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Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:41:00 -
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As a KBM player, I hate and have fight against aimbot for mouthes, and suddenly I think the aim assist system maybe the key to fix the DUST's biggest problems.
If:
Aim assist and hit detection to standard suits for all controller and KBM players,
Only aim assist to advanced suits for all too,
No assist for any proto suits.
Then no need to change the assist system and everyone get happy.
I believe this would work. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:22:00 -
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update#1
And maybe:
Damage bounds to all assault suits, range weapon upgrade for low slot.
All the problems in DUST, as I think, not so hard to fix and wont take much time to fix. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Or we could just leave aim assist as it is like in every other console shooter in existence because there's no issue with it.
It's not an aimbot. It barely does ANYTHING. Hell, I played Crysis 3 the other day and with one small twitch of the stick I locked onto this guy with the bow and tracked him halfway across the map before releasing my arrow and getting a perfect headshot.
Dust aim assist is miniscule, but allows players of other shooters to better compete, since not all of us are "super leet" and can just use thumbsticks with no aim assist.
The aimbot I taking about is not just the aim assist, the aimbot=aim assist + hit detection.
Aim assist is OK, aim assist help you aim well, the controller player do need it to against KBM player.
But the hit detection is a total different thing, hit detection allow you to kill your target without a well aim, |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Hit detection and aim assist are working perfectly. If ttk needs to be changed then base weapon damage is the best thing to change.
here is the video, thanks to my friends:
50 kills in 1 solo domanation use controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V493LU11ME
34 kills in 1 solo domanation use KBM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OvKVEI01wY |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:20:00 -
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So I accumulation my HP above 900, then I found I can win a 1v1 close fire with 1 Elite aimbot for 1 time.... |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 06:33:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Cyncia Gaess wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Hit detection and aim assist are working perfectly. If ttk needs to be changed then base weapon damage is the best thing to change. Yes, the aim assist and hit detection work perfectly now, yes indeed, and I think the new player who use KBM and wearing 400HP standard suit need it too. And 20m SP Black armor tank logi with aim assist and hit detection assist AR is truly nightmare to everyone include themselves. here is the video, thanks to my friends: 50 kills in 1 solo domanation use controller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V493LU11ME34 kills in 1 solo domanation use KBM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OvKVEI01wYFeel the different. Many of my best friends decide to leave when they finish this video, they think this is ridiculous. I have work hard in my corp for half a year, as a player must continue with KBM against aimbot, I feel tired and hopeless. Well, I wanna AFK too, really. Though I cant, I am the CEO of my Corp, I have spent countless efforts on it. And I have responsibility to lead, who still have hope, still love this game, and the newcomers through this darkest days. What?
KBM aim better, but he need more time to kill one target.
The controller can kill most of guy in 1 second even without a accurately aim.
They are using the same weapon, so the TTK problems is not base on weapons, but on KBM/controller. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:35:00 -
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nor asha wrote:they had aim assist in the game 9 months ago but it was only friction, not friction plus magnet aim.
It worked fine
Please read carefully, you are a magnet adsorption bullets, but not your enemy's Crosshair.
What your said is aim assist, that is fine, and What I talking about is hit detection, which I think is good for newplayers and should only use by new players or standard suits. |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.29 10:07:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:All they need to do is to improve KB/M. And what I mean with this is give those guys the raw input they are screaming for over the last months.
Aim-Assist was introduced because it is just not possible to aim as fast and as precise with a controller as you can with a mouse.
So in reality the aim-assist is no advantage for the controller, it was introduced to put controllers and kb/m on an even fight.
Its just that kb/m sucks atm, not the aim assist which is OP.
Sorry to say this but I think aim assist is fine. It does what its supposed to do and it indeed helps with keeping your aim at the target, especially when the enemy is starting with the strafing dance.
We had this discussion over and over again, aim assist is natural in most console-fps games, and if you have a problem with it, simply turn it off.
Again, its not the aim assist which is broken, its the kb/m input which is broken. i tried playing with t and it really feels weird. Raw input is what you folks need,
GǪGǪI think you are right! |
Cyncia Gaess
Die Valkyrja
Pangu Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:14:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cyncia Gaess wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Or we could just leave aim assist as it is like in every other console shooter in existence because there's no issue with it.
It's not an aimbot. It barely does ANYTHING. Hell, I played Crysis 3 the other day and with one small twitch of the stick I locked onto this guy with the bow and tracked him halfway across the map before releasing my arrow and getting a perfect headshot.
Dust aim assist is miniscule, but allows players of other shooters to better compete, since not all of us are "super leet" and can just use thumbsticks with no aim assist. The aimbot I taking about is not just the aim assist, the aimbot=aim assist + hit detection assist. Aim assist is OK, aim assist help people aim well, the controller player do need it to against KBM player. But the hit detection assist is a total different thing, hit detection in DUST allow you to kill your target without a accurately aim. http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/4443a2bfgw1eb1kty335fj20b80aaaae.jpghttp://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/4443a2bfgw1eb1ktyctsyj20840a33yk.jpghttp://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/4443a2bfgw1eb1ktymjknj20e00au74p.jpghttp://ww3.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/4443a2bfgw1eb1ku0y114j209p0d7jrr.jpgI can show two video each use KBM(34kills in 1domi) and controller(50kills in 1domi), I believe everyone can feel the different in similar situation(when I back to my Office). I am not opposed to assist for aim, what I against is the assist to hit detection. The hit detection just like we all have a huge magnet in our dropsuits, which will activated when we face controllers. And now, I think the hit detection assist can be the key, let the new players stay. Of course, please remove all the assist when high SP player wear proto suits. It's a bug that's the product of lag, man. This game uses server-side hit detection with a subroutine to compensate for latency. If something goes wrong in that mix, you end up hitting people when you aren't aiming at them. It's the price we pay for being free of aimbots and lag-switching and all that other **** you can get away with on client-side hit detection.
IGǪGǪI tried to call all my leaving friends back and told them try to play with DS3 and thenGǪGǪ
Guess what happend?
They were been killed like **** at the beginning and....when they finanlly adapted the DS3, they all like God of War now......
I am pleased andGǪGǪ
Oh, dont worry, I will continue use KBM because I think I can beat any controller players,even my friend is NS and AE. :)
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