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Ryder Azorria wrote:

Eris Ernaga wrote:

Ryder Azorria wrote:

Serious case of rose tinted glasses - just saying.

Yes, Uprising had a 'troubled' start, and yes somethings are worse than before (read: TTK) - but mechanics wise the game is far, far ahead of chromo (that's the main reason for the TTK issues, the game was balanced around NOT working. now that it does, there are issues).

That being said, the idea about sending the devs of to actually shoot things is a damn good one. Maybe the AR will finally get some recoil.

Lol you know nothing about Dust do you? The gun game in Chromosome was solid, aiming especially and hit detection was fine Uprising broke all that. The problem with Uprising was the aim it was terrible so they added aim assist after they broke the aiming. Look at the Chrome video the person has no problem aiming or hitting targets and there's no aim assist.

One whole video, wow...

Just because the stars aligned every now and then to create a good match doesn't mean the hit detection in chromo actually worked, or that frame rate / lag wasn't an issue in all game modes, or that the aiming was even all that good (although that one is more subjective to be fair), or that the toned down aim assist is even a problem any more (every console shooter has it, there is a reason for this), or that...

Also, playing since September 2012 - so not the oldest player around, but I've seen my fair share of bad builds.

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Eris Ernaga State Patriots 821	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:09:00 - [1] - Quote Chromosome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZI6msPfY7Y Great footage. Uprising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXa5GZszk8 Compare. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3094	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:10:00 - [2] - Quote Oh how I miss my silver protoype Duvolle :(
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 821	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:11:00 - [3] - Quote And nothings falling apart. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 601	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:12:00 - [4] - Quote I want those iron sights back SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 821	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:13:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh how I miss my silver protoype Duvolle :( I've also noticed that there are a lot of sounds errors did you hear the way that orbital came in? Beautiful. All in all this game was very stable back then and you'd see me rolling down the road in my Sagaris. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 821	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:13:00 - [6] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: I want those iron sights back I want the aiming back + no aim assist. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3094	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:14:00 - [7] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: I want those iron sights back Those were the worst AR sights out of all of them to me.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 274	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:18:00 - [8] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: I want those iron sights back get out
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 286	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:19:00 - [9] - Quote Second one would feel great being him, but god damn that SCR just does too much damage Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3170	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:20:00 - [10] - Quote Back when strafing mattered and hmg heavies were scary GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 603	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:20:00 - [11] - Quote TTK was perfect SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 603	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:21:00 - [12] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: I want those iron sights back get out back when you actually used them now its just hipfire for 50 meters SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 823	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:22:00 - [13] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: Second one would feel great being him, but god damn that SCR just does too much damage Aim assist. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 823	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:22:00 - [14] - Quote Lets all watch youtube footage of Chromosome and hold hands crying wishing for the old times. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 227	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:27:00 - [15] - Quote Well i fear the biggest issue with the uprising video is that the video is of someone using very op gear, and to who said they want the AR sights back why they are pistol sights, the sights the current AR have are far more useful for a rifle. While i welcome the addition of new gear to the game that is basicly what went wrong back in chomosome there was only roles not suits there was no crazy op suits like when uprising came out first there was the brick tank cal logi now gal logi is new flavor of the month. My point is to revert back to that build it would be to many steps back to fix the current suit balance.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1422	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:54:00 - [16] - Quote Chromosome - I forgot how fluid it was Uprising - Why have I not specced those Imperials? Cheeseburgers.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 376	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:03:00 - [17] - Quote The AR did and still melts people like butter. Grenade spam + Duvolle AR will always be king. Nothing to see here, seems like business as usual to me. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Ridire Greine 147	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:05:00 - [18] - Quote Well, its pretty evident from that clip, that Nade spam was still popular in Chrome. I probably didn't notice it as much, because I was in my cozy Gunnlogi, but now I'm just running around in my pyjamas. Property of Knight SoiaireGäó Onikanabo Brigade [VGTG]
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3099	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:12:00 - [19] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Well, its pretty evident from that clip, that Nade spam was still popular in Chrome. I probably didn't notice it as much, because I was in my cozy Gunnlogi, but now I'm just running around in my pyjamas. Nade spam is the one thing that's been consistent throughout DUST and that's saying a lot.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 826	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:23:00 - [20] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: The AR did and still melts people like butter. Grenade spam + Duvolle AR will always be king. Nothing to see here, seems like business as usual to me. Those we're pub games it shows that CCP hasn't been able to solve simple problems in the game. Chrome was their time to solve them now it's just outrageous. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.

Funkmaster Whale Fatal Absolution 1226	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:28:00 - [21] - Quote This game took a step back when aim assist was upgraded. Let me play you the song of my people!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 828	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:30:00 - [22] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: This game took a step back when aim assist was upgraded. When Uprising was first released aiming all together was broken they claimed to have made it better however it was never up to Chrome standards. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1060	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:36:00 - [23] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Funkmaster Whale wrote: This game took a step back when aim assist was upgraded. When Uprising was first released aiming all together was broken they claimed to have made it better however it was never up to Chrome standards. agreed. aiming has been way sloppy with hit detection problems for most of the life of uprising, but with aim assist.. it's a horrible band aid. It just doesn't feel like a solid shooter at all. I think the developers should go out and actually learn to shoot firearms. Take note of the POV they have when they use handguns, rifles, shotguns. It is possible to go to professional ranges in the US and fire fully auto weapons, machine guns, etc. It would seriously behoove them to do so, and we'd all benefit. Then they might finally add the ability to use the trigger button as the trigger as well. a bumper ain't no trigger! #shittycoding
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 178	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:46:00 - [24] - Quote I miss Chromosome up the ass. Yea the lazy was OP but I liked it way more then uprising. Who ever CCP let off from Chromosome should be slapped in the face. tanks were good. Av was still good. Not to many problems with that build but NOW there are 10x more problems and 10x more bugs. Sad life Heavys only have 2 heavy guns. Please dont turn the NERF bat on them. Give heavys more suits or guns please :D
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 706	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:50:00 - [25] - Quote Serious case of rose tinted glasses - just saying. Yes, Uprising had a 'troubled' start, and yes somethings are worse than before (read: TTK) - but mechanics wise the game is far, far ahead of chromo (that's the main reason for the TTK issues, the game was balanced around NOT working. now that it does, there are issues). That being said, the idea about sending the devs of to actually shoot things is a damn good one. Maybe the AR will finally get some recoil.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 828	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:54:00 - [26] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Serious case of rose tinted glasses - just saying. Yes, Uprising had a 'troubled' start, and yes somethings are worse than before (read: TTK) - but mechanics wise the game is far, far ahead of chromo (that's the main reason for the TTK issues, the game was balanced around NOT working. now that it does, there are issues). That being said, the idea about sending the devs of to actually shoot things is a damn good one. Maybe the AR will finally get some recoil. Lol you know nothing about Dust do you? The gun game in Chromosome was solid, aiming especially and hit detection was fine Uprising broke all that. The problem with Uprising was the aim it was terrible so they added aim assist after they broke the aiming. Look at the Chrome video the person has no problem aiming or hitting targets and there's no aim assist. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 794	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:02:00 - [27] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ridire Greine wrote: Well, its pretty evident from that clip, that Nade spam was still popular in Chrome. I probably didn't notice it as much, because I was in my cozy Gunnlogi, but now I'm just running around in my pyjamas. Nade spam is the one thing that's been consistent throughout DUST and that's saying a lot. The truth here is rather damning. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Core Locus Grenades have been in this game since Replication (June 2012). From that time to the present their stats have never been touched despite a deluge of community input that grenades in general simply aren't in the right place balance wise. #onlyCCP PC Coordinator for RISE of LEGION Have a pony
dogmanpig black market bank 52	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:16:00 - [28] - Quote chromosome, hit detection= great, minor sniper headglitch areas uprising, hit detection = swings from nearly never hit to never miss on that alone i call chromosome a clear cut winner. uprising, its look pretty but it just doesn't function right half the time which makes it not fun. chromosome, it works, few issue but overall fun and functional. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 511	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:41:00 - [29] - Quote Again with this? Whatever, you guys have fun with your sepia tones pining about the good old days... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
dogmanpig black market bank 52	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:44:00 - [30] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Again with this? Whatever, you guys have fun with your sepia tones pining about the good old days... truth hurts the most, doesn't it? You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 707	Posted - 2013.11.30 05:16:00 - [31] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Serious case of rose tinted glasses - just saying. Yes, Uprising had a 'troubled' start, and yes somethings are worse than before (read: TTK) - but mechanics wise the game is far, far ahead of chromo (that's the main reason for the TTK issues, the game was balanced around NOT working. now that it does, there are issues). That being said, the idea about sending the devs of to actually shoot things is a damn good one. Maybe the AR will finally get some recoil. Lol you know nothing about Dust do you? The gun game in Chromosome was solid, aiming especially and hit detection was fine Uprising broke all that. The problem with Uprising was the aim it was terrible so they added aim assist after they broke the aiming. Look at the Chrome video the person has no problem aiming or hitting targets and there's no aim assist. One whole video, wow... Just because the stars aligned every now and then to create a good match doesn't mean the hit detection in chromo actually worked, or that frame rate / lag wasn't an issue in all game modes, or that the aiming was even all that good (although that one is more subjective to be fair), or that the toned down aim assist is even a problem any more (every console shooter has it, there is a reason for this), or that... Also, playing since September 2012 - so not the oldest player around, but I've seen my fair share of bad builds.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 829	Posted - 2013.11.30 05:20:00 - [32] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ridire Greine wrote: Well, its pretty evident from that clip, that Nade spam was still popular in Chrome. I probably didn't notice it as much, because I was in my cozy Gunnlogi, but now I'm just running around in my pyjamas. Nade spam is the one thing that's been consistent throughout DUST and that's saying a lot. The truth here is rather damning. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Core Locus Grenades have been in this game since Replication (June 2012). From that time to the present their stats have never been touched despite a deluge of community input that grenades in general simply aren't in the right place balance wise. #onlyCCP That's because the community cries whenever they get killed plus everyone has the best gear so spamming core grenade on a proto nanohive is so easy. Chromosome had perfectly solvable problems Uprising just has issues. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 829	Posted - 2013.11.30 05:22:00 - [33] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Serious case of rose tinted glasses - just saying. Yes, Uprising had a 'troubled' start, and yes somethings are worse than before (read: TTK) - but mechanics wise the game is far, far ahead of chromo (that's the main reason for the TTK issues, the game was balanced around NOT working. now that it does, there are issues). That being said, the idea about sending the devs of to actually shoot things is a damn good one. Maybe the AR will finally get some recoil. Lol you know nothing about Dust do you? The gun game in Chromosome was solid, aiming especially and hit detection was fine Uprising broke all that. The problem with Uprising was the aim it was terrible so they added aim assist after they broke the aiming. Look at the Chrome video the person has no problem aiming or hitting targets and there's no aim assist. One whole video, wow... Just because the stars aligned every now and then to create a good match doesn't mean the hit detection in chromo actually worked, or that frame rate / lag wasn't an issue in all game modes, or that the aiming was even all that good (although that one is more subjective to be fair), or that the toned down aim assist is even a problem any more (every console shooter has it, there is a reason for this), or that... Also, playing since September 2012 - so not the oldest player around, but I've seen my fair share of bad builds. Yeah I have the fact that I have played since the mercenary pack for that. I was there is enough for me to know what's been happening in this game. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.


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