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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
51
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:46:00 -
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Right now pretty much everything has the same price tag
- STD/ADV/PRO weapons usually cost the same for a FG or an AR yet the FG does a lot more damage and can reduce over 1,000,000 worth of HAV to nothing
- Dropsuits - Minmatar (low HP) average of 500-700 not much more - Amarr (high HP) can hit the 1000 mark fitted well
I just wanted to see if anyone else has an opinion on this ....
shouldn't the crappy rust covered suit cost less ISK seen as you are guaranteed more deaths??? |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:49:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Right now pretty much everything has the same price tag
- STD/ADV/PRO weapons usually cost the same for a FG or an AR yet the FG does a lot more damage and can reduce over 1,000,000 worth of HAV to nothing
- Dropsuits - Minmatar (low HP) average of 500-700 not much more - Amarr (high HP) can hit the 1000 mark fitted well
I just wanted to see if anyone else has an opinion on this ....
shouldn't the crappy rust covered suit cost less ISK seen as you are guaranteed more deaths???
If memory serves, I believe they want all suits of the same meta level to cost the same. It wasn't the case before, I recall heavies costing more than assaults and I do believe everyone is happier now. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
931
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:51:00 -
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Forge Gun is an anti-material cannon that is a modified mining tool. A Plasma Rifle is not.
To the rest of things:
Minmitar are not meant for health. They are speed. Amarr are health, but less speed, slots, and other things. Gallente are armor tankers, so they'll have lows. Caldari are shield tankers, so they'll have highs.
(To be clear: This is the clear-cut description of the factions in Dust 514's restrictions.)
Each faction has strengths and weaknesses, ranging from their suits to their weapons. What you should really notice is the prices of standard basic frames to standard specialized frames.
Would you like to hear more?
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC FUCKING EAGLE! CAN YOU SING?!
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
51
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:55:00 -
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Heavys do cost more which is understandable, they are tougher my point is the Minmatar suit has way less endurance than all the others - Less HP Shield/Armour - Less Stamina - Lowest Shield regen
based on this is it not justified that it should cost less ??? |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
51
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:01:00 -
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No need for a full lesson here , I know the game
and I get we have the speed advantage but that means little and less versus an AR/SR/LR/MD
also ill put a word in for my scout comrades they need cheaper suits as well - How can we make profit when going up v HP tanks???
and seen as the Amarr are more advanced , there gear is supposedly better than most other's where as Minmatar are widely known across New Eden as scrap yard gypsies so again this should justify a price change |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:16:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:No need for a full lesson here , I know the game
and I get we have the speed advantage but that means little and less versus an AR/SR/LR/MD
also ill put a word in for my scout comrades they need cheaper suits as well - How can we make profit when going up v HP tanks???
and seen as the Amarr are more advanced , there gear is supposedly better than most other's where as Minmatar are widely known across New Eden as scrap yard gypsies so again this should justify a price change
Fair point. I think another problem is that there is no secondary market, but then that might actually make the scrappy gypsy suits you mention more expensive. ;)
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
340
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:00:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Forge Gun is an anti-material cannon that is a modified mining tool. A Plasma Rifle is not.
To the rest of things:
Minmitar are not meant for health. They are speed. Amarr are health, but less speed, slots, and other things. Gallente are armor tankers, so they'll have lows. Caldari are shield tankers, so they'll have highs.
(To be clear: This is the clear-cut description of the factions in Dust 514's restrictions.)
Each faction has strengths and weaknesses, ranging from their suits to their weapons. What you should really notice is the prices of standard basic frames to standard specialized frames.
Would you like to hear more?
I want to change your caldari they have two-four low slot as the tier goes up
I use everything
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
51
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:06:00 -
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yeah the player market or secondary market could really make or break this game
we shall see ... soon tm
I would like to see Speed Tankers get some form of ISK reduction though, we have suffered a lot since the Aim-Assist got pimped |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1959
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:09:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:shouldn't the crappy rust covered suit cost less ISK seen as you are guaranteed more deaths???
*looks at poster's portrait*
You call your own people's technology crappy? That's the finest gear in the whole cluster you traitor.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
51
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:14:00 -
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don't be so harsh
we got the weapons, MD/SMG/FP and Locus Grenades and RE, no complaints on our offensive options
what I am highlighting is the fact that our suits are nowhere near as tough as the other race suits on offer while we pay the same ISK
so think about it... I'm only trying to help a brother out |
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
365
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:19:00 -
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I think it should be flat across the races, but the prices of the roles should change. Scouts should be cheaper because they die a hell of a lot more. Commandos should be cheaper as they're ridiculously expensive as they are. And Medium frames should be a bit more expensive because lolmediums.
'Insert witty signature here'
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1963
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:20:00 -
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I find the lack of defenses just makes me fight more tactically. I've actually started fitting less tank and more sensor dampening lately and I do just fine... until I run into a squad of brick tanked mercs that are too afraid to travel in packs of less than six in anything other than proto. Then it becomes bloody. Remote explosives are pretty good at taking care of those guys though.
CCP just needs to finish the open market and figure out the industry tie-in to EVE and the price issue will take care of itself.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1963
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:21:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:I think it should be flat across the races, but the prices of the roles should change. Scouts should be cheaper because they die a hell of a lot more. Commandos should be cheaper as they're ridiculously expensive as they are. And Medium frames should be a bit more expensive because lolmediums.
Expensive scout suits are pretty damn stupid.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
52
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:27:00 -
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Commandos from my view are pretty good just under estimated and not used much once we get racial variants that will improve, they hit 240 HP melee dmg !!! I'm going to break faces when I get SP into Minmatar Commando
but it seems a few agree with me here,
Scouts and Minmatar need some love, as a -500 HP suit has to contend with militia suits topping 600 easy
Where is the love ??? |
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