for this OB mechanic then its gonna suck No risk? There is always a risk of you losing your ship. Wrong Not if the planet is in your backwater systems which you own anyways with next to no enemys in the next 5surrounding systems
it doesn't sound very much like you fly space ships. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
952
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:01:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:my sec status has been +5.0 for too long, when they update goes live in gonna go searching for people sat on districts, prob take an Assault frig thanks to the warp speed changes, no doubt I will have to be double scram fit to catch all you people who think Warp stabs are gonna save you.
bring it :) |
Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
390
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Posted - 2013.12.04 19:30:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:You get 1 orbital strike every 3 minutes if uncontested. More pilots does not make this go quicker or unlock additional strikes, but having more friends at the satellite will help make sure they don't get attacked by enemy pilots. Ah cool thank you CCP Nullarbor I appreciate the answer |
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