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DEZKA DIABLO
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.01 13:58:00 -
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As a scout since jan, I have both the minmatar an gallente proto, an I never paid attention before to scan range but how many meters is each ring?
Because I seriously can't how broken this seems to be, if I have mods on I can see well but I get gunned down from 60+m, if I don't have mods on I get shot in the back by a heavy noob with a shotgun, it's getting the best of me honestly.
I deleted all my fits out of irritation to this an started comparing them, making all sorts of combination s an my conclusion is that in the curant state of the game scouts are up more than ever, can't hide, can't run, can't out maneuver an strafe for a kill, noobs can wreck my 30 mill sp from 60+ m with absolute accuracy.
The minmatar scout, is the most worthless suit in the game an will never get buffed after half a year of waiting, an the gallente I've noticed is better with more options but still close to the same uselessness .
Let's face it speed an endurance has been nerfed to oblivion, which has left stealth tanking an being slow your option since trading shots is unfathomable considering med frame have well over a 1000 HP in some cases or there armor tanked rocking ten damage mods.
So why is it that scouts in the future only get 16 m scan? Is this the be all end all of the Long awaited scout buff? Because sure you can fit two range on a gallente, profile damp an whatever else at proto, but even then your either fast with no endurance, endurance no speed, armor , an no reps or speed or endurance, or one of each but missing something vital, then you have people still killing you outside your radius, an of your minmatar forget about it, you have no options even comparable to a barely better gallente.
So ccp are you gonna see how catch 22 you designed the suit or was 6 extra meters all the love we get? I need to know, I've been loyal for months , spent mOney an been patient.
An if anyone read the novels please explain ring distance on tac an the proper way to multiply the mods so I can figure out scan distance passive an with mods.
Both scouts are proto, range, precision 3, pd 4
Isnt gallente radius bonus, is that 360GÇó or just field of vision?
I gotta rethink my fits post some good ones, thanks for reading. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
531
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:19:00 -
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I believe each ring is 50m. As when I use a standard scanner (i.e not flux) it goes to about the same distance.
With range amplification the scout scan radius is 24m (36m for the Gal) , which isn't to be sniffed but has little use on its own.
After that the first mod if 100% effective. THe second is around 86 / 87% percent (I never bother to do it accurately) here for ref.
The passive scan is 360-¦ but you also have vision that will put players on the tac net
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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DEZKA DIABLO
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:22:00 -
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So if I have lv 3 range an proto min an proto gallente what's my scan or ring passively for both suits, and how does the gallente 10%radius work?
Is that 360? Or does it work different than the range? |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
531
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:31:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:So if I have lv 3 range an proto min an proto gallente what's my scan or ring passively for both suits, and how does the gallente 10%radius work?
Is that 360? Or does it work different than the range?
lvl 3 scan range = 20.8m (16 x 1.3 - i.e + 30%)
With pro Gal scout thats 31.2m (16 x 1.3 x 1.5 - an extra 50%)
After that the first mod is added at 100% effectiveness
The tac net radar is fixed at a max of 100m (with a 50m ring in the middle, range amp does not alter that)
if your in cover and an enemy is in range they will be placed on your tac net radar. In any direction
(I have found it useful for when I'm sniping and someone comes to try to take me out. If I'm in the right location I can 'spot' them even if they try to come behind me)
I believe field of vision scan is fixed at 80m and overcomes all dampening - you've spotted them after all
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
931
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:37:00 -
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If you're not a gallente scout (not talking about basic light suit) then you really should be using an ADV or PRO Active Scanner.
Gallente scout imo, benefit the most of the scan radius buff since they get +50% more from dropsuit bonus.
General consensus on how CCP does additive skill %s is with multiplication, ie. 2 +50% will turn into n x 1.5 x 1.5, n being the constant variable. 16 base scan radius with 2 +50% skills will come out to:
16 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 36 scan radius before you factor in range mods.
In your case, 16 x 1.3 for your min, and 16 x 1.3 x 1.5 for your gallente (assuming you're talking about gallente scout and not basic light dropsuit which has no bonus)
Scan radius is 360 degree detection, field of view lets you scan for targets outside of your scan radius by painting your target with your crosshair. If I'm not mistaken, scan precision does effect what you see depending on the profile of your target.
If you want to research your radar map, it really isnt hard. Just play a game and look for something stationary like a turret, then track the distance of the turret for each ring and hover your crosshair over it to reveal the distance. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2021
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Posted - 2013.12.01 14:56:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:The TACNET display is the radar in the top left of your screen. When you are not in a vehicle the first ring is at 20 meters, the second at 65 m and the maximum range is 100 m. I haven't tested vehicles yet. Visual range is 30 degrees off axis to about the first tick mark past the second ring or around 80 m.
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