DUST Search - Logis, what would you do if the logi class bonus was equipment PG/CPU reduction?

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:

I don't really think that this'll happen, but I just started wondering this out of the blue. So, theoretically speaking...

I skilled into Minmatar logistics because (1) Winmatar, (2) I had the SVER, and (3) the module layout was pretty boss.

Then I realized that the Gallente bonus was way too good for me to not be using it. I don't feel the hack bonus is that great to begin with and it's not like there's a bunch of options for high slots (or hacking modules) anyway. I slap on my equipment first, my modules second, and then I gently insert whichever SMG/Pistol that fits last. That Gallente bonus was made for it.

At first I was going to say that i'd go back to Minmatar, but I think i'd stick to Gallente even if the racial bonus was changed to something stupid...as long as it wasn't shield related...probably.

You?

Erm, it's great that you guys have ideas on what the new racial bonuses would be, but I really only wanted to know what it is you'd do if the class bonus was changed to the Gallente racial.

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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 544	Posted - 2013.11.28 04:19:00 - [1] - Quote I don't really think that this'll happen, but I just started wondering this out of the blue. So, theoretically speaking... I skilled into Minmatar logistics because (1) Winmatar, (2) I had the SVER, and (3) the module layout was pretty boss. Then I realized that the Gallente bonus was way too good for me to not be using it. I don't feel the hack bonus is that great to begin with and it's not like there's a bunch of options for high slots (or hacking modules) anyway. I slap on my equipment first, my modules second, and then I gently insert whichever SMG/Pistol that fits last. That Gallente bonus was made for it. At first I was going to say that i'd go back to Minmatar, but I think i'd stick to Gallente even if the racial bonus was changed to something stupid...as long as it wasn't shield related...probably. You? My logi-code.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1113	Posted - 2013.11.28 04:22:00 - [2] - Quote I actually speak about this extensively in my ADS report. Absolutely yes, the general Logistics bonus should be what is currently the Gallente Bonus. There is some more to what I feel would bring proper balance, but to be on topic, I completely agree. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2378	Posted - 2013.11.28 04:26:00 - [3] - Quote I love the hacking bonus, but I understand the necessity to change it. People have come up with these things a thousand times in a hundred different threads, but seriously it should look like: General Logi bonus: Equipment CPU/PG reduction Caldari: Nanohive bonus Amarr: Uplink bonus Minmatar: Repair tool bonus Gallente: Active scanner and/or nanite injector bonus. Been Logistics since before it was cool.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 544	Posted - 2013.11.28 04:30:00 - [4] - Quote Erm, it's great that you guys have ideas on what the new racial bonuses would be, but I really only wanted to know what it is you'd do if the class bonus was changed to the Gallente racial. My logi-code.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 153	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:02:00 - [5] - Quote Use the extra pg/CPU to equip a better personal repper since that is what I would lose for it.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 539	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:04:00 - [6] - Quote Should be a role bonus across all logi suits. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1114	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:18:00 - [7] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1520867#post1520867 Theres link to my report outlining my thoughts on Logistics. I actually rather like the hacking bonus, I think it fills an important roll. But in short here is the summary from that report for Logistics. Logistics Role Summary Logistics Role Bonus: +% to reduction of PG/CPU cost of equipment / Lvl Caldari Logistics Bonus: +% to Nanite Capacity of Nanohives / Lvl Gallente Logistics Bonus: +% to Repair Rate of Repair Tools / Lvl Amarr Logistics Bonus: +% Reduction to Drop Uplink spawn time / Lvl Minmatar Logistics Bonus: +% Hack Speed / Lvl ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2363	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:22:00 - [8] - Quote Absolutely the logi bonus should be Gallente's specific logi bonus. It just makes sense, and prevents logis from being such outright superior armour tankers. That and the Assault bonus should be the Commando's reload bonus. But that's a story for another thread. No.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 371	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:42:00 - [9] - Quote I think it's a terrible idea. Reasons being it would only make the logi suit even more op than it already is currently. With the fitting bonus to equipment it allows you to fit a bunch of proto equipment AND buffer tank like crazy. Adding this across the board would be a mistake. If they cut the pg/CPU of the logi as well as made the fitting bonus that would be alright. All of the log bonuses need to be iterate on anyway. None of the really fit. Hack bonus needs to b on a scou suit. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1114	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:44:00 - [10] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: I think it's a terrible idea. Reasons being it would only make the logi suit even more op than it already is currently. With the fitting bonus to equipment it allows you to fit a bunch of proto equipment AND buffer tank like crazy. Adding this across the board would be a mistake. If they cut the pg/CPU of the logi as well as made the fitting bonus that would be alright. Yes I agree. Effective CPU/PG should remain the same, meaning reduce the cost of equipment and pair that with an equivalent decrease in base PG/CPU. Again, all outline in my report linked above ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 545	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:53:00 - [11] - Quote Seriously guys... ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Erm, it's great that you guys have ideas on what the new racial bonuses would be, but I really only wanted to know what it is you'd do if the class bonus was changed to the Gallente racial. My logi-code.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 683	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:57:00 - [12] - Quote I'm against racial bonuses. We the true logis need a skill tree to be able to upgrade our equipment. The same thing as proficiency skills for weapons but for equipment Plasma Cannon Advocate
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 167	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:02:00 - [13] - Quote This idea, reducing fitting costs for equipment, makes sense for all logis. But I foresee a problem: the return of Killer Bees. Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 936	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:02:00 - [14] - Quote I think most bonuses are meant to be more broad. Plus the Amarr Logi is meant to be the most "assaultish" of the 4 What the fox say?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1408	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:15:00 - [15] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: I love the hacking bonus, but I understand the necessity to change it. People have come up with these things a thousand times in a hundred different threads, but seriously it should look like: General Logi bonus: Equipment CPU/PG reduction Caldari: Nanohive bonus Amarr: Uplink bonus Minmatar: Repair tool bonus Gallente: Active scanner and/or nanite injector bonus. How would the Gallente bonus make sense in terms of lore? You do know that the Nanite Injectors are Caldari right? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1295	Posted - 2013.11.28 10:33:00 - [16] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Seriously guys... ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Erm, it's great that you guys have ideas on what the new racial bonuses would be, but I really only wanted to know what it is you'd do if the class bonus was changed to the Gallente racial. Lol no one wants to answer your question they are too busy with wild speculation. Anyhoo if my logi suit changed so the bonus of 1hp/s/level became the Gallente logi racial bonus I would stick with my suit anyway but considering I use the Gal logi anyway (have done since uprising 1.0 so don't start claiming I chase the FOTM) not a great deal would change except losing 5hp/s which is manageable. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 459	Posted - 2013.11.28 10:41:00 - [17] - Quote Why waste an entire class bonus when you could just bring the old Nanocircuitary skill back and actually give other logis apart from Gallente a chance to fit some stuff. Would also free up space on Assault suits running hives/injectors.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 281	Posted - 2013.11.28 10:44:00 - [18] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I don't really think that this'll happen, but I just started wondering this out of the blue. So, theoretically speaking... I skilled into Minmatar logistics because (1) Winmatar, (2) I had the SVER, and (3) the module layout was pretty boss. Then I realized that the Gallente bonus was way too good for me to not be using it. I don't feel the hack bonus is that great to begin with and it's not like there's a bunch of options for high slots (or hacking modules) anyway. I slap on my equipment first, my modules second, and then I gently insert whichever SMG/Pistol that fits last. That Gallente bonus was made for it. At first I was going to say that i'd go back to Minmatar, but I think i'd stick to Gallente even if the racial bonus was changed to something stupid...as long as it wasn't shield related...probably. You? Erm, it's great that you guys have ideas on what the new racial bonuses would be, but I really only wanted to know what it is you'd do if the class bonus was changed to the Gallente racial. Funny I went exactly the other way round I started with gallente exactly for the equipment bonus, but made made me somewhat addicted to the minni is the speed advantage. The minmatar is the only logi that can keep pace with advancing assaults. And I like the hacking bonus although it is situational and depend strong on the game mode you choose.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 281	Posted - 2013.11.28 10:44:00 - [19] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Why waste an entire class bonus when you could just bring the old Nanocircuitary skill back and actually give other logis apart from Gallente a chance to fit some stuff. Would also free up space on Assault suits running hives/injectors. The skill is still there it is either buggy or missing the description
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 109	Posted - 2013.11.28 10:48:00 - [20] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Why waste an entire class bonus when you could just bring the old Nanocircuitary skill back and actually give other logis apart from Gallente a chance to fit some stuff. Would also free up space on Assault suits running hives/injectors. Don't tell any one, but it is still active.

KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1440	Posted - 2013.11.28 11:13:00 - [21] - Quote Noooo! I mean: http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ kind of NO. - Do you seriously mean that my brilliant Cal Logi bonus of +2% effectivety to the Shield Regulators can be taken away without a major uprising from the community? If they did this, I bet hundreds of Cal Logi players simply would quit Dust and never come back. Why break the suit? http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 487	Posted - 2013.11.28 11:36:00 - [22] - Quote Simple, skill up minmatar logi instead of gallante.


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