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+1 just for not adding in damage % bonuses.

+23 more for great idea.

I agree with you cosgar.

The assault need equal amount of slots as a logi, but only one equipment slot.

This would mean assaults become more versatile in combat than logis.

Or the other way would be equally good: nerf logi high/low slots to have equal amount of slots as the basic frame, but in a different configuration.

You seem to have missed the point entirely. This isn't an assault vs logi topic, it's assault vs medium frame. Assaults aren't attractive enough to skill into because you barely get anything.

Currently the Assault is flat out better than the basic frame. The Logis are by far better than the basic frames.

The basic frames should have a purpose too.

I wouldn't mind seeing 2 equipment slots on the basic medium.

I'd also like to see the specialisations derived from the basic frames (and I want to know how CCP decides on the changes). The specialisations should not be strictly more powerful, just more specialised.

Basic Medium => Logistics
+2~4 equipment slots
+1~2 module slots
+CPU/PG
+1HP/s per level suit bonus
+1 racial bonus
-Base stats
-Sidearm (except Amarr logi)

Basic Medium => Assault
+5% shield recharge rate per level suit bonus
+1 racial bonus

Does anyone else see anything wrong with this? This was never an assault vs logi issue, but assault vs basic medium frames. All you really get from skilling from a basic frame to an assault is a shield bonus (that's useless on 2 suits) and a racial bonus. Instead, the jump from basic medium to assault should look something like this:

Basic Medium => Assault
+25% base shield or armor (depends on race)
+25% base shield recharge rate for all suits (instead of the bonus)
+CPU or PG (depending on race)
+Base stamina
+Base movement or sprint speed (depends on race)
-25% CPU/PG fitting cost to weapons and weapon mods. (Change Gallente assault bonus to +plate efficacy or -movement penalty to mirror the Caldari assault)

This would be a good start on making assaults more attractive compared to logistics because you actually get something aside from 2 bonuses you might not really use and a white coat of paint. At the same time, this reinforces the assault suit's strengths compared to logistics by making them less module reliant, allowing them to fit stuff like damage mods without having to give up HP and more offensive based by allowing them to fit better weapons.

Assualts universal bonus should be a range buff to weapons

Id also prefer to see cal assault gove benefit to extenders and regulators

Basic Medium => Logistics
+2~4 equipment slots
+1~2 module slots
+CPU/PG
+1HP/s per level suit bonus
+1 racial bonus
-Base stats
-Sidearm (except Amarr logi)

Basic Medium => Assault
+5% shield recharge rate per level suit bonus
+1 racial bonus

Does anyone else see anything wrong with this? This was never an assault vs logi issue, but assault vs basic medium frames. All you really get from skilling from a basic frame to an assault is a shield bonus (that's useless on 2 suits) and a racial bonus. Instead, the jump from basic medium to assault should look something like this:

Basic Medium => Assault
+25% base shield or armor (depends on race)
+25% base shield recharge rate for all suits (instead of the bonus)
+CPU or PG (depending on race)
+Base stamina
+Base movement or sprint speed (depends on race)
-25% CPU/PG fitting cost to weapons and weapon mods. (Change Gallente assault bonus to +plate efficacy or -movement penalty to mirror the Caldari assault)

This would be a good start on making assaults more attractive compared to logistics because you actually get something aside from 2 bonuses you might not really use and a white coat of paint. At the same time, this reinforces the assault suit's strengths compared to logistics by making them less module reliant, allowing them to fit stuff like damage mods without having to give up HP and more offensive based by allowing them to fit better weapons.

Logistics suits has penality against Basic Frames.
Less Stamina
Less speed
No sidearms.
Less Hp Base.


While Assault don't lose ANYTHING.
So YES they wins less than Logistics because they lose nothing.