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Zerus Ra'Koldor
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:47:00 -
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I have everything at ADV level including all equipment ...
Complex damage mods
AR Proficiency 3 Sharpshooter 5 and have access to all AR's
I have ADV Caldari Logi suits and medium suits
I had been saving up to go to proto caldari logi suits however .. shield tanking has been made obsolete .. and because the Cal Logi has had its CPU reduced by 40 it's hard to fit a good tanking suit and good equipment
Should I save up SP for another 2 weeks and get proto Gal Logi instead ?
It gets a bonus to PG/CPU reduction on equipment.. Armour tanking is definitely the way to go right now and with the Gal Logi i'll be able to fit a strong tank and good equipment
I had wanted to use the RR on the caldari suit but seeing as we aren;t going to get an AR SP respec it may be better for me to use the GAL AR on a GAL suit so I at least have some racial parity,I wanted to RP caldari but with 3.5m sp invested in the GAL AR i can't just lose all that SP .. I only have 9m atm
So thoughts please, should I stick to my guns and go CAL logi in the hope we get an SP respec at some point to trade the AR SP into the RR or should I just ditch the cal logi suit entirely and go down the Gal Logi route and use the AR i;ve invested so much SP into ... the cost of the change would be the sp it takes to get Gallente Medium suits 3 and Gal logi suits 3 .. I think thats 800k sp ? Better than losign 3.5m sp invested in the Gal AR
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EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
646
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:54:00 -
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Get Proto Nova Knife and train their Prof. all the way up
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1408
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:56:00 -
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Passive Profile Dampening if you want to counter the mass amounts of Active Scanners currently in use. Electronics (CPU) to 5 is a must have, if you haven't yet. Proto Reppers, if you're not doing the Slayer Logi thing. AR Proficiency 5 if you wanna go Slayer.
(Don't be surprised to see a full respec in 1.8 or 1.9, but don't bank on it.)
Cheeseburgers.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2262
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:58:00 -
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I'd say wait until the new rifles come out next month and skill those up. They look like they'll be pretty good. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1836
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:02:00 -
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Go callogi, it's still pretty OP cause you can stack 3 Dmg mods and still get 1k ehp
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Mdog 24158
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:10:00 -
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Zerus Ra'Koldor wrote:I have everything at ADV level including all equipment ...
Complex damage mods
AR Proficiency 3 Sharpshooter 5 and have access to all AR's
I have ADV Caldari Logi suits and medium suits
I had been saving up to go to proto caldari logi suits however .. shield tanking has been made obsolete .. and because the Cal Logi has had its CPU reduced by 40 it's hard to fit a good tanking suit and good equipment
Should I save up SP for another 2 weeks and get proto Gal Logi instead ?
It gets a bonus to PG/CPU reduction on equipment.. Armour tanking is definitely the way to go right now and with the Gal Logi i'll be able to fit a strong tank and good equipment
I had wanted to use the RR on the caldari suit but seeing as we aren;t going to get an AR SP respec it may be better for me to use the GAL AR on a GAL suit so I at least have some racial parity,I wanted to RP caldari but with 3.5m sp invested in the GAL AR i can't just lose all that SP .. I only have 9m atm
So thoughts please, should I stick to my guns and go CAL logi in the hope we get an SP respec at some point to trade the AR SP into the RR or should I just ditch the cal logi suit entirely and go down the Gal Logi route and use the AR i;ve invested so much SP into ... the cost of the change would be the sp it takes to get Gallente Medium suits 3 and Gal logi suits 3 .. I think thats 800k sp ? Better than losign 3.5m sp invested in the Gal AR
Id just save got 800k so dont know what to do with it .
Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2503
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:11:00 -
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Zerus Ra'Koldor wrote:I have everything at ADV level including all equipment ...
Complex damage mods
AR Proficiency 3 Sharpshooter 5 and have access to all AR's
I have ADV Caldari Logi suits and medium suits
I had been saving up to go to proto caldari logi suits however .. shield tanking has been made obsolete .. and because the Cal Logi has had its CPU reduced by 40 it's hard to fit a good tanking suit and good equipment
Should I save up SP for another 2 weeks and get proto Gal Logi instead ?
It gets a bonus to PG/CPU reduction on equipment.. Armour tanking is definitely the way to go right now and with the Gal Logi i'll be able to fit a strong tank and good equipment
I had wanted to use the RR on the caldari suit but seeing as we aren;t going to get an AR SP respec it may be better for me to use the GAL AR on a GAL suit so I at least have some racial parity,I wanted to RP caldari but with 3.5m sp invested in the GAL AR i can't just lose all that SP .. I only have 9m atm
So thoughts please, should I stick to my guns and go CAL logi in the hope we get an SP respec at some point to trade the AR SP into the RR or should I just ditch the cal logi suit entirely and go down the Gal Logi route and use the AR i;ve invested so much SP into ... the cost of the change would be the sp it takes to get Gallente Medium suits 3 and Gal logi suits 3 .. I think thats 800k sp ? Better than losign 3.5m sp invested in the Gal AR
Wait for the New FOTM to come, RAil rifle. So you can Proto it right away....
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
160
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:13:00 -
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Make sure all your core skills are up. Shield extender 5 and profile dampening 5 should be your first 5s. Even though shield may seem useless at the moment, complex shield extenders are so much better than enchanted that it is worth it.
Next get your core shields and armor, and core electronic and engineering up to 5. You can't go wrong with these because they are applicable to every suite.
Think of all of these as foundation skills, if you are training anything else before them, you are trying to take shortcuts. Try not to fall for training skills that seem applicable this week or even this build because it will change again and again. The core skills will always be applicable.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1190
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:14:00 -
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Don't be like Hitlor.....
Spec Sidearms
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1416
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:14:00 -
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Skill into vehicles so you can get your last fill on them before they are changed and most of them removed
You will recieve a refund of that SP during 1.7 anyway.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
168
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:17:00 -
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Level those core skills if they are not already, I know they are boring, but level 5 armor, shields, PG, CPU makes a huge difference, work at maxing out those shield extender/armor rep as well if you have the slots, put them to efficient use. |
Zerus Ra'Koldor
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:20:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:I'd say wait until the new rifles come out next month and skill those up. They look like they'll be pretty good.
I only have ADV suits and have the AR at Proficiency 3 and sharpshooter 5 so unless we got a respec I'll keep using the Gek/Duvolle as I have 1/3rd of my total SP invested into them
Really I'm torn between Cal Logi and Gal Logi looking at my current skills I could have this loadout on a Gal Logi
Slayer Logi Build
COST :-143,385 ISK
CPU 439/482 PG 86/88
eHP 108/790 = 898 Total
High Slots
Complex Damage Modifier x3
Low Slots
Enhanced Armour Plates x 5
Weapon
Duvolle
Grenades
M1 Locus Grenades (If I had my Engineering at 3 I could use Core Locus Nades Instead)
Equipment
K17/D Nanohive (R) Compact Nanohive x3
The compact nanohives are used to rep 50 armor during firefights the K/17 is more for group when defending a position all these are instead of using repairers in the low slots to maximise tank and survivability
This is a scrubby build btw
Gal Logi .. Logi mode
COST:- 183,219 ISK
CPU 468/482 PG 86/88
eHP 178/557 Total = 735
High Slots
Enhanced Shield Extender x 2 Complex Precision Enhancer
Low Slots
Enhanced Armour Plates x3 Enhanced Armour Repairer x2
Weapon
Gek-38
Grenades
M1 Locus Grenade
Equipment
Allotek Nanohive (R) Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive Six Kin Triage Repair Tool Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector
I can't even get close to using all that proto equipment on a Cal Logi even if all my core skills were maxed and still retain that type of HP and Armour rep which is 11.9
Looking at what I can make with the skills I currently have the difference between Cal Logi and Gal logi is huge |
Zerus Ra'Koldor
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:47:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:Level those core skills if they are not already, I know they are boring, but level 5 armor, shields, PG, CPU makes a huge difference, work at maxing out those shield extender/armor rep as well if you have the slots, put them to efficient use.
Edit: if you haven't already leveled a sidearm it's definitely worth it, at 3 prof 3 sharpshooter I melt faces with my SMG
I have
Core Upgrades 3 Electronics 4 Engineering 3 Shield Upgrades 4 Shield Extenders 3 Shield Regulation 3 Shield Rechargers 3 Armour Upgrades 3 Armour Repair 3 Light Weapons 3 Assault Rifles 5 AR Pro 3 AR Sharpshooter 5 Mass Drivers 3 Laser Rifles 1 (12k sp sink but not much difference between STD and proto and can be fun on soem maps)
All equipment is at 3
The reason I want to go to a proto suit before finishing of maximising core upgrades is because it's the biggest 1 off SP sink (1,940,000 SP) .. I wont be playing as much in Jan as I go back to work so I'd like to get it out of the way ... taking the remaining skills from 3/4-5 is about 800k each which is 2 weeks of capping out and passive gains without boosters and I will know which order to them in based on what my fittings are eg if I'm not going to use shield rechargers then theres no point taking them to 5 .. if I stay cal logi I will if I go gal logi i wont) Same with armour reps if i go cal logi I wont be using Armor reps but obv if i go Gal Logi I will
If I can pick the suit then I can focus on the priority core skills I'll need for my suit
I'm honestly edging towards Gal Logi because that CPU nerf and change to the racial bonus on the Cal Logi makes it pretty much useless compared to the Gal Logi and its awesome Equipment fitting bonus and higher base CPU
I have 4 sleeper accounts 1 of each race so I my go and play my Gallente 1 for a bit to see how I feel about it |
Kazeno Rannaa
BIG BAD W0LVES
332
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:59:00 -
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Zerus Ra'Koldor wrote:I have everything at ADV level including all equipment ...
Complex damage mods
AR Proficiency 3 Sharpshooter 5 and have access to all AR's
I have ADV Caldari Logi suits and medium suits
I had been saving up to go to proto caldari logi suits however .. shield tanking has been made obsolete .. and because the Cal Logi has had its CPU reduced by 40 it's hard to fit a good tanking suit and good equipment
Should I save up SP for another 2 weeks and get proto Gal Logi instead ?
It gets a bonus to PG/CPU reduction on equipment.. Armour tanking is definitely the way to go right now and with the Gal Logi i'll be able to fit a strong tank and good equipment
I had wanted to use the RR on the caldari suit but seeing as we aren;t going to get an AR SP respec it may be better for me to use the GAL AR on a GAL suit so I at least have some racial parity,I wanted to RP caldari but with 3.5m sp invested in the GAL AR i can't just lose all that SP .. I only have 9m atm
So thoughts please, should I stick to my guns and go CAL logi in the hope we get an SP respec at some point to trade the AR SP into the RR or should I just ditch the cal logi suit entirely and go down the Gal Logi route and use the AR i;ve invested so much SP into ... the cost of the change would be the sp it takes to get Gallente Medium suits 3 and Gal logi suits 3 .. I think thats 800k sp ? Better than losign 3.5m sp invested in the Gal AR
Well, here is the deal that I will say I see in regards to this dilution of a RESPEC here in DUST. Unless something drastically happens here in the EVE universe with CCP, I donGÇÖt see the respect happening. You have already been working on the Caldari Logi, why not also get the RR. With over 2m SP, that would give you RR Op 5, Prof 4, Ammo 3,. and Rapid Reload 3. That is of course there is no sharpshooter. Which with ADV suits would be solid parameter defense and roaming intel Logi that would work well in a QRT (quick reaction team) or LRRP (long range recon patrol).
This idea that a respect is the answer for not thinking long on your choices or being ok with having to adjust the use of your skills the the circumstances you will have to deal with in a future moment is just indicative of the mentality that CCP seems to NOT be promoting. That being a mindset where the choices that all of us make have consequences, and those decisions that are made in the context of one moment in time may not be EXACTLY applicable to another, though human ingenuity will find some way to use that knowledge to their advantage.
In other words, DONGÇ¥T BANK ON IT.
Be ok with your decisions and learn how to adjust to the circumstances instead of becoming overly dependent upon a magic bullet fix for all situations or the fact that just like in every other game you can either go back to a previous save or hit then reset button. There is none of that here, so you might as well throw that crutch to the side and walk without it. You will thank yourself later for it. |
Tectonic Fusion
628
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:01:00 -
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Mdog 24158 wrote:Zerus Ra'Koldor wrote:I have everything at ADV level including all equipment ...
Complex damage mods
AR Proficiency 3 Sharpshooter 5 and have access to all AR's
I have ADV Caldari Logi suits and medium suits
I had been saving up to go to proto caldari logi suits however .. shield tanking has been made obsolete .. and because the Cal Logi has had its CPU reduced by 40 it's hard to fit a good tanking suit and good equipment
Should I save up SP for another 2 weeks and get proto Gal Logi instead ?
It gets a bonus to PG/CPU reduction on equipment.. Armour tanking is definitely the way to go right now and with the Gal Logi i'll be able to fit a strong tank and good equipment
I had wanted to use the RR on the caldari suit but seeing as we aren;t going to get an AR SP respec it may be better for me to use the GAL AR on a GAL suit so I at least have some racial parity,I wanted to RP caldari but with 3.5m sp invested in the GAL AR i can't just lose all that SP .. I only have 9m atm
So thoughts please, should I stick to my guns and go CAL logi in the hope we get an SP respec at some point to trade the AR SP into the RR or should I just ditch the cal logi suit entirely and go down the Gal Logi route and use the AR i;ve invested so much SP into ... the cost of the change would be the sp it takes to get Gallente Medium suits 3 and Gal logi suits 3 .. I think thats 800k sp ? Better than losign 3.5m sp invested in the Gal AR
Id just save got 800k so dont know what to do with it . I only got like 400k saved...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
396
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:04:00 -
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Save it till new suits come out. It seems CCP thinks we should all anticipate this and save out SP to go into a suit we have been wanting this whole time that this game which is in so called release phase is missing despite something lke that definantly being a part of the core game. |
Tectonic Fusion
629
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:44:00 -
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Use it for assault dropships
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
2015
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:21:00 -
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Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1030
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:33:00 -
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Save it, I would just skill up all core skills to 5 and sit on the rest. No use skilling into something only for it to change months later.
F* the Snowflake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKd3cdKdak
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:55:00 -
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You already said what you want to do . Seems like you are thinking too much . When 1.7 drops just take a little of that and place it into the new rifles just to see if it's something that sparks your interest . If so go half way and bank the rest . It's always good to make decisions that you are SURE about , instead of second guessing and then looking for a respec later for YOUR OWN decisions .
You should know by now that just like money , it's always GOOD to have skill points in the bank .
Be wise and invest wiser .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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