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HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4043	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:11:00 - [1] - Quote After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8241	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:13:00 - [2] - Quote While it definitely sucks, I'm more concerned with a new, stronger than prototype scanner....poor scouts ISK / Vids / Stream
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1102	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:14:00 - [3] - Quote I'm still going to use the HMG heavy. Because **** material rewards. I fight for the Federation and my Minmitar allies. I don't need shiiiiiiiit to encourage me to do so. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1183	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:14:00 - [4] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? Well, I think Heavies will fight for Amarr/Gallente mainly because of armors, but yes, I do agree that weapons are mainly for the "rifle brigade" . __ `/.)\ spamming these = you have no opinion in anything Dust 514 related` \ __ /
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1498	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:18:00 - [5] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? CCP loves the medium frames, and only the medium frames. If you are not in a medium frame, CCP does not care about you at all. That is why I turned my heavy into an Amarr logi with an AR, so I can feel like CCP actually wants me to play this game. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 159	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:21:00 - [6] - Quote I posted this in the other thread "we have 219 items in the store", Please tell me how many he listed. Fix the Plasma Cannon and increase direct damage 2x, it's a AV and AI weapon not AI-Have a PS4 so...
Makuta Miserix Better Hide R Die 191	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:23:00 - [7] - Quote You guys realize they said there are 219 items in the LP Market right? You guys are jumping the gun a bit here. Edit: Ninja'd by Galthur. This is why we can't have nice things.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4043	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:23:00 - [8] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? CCP loves the medium frames, and only the medium frames. If you are not in a medium frame, CCP does not care about you at all. That is why I turned my heavy into an Amarr logi with an AR, so I can feel like CCP actually wants me to play this game. I hear you I hung up the HMG heavy finally too. Am running the scrambled rifle withan adavnced suit nd doing way better than my 1600+ HP suit with the baddest gun in the game the hmg thats so bad ass it needs its own heavy suit just to be able to wield it.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:25:00 - [9] - Quote Most of the items are probably AR variants. AR 514 Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8244	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:25:00 - [10] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: The Attorney General wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? CCP loves the medium frames, and only the medium frames. If you are not in a medium frame, CCP does not care about you at all. That is why I turned my heavy into an Amarr logi with an AR, so I can feel like CCP actually wants me to play this game. I hear you I hung up the HMG heavy finally too. Am running the scrambled rifle withan adavnced suit nd doing way better than my 1600+ HP suit with the baddest gun in the game the hmg thats so bad ass it needs its own heavy suit just to be able to wield it. I gave up my HMG fits a long time ago, they are exceptionally situational when you consider rifles often do the same thing but better ISK / Vids / Stream

Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1701	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:30:00 - [11] - Quote Because a Minmatar Store carrying Amarr Gear is odd. Particularly so when you get rewards for winning battles against the Amarr. And vice versa. Refunding a few AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore
Ku Shala Exiled Veteran Elite 680	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:30:00 - [12] - Quote they are all market items with less fitting cost big whoop untill the market is open most of it is just junk anyway First General of Exiled Veteran Elite Loyalty Is not always rewarded Serving Caldari State
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8246	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:34:00 - [13] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Because a Minmatar Store carrying Amarr Gear is odd. Particularly so when you get rewards for winning battles against the Amarr. And vice versa. Heavy machine gun is Minmatar tech.... ISK / Vids / Stream
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1500	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:34:00 - [14] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I hear you I hung up the HMG heavy finally too. Am running the scrambled rifle withan adavnced suit nd doing way better than my 1600+ HP suit with the baddest gun in the game the hmg thats so bad ass it needs its own heavy suit just to be able to wield it. Just for laughs, I was running around with a Logi from my corp so I decided to put together an actively repped fat suit with a duvolle. Many laughs were had, and many enemies roflstomped. I put it away out of disgust, and respect for the real heavies who remember what it was like to be a force to be reckoned with instead of AR bait. I only started playing this game because of the heavy class. If I had known they were going to turn the class into specialized AV only, I would have quit a long time ago. The only HMG fit I have in my fittings menu is my Gastuns fit. Given the option, I would rather run a duvolle on an advanced suit than a Gastuns on a heavy frame. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1335	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:52:00 - [15] - Quote It has been said in a few threads and ignored but here we go again. They said there is 219 items in the LP store so I highly doubt that was all of the weapon variants, more than likely they just posted a short list to avoid having a huge list in the middle of an already large dev blog. Hopefully a dev will pop up and say something to that effect. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1310	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:54:00 - [16] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? armor plates. You'll be able to squeeze more modules onto your suit that otherwise you might not have been able to. Marston VC, STB director
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1558	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:57:00 - [17] - Quote Galthur wrote: I posted this in the other thread "we have 219 items in the store", Please tell me how many he listed. This, and I only skimmed the notes lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1502	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:57:00 - [18] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: It has been said in a few threads and ignored but here we go again. They said there is 219 items in the LP store so I highly doubt that was all of the weapon variants, more than likely they just posted a short list to avoid having a huge list in the middle of an already large dev blog. Hopefully a dev will pop up and say something to that effect. So the weapon list includes every primary class except the heavy weapons because.....? Also, pay close attention to the text above that list. Quote: Here is a list of the new weapons we are adding: Federation Duvolle Specialist Assault Rifle Federation CreoDron Specialist Shotgun Federation Allotek Specialist Plasma Cannon Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle Republic Freedom Specialist Mass Driver Imperial Viziam Specialist Laser Rifle Imperial Specialist Scrambler Rifle State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle State Wiyrkomi Specialist Swarm Launcher Notice how it doesn't say some of the weapons we are adding? I would not be betting on specialist heavy weapons. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Forlorn Destrier 2233	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:58:00 - [19] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? Why do you think there are no rewards for the Heavy? The devblog stated there were 219 items being added - it only gave a few example. Methinks you are jumping to conclusions, sir. I would encourage patience to see what is in the store when it is released next week instead of fanning flames. Chivalry is not dead, but many who practiced it are.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1503	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:06:00 - [20] - Quote Marston VC wrote: armor plates. You'll be able to squeeze more modules onto your suit that otherwise you might not have been able to. Any change to armor plates would be just as beneficial, if not more so, to medium frames than heavies. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.

Oswald Rehnquist 765	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:32:00 - [21] - Quote On one of the eve side notes there was an Amarr manufacturer of the forge gun Below 28 dB
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1320	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:47:00 - [22] - Quote Calm your Tit's people. I am on the EVE Sisi(Test server) looking at all the items on all loyatly stores. There are "Republic Boundless HMG's" in the minimatar store and "Imperial Sentential AK.0" in the Amarr store Amarr Dual tanking is a sin Listen when playing dust for 25% KDR improvement
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8248	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:49:00 - [23] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Calm your Tit's people. I am on the EVE Sisi(Test server) looking at all the items on all loyatly stores. There are "Republic Boundless HMG's" in the minimatar store and "Imperial Sentential AK.0" in the Amarr store Could you do me a solid and see what they have for vehicles? ISK / Vids / Stream
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3198	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:50:00 - [24] - Quote I'm pretty sure the examples given were just for Assault Rifles. There should be HMGs in Miinmatar LP store and Forgeguns in Caldari store. Still though, heavies are ****** because each race requires another race to be a heavy. While Gallente has nothing heavy related....because your bodies are not yet ready to be raped that brutally.
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 188	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:52:00 - [25] - Quote no point of pilots be couse not faction tanks or drpoship or eny of the moduels "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1320	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:53:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Calm your Tit's people. I am on the EVE Sisi(Test server) looking at all the items on all loyatly stores. There are "Republic Boundless HMG's" in the minimatar store and "Imperial Sentential AK.0" in the Amarr store Could you do me a solid and see what they have for vehicles? Both Cal and Gal have all 3 standard vehicles(lav,hav and dropship) listed in their stores with ether "Federation" or "State" in front of them. Turrets the Cal has missile turrets grades std-proto and Gal has blasters std-proto grade. No rails to be seen those. No vehicle modules ether. Amarr Dual tanking is a sin Listen when playing dust for 25% KDR improvement
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 274	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:55:00 - [27] - Quote Galthur wrote: I posted this in the other thread "we have 219 items in the store", Please tell me how many he listed. The 219 items have been explained by FoxFour in his thread on FW changes. They are simply LP equivalent items of all Aurum items. The list of nine specialist items with reduced fitting costs is the complete one, ie., it's a medium suit love fest Well, snipers aren't getting anything either. Like for feck sake the Plasma cannon is getting a specialist variant The fact is us heavies are getting screwed as usual with no love from CCP. I can't wait to dig into the new FW, but was it to much to ask for a HMG specialist variant to give something to tide us over.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4044	Posted - 2013.12.03 18:57:00 - [28] - Quote OK so a we have an amarr heavy suit an a minmatar weapon. Please tell me that armor plates are at least amarr?
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1320	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:00:00 - [29] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: OK so a we have an amarr heavy suit an a minmatar weapon. Please tell me that armor plates are at least amarr? Both Amarr and Gal have Armor plates in their stores. Also Amarr have Heavy Damage Mods(Only LP store to have it) Amarr Dual tanking is a sin Listen when playing dust for 25% KDR improvement
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4044	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:02:00 - [30] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: OK so a we have an amarr heavy suit an a minmatar weapon. Please tell me that armor plates are at least amarr? Both Amarr and Gal have Armor plates in their stores. Also Amarr have Heavy Damage Mods(Only LP store to have it) So at this point if the hMG does not get its weapon fixed in 1.7 only smart diehards will play for amarr?

Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1311	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:28:00 - [31] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Marston VC wrote: armor plates. You'll be able to squeeze more modules onto your suit that otherwise you might not have been able to. Any change to armor plates would be just as beneficial, if not more so, to medium frames than heavies. I would argue that its more beneficial to heavies because heavies are far more prone to using armor plates then most other suits (aside from gallente mediums). But I mean...... yeah..... every weapon and module can be used for every suit...... just because there isn't an HMG doesn't mean heavies get stunted out of anything. And its not like heavies aren't getting any love, they got buffed literally three weeks ago. Marston VC, STB director
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 50	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:38:00 - [32] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Calm your Tit's people. I am on the EVE Sisi(Test server) looking at all the items on all loyatly stores. There are "Republic Boundless HMG's" in the minimatar store and "Imperial Sentential AK.0" in the Amarr store This man gave the answer, also i think sidearms will be added. Also he said calm your Tit's which is a beautiful image. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4046	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:35:00 - [33] - Quote Let's say the hmg gets it fiercnesss back and the weapon has a wider spread again. The amount of blueberys jumping in front of it may cause booting issues. The HMG has the right of way!
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1312	Posted - 2013.12.04 02:26:00 - [34] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Let's say the hmg gets it fiercnesss back and the weapon has a wider spread again. The amount of blueberys jumping in front of it may cause booting issues. The HMG has the right of way! Well I mean..... the threat of any BB jumping in front of any gun is about as likely to happen to anyone as it is an HMG. Though I would argue that its less likely to happen to an HMG user because you'll almost always be hipfiring and therefore will have a larger FOV, allowing you to stop shooting should a BB look like hes going to be a noob. Marston VC, STB director
Thanatus Sleep 56	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:31:00 - [35] - Quote lot of AR heavies ~~this~~ these days Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame. Whatever the cost. > Warrior Doctor
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:33:00 - [36] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: After the new devblogs it seems that FW is designed for the rifle brigade. No rewards for the heavy suit and no weapons? It just seems odd that we would be so blatantly left out of the rewards system? Is this a statement from CCP that the HMg/Heavy is being removed? Don't make me cry...
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:36:00 - [37] - Quote Marston VC wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Marston VC wrote: armor plates. You'll be able to squeeze more modules onto your suit that otherwise you might not have been able to. Any change to armor plates would be just as beneficial, if not more so, to medium frames than heavies. I would argue that its more beneficial to heavies because heavies are far more prone to using armor plates then most other suits (aside from gallente mediums). But I mean...... yeah..... every weapon and module can be used for every suit...... just because there isn't an HMG doesn't mean heavies get stunted out of anything. And its not like heavies aren't getting any love, they got buffed literally three weeks ago. But the high TTK rendered that buff useless.
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 692	Posted - 2013.12.04 04:05:00 - [38] - Quote CCP wont give LP hmg because only the minmatar have heavy weapons, meaning that only their lpstore would have HMG what means that ALL Heavies would be fighting for minmatar "Fight Togheter; Win Together" Duster Since: July 2012 Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot


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