DUST Search - A simple fix to the Logistic suits bonus

Oswald Rehnquist wrote:

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Vyzion Eyri wrote:

I never forgive myself for choosing HP over better equipment, but I do it anyway because I feel I die too damn fast every game. Not to mention equipment forces me to have no flexibility in weapon choices as the AR is the only weapon that performs decently in all scenarios without requiring massive amounts of CPU/PG at the advanced level (hoping the RR and CR will change that).

The Logistics bonus can alleviate this frustration by providing a fitting cost reduction to equipment. Either a uniform -5% to fitting cost to all equipment, or something like this:

Logistics Level 1: 10% reduction to fitting cost of repair tools and nanite injectors.
Level 2: 15% reduction to fitting cost of nanohives.
Level 3: 10% reduction to fitting costs of uplinks.
Level 4: 20% reduction to fitting costs of remote explosives/proxy explosives.
Level 5: 10% reduction to fitting costs of scanners.

Not really sure about those numbers, but that is the general idea.

Useless skills.
Most of logi don't even use Explosives and Scanners.
These are used by scouts and assaults.

Calda and Amarr is 90% of time using : Repair tool / Drop uplink / Nanohives.
The others same with Nanite.

I agree, one potential solution could be a "reduction to equipment" in general

Reduce logi cpu/pg by 10%, give it a +10% equipment reduction per level (50% is huge), and poof,

A logi that does not go heavy into equipment will not benefit from the suits bonus, and thus be a weaker assault, a logi that goes heavy into equipment will thus be invested into support while still having the ability to defend itself.

All I know is I"m in the logi keeping light weapon camp.


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 466	Posted - 2013.11.27 13:20:00 - [1] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: I never forgive myself for choosing HP over better equipment, but I do it anyway because I feel I die too damn fast every game. Not to mention equipment forces me to have no flexibility in weapon choices as the AR is the only weapon that performs decently in all scenarios without requiring massive amounts of CPU/PG at the advanced level (hoping the RR and CR will change that). The Logistics bonus can alleviate this frustration by providing a fitting cost reduction to equipment. Either a uniform -5% to fitting cost to all equipment, or something like this: Logistics Level 1: 10% reduction to fitting cost of repair tools and nanite injectors. Level 2: 15% reduction to fitting cost of nanohives. Level 3: 10% reduction to fitting costs of uplinks. Level 4: 20% reduction to fitting costs of remote explosives/proxy explosives. Level 5: 10% reduction to fitting costs of scanners. Not really sure about those numbers, but that is the general idea. Useless skills. Most of logi don't even use Explosives and Scanners. These are used by scouts and assaults. Calda and Amarr is 90% of time using : Repair tool / Drop uplink / Nanohives. The others same with Nanite. I agree, one potential solution could be a "reduction to equipment" in general Reduce logi cpu/pg by 10%, give it a +10% equipment reduction per level (50% is huge), and poof, A logi that does not go heavy into equipment will not benefit from the suits bonus, and thus be a weaker assault, a logi that goes heavy into equipment will thus be invested into support while still having the ability to defend itself. All I know is I"m in the logi keeping light weapon camp. I'm pretty sure what the devs are hinting at is something like what Vyzion suggests, with specific equipment bonuses, based on their original posts about it. I don't known that I like either because it seems against the whole sandbox thing and I don't want to have to unlock every dang logi suit to use equipment to its max potential. I prefer the blanket reduction along the lines of what Oswald said. I'll have to see what the devs cook up, but my main critique of Vyzions proposal is that it creates a hierarchical tree of equipment which is a little artificial. Who gets to say what equipment I use first? It should be up to me. Even if it was somehow racially based at least there would be a choice involved of picking the race that matches the equipment you want. But, like I said, racial bonuses would make being a logi an even bigger SP sink than it is now, might even start rivaling vehicles! One way it could work though is that you get a blanket-type reduction on all equipment, plus an additional cherry-on-top bonus for one type in particular. As for the OP, I'm not sure if the lack of repper use is really an issue, I think a fair amount of us (Amarr specifically) use at least one rep to take advantage of the racial bonus. I'd guess a decent amount of gallente do as well. Caldari would probably hate it, it's really not worth it for them to waste a slot on a rep module or reactive plate. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!