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Levi McDaniel wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Levi McDaniel wrote:

So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support.

Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius.

That sounds very viable to me.

Viable? Come on, the Minmatar's favorite ammo according to the game is Depleted Uranium, it makes no sense why the Minmatar wouldn't use a more lethal round on the planet than EMP.

Obviously nuclear is greatly exaggerated, obviously these nuclear rounds aren't doing as much damage in eve a you are worried they would do in dust.

I'm simply debating the fact that (if not all races) minmatar should have more selection in the ammo type they provide for orbital. They need to rethink orbital ammo and make it universal across the board, probably could add a module specifically for orbital strikes, That would still give my thrasher it's guns plus I could swap the turret with the ob mod.

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Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 53	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:00:00 - [1] - Quote So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4294	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:02:00 - [2] - Quote Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius. That sounds very viable to me. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1832	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:07:00 - [3] - Quote Out of ALL the things you could b**** and moan about, you find THIS?! I'm truly at a loss for words right now. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 286	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:09:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius. That sounds very viable to me. With the equipment spam these days, hell yeah "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5402	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:09:00 - [5] - Quote The EMP strike has excellent utility for clearing equipment. Outpost full of uplinks? EMP it. Everything gets cleared, even stuff in walls. This has plenty of value, especially in uplink spamming matches. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 894	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:09:00 - [6] - Quote Wouldnt the large flux radius affect teamates as well? You have to be very close to the target to make use of a sudden shield drain. I could see why it would be useful in domination with uplink spam.
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:10:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius. That sounds very viable to me. Viable? Come on, the Minmatar's favorite ammo according to the game is Depleted Uranium, it makes no sense why the Minmatar wouldn't use a more lethal round on the planet than EMP. Obviously nuclear is greatly exaggerated, obviously these nuclear rounds aren't doing as much damage in eve a you are worried they would do in dust. I'm simply debating the fact that (if not all races) minmatar should have more selection in the ammo type they provide for orbital. They need to rethink orbital ammo and make it universal across the board, probably could add a module specifically for orbital strikes, That would still give my thrasher it's guns plus I could swap the turret with the ob mod.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2357	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:12:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius. That sounds very viable to me. Problem is in PC it hits your guys as well. And as a MASSIVE emp blast that damn near hits the entire map it will hit your guys. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:12:00 - [9] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Out of ALL the things you could b**** and moan about, you find THIS?! I'm truly at a loss for words right now. Out of all the post you could be commenting on that is more relevant to you, you decide to choose this and that comment? I'm not at all for a loss of words. Here I am advocating for some EVE side stuff. You want to complain about weapons and nerfing etc, go for it. No one is stopping you. I'm pushing for more reasons for me to get involved with one universe//one war.
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:15:00 - [10] - Quote OK, so I think anyone can get on board the idea of a universal highslot OB module that allows you to switch ammo types to provide the necessary strike, rather than the current mechanics of using your turrets and being limited to one type of ammo. And anyone who says add all types of turrets, that's not viable for pvp or anything for that matter.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4295	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:17:00 - [11] - Quote Levi McDaniel wrote: True Adamance wrote: Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Really? Capacity to nuke and overload all of the equipment and shields of targets in the massive vicinity of the OB radius. That sounds very viable to me. Viable? Come on, the Minmatar's favorite ammo according to the game is Depleted Uranium, it makes no sense why the Minmatar wouldn't use a more lethal round on the planet than EMP. Obviously nuclear is greatly exaggerated, obviously these nuclear rounds aren't doing as much damage in eve a you are worried they would do in dust. I'm simply debating the fact that (if not all races) minmatar should have more selection in the ammo type they provide for orbital. They need to rethink orbital ammo and make it universal across the board, probably could add a module specifically for orbital strikes, That would still give my thrasher it's guns plus I could swap the turret with the ob mod. I very rarely see depleted uranium in the warzone. EMP tends to be what I see most off, and what I loot most of wrecked vessels. Of course all races should have more choice in Ammo types but then again so far CCP has more important things to work on, that worrying about turret types on EVE ships considering only a very small player base of EVE pilots even care about us. I can fly an races Destroyed to Tech II with turrets and ammo..... it didn't take that long to train. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:24:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I very rarely see depleted uranium in the warzone. EMP tends to be what I see most off, and what I loot most of wrecked vessels. Of course all races should have more choice in Ammo types but then again so far CCP has more important things to work on, that worrying about turret types on EVE ships considering only a very small player base of EVE pilots even care about us. I can fly an races Destroyed to Tech II with turrets and ammo..... it didn't take that long to train. Under descriptions of ammo depleted uranium is the most popular. EMP is not what I see the most of, as a minmatar PVP pilot, it's phased plasma, fusion, or barrage, maybe titanium sabot for frigs if I am flying a bigger ship. EMP is rarely used by PVP pilots since it's really only good against shields anyway. Phased Plasma mimics lasers and hybrid turrets in the sense it is thermal and kinetic, hence why people use it more than EMP.
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1832	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:25:00 - [13] - Quote Levi McDaniel wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Out of ALL the things you could b**** and moan about, you find THIS?! I'm truly at a loss for words right now. Out of all the post you could be commenting on that is more relevant to you, you decide to choose this and that comment? I'm not at all for a loss of words. Here I am advocating for some EVE side stuff. You want to complain about weapons and nerfing etc, go for it. No one is stopping you. I'm pushing for more reasons for me to get involved with one universe//one war. The thing is the Minmatar EMP Orbital strike is a viable strike, IT TAKES OUT SHIELDS AND EQUIPMENT, that means.... No more uplinks No more nanohives No more player shields No more vehicle shields But you're complaining because it doesn't "kill" like the other orbital strikes. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4295	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:31:00 - [14] - Quote Levi McDaniel wrote: True Adamance wrote: I very rarely see depleted uranium in the warzone. EMP tends to be what I see most off, and what I loot most of wrecked vessels. Of course all races should have more choice in Ammo types but then again so far CCP has more important things to work on, that worrying about turret types on EVE ships considering only a very small player base of EVE pilots even care about us. I can fly an races Destroyed to Tech II with turrets and ammo..... it didn't take that long to train. Under descriptions of ammo depleted uranium is the most popular. EMP is not what I see the most of, as a minmatar PVP pilot, it's phased plasma, fusion, or barrage, maybe titanium sabot for frigs if I am flying a bigger ship. EMP is rarely used by PVP pilots since it's really only good against shields anyway. Phased Plasma mimics lasers and hybrid turrets in the sense it is thermal and kinetic, hence why people use it more than EMP. Valid points and I agree with you. But the strike is far from useless. Watching Gallenteans use that in FW a couple of days ago, just walking through the barrage......that was scary as hell. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Llast 326 An Arkhos 558	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Levi McDaniel wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Out of ALL the things you could b**** and moan about, you find THIS?! I'm truly at a loss for words right now. Out of all the post you could be commenting on that is more relevant to you, you decide to choose this and that comment? I'm not at all for a loss of words. Here I am advocating for some EVE side stuff. You want to complain about weapons and nerfing etc, go for it. No one is stopping you. I'm pushing for more reasons for me to get involved with one universe//one war. The thing is the Minmatar EMP Orbital strike is a viable strike, IT TAKES OUT SHIELDS AND EQUIPMENT, that means.... No more uplinks No more nanohives No more player shields No more vehicle shields But you're complaining because it doesn't "kill" like the other orbital strikes. Does the damage from the other orbital strikes Destroy uplinks Destroy nanohives Destroy players Damage vehicles I am apparently not the only fool
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:33:00 - [16] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: The thing is the Minmatar EMP Orbital strike is a viable strike, IT TAKES OUT SHIELDS AND EQUIPMENT, that means.... No more uplinks No more nanohives No more player shields No more vehicle shields But you're complaining because it doesn't "kill" like the other orbital strikes. Essentially yes, I think there should be more variety and people shouldn't be limited to one type of strike. If a Dust merc needs a different type of support, he should be able to communicate that to an eve pilot who should be able to change ammo and fire. Sorry that I was racial specific in minmatar only, this should apply to all races.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1363	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:04:00 - [17] - Quote Minmatar Republic -Making PC a better place. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4297	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:05:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Minmatar Republic -Making PC a better place. That's because PC pretty much in bang in the middle of Republic territory. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3020	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:06:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Out of ALL the things you could b**** and moan about, you find THIS?! I'm truly at a loss for words right now.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1363	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:08:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Minmatar Republic -Making PC a better place. That's because PC pretty much in bang in the middle of Republic territory. Which is why your corp will never be allowed to do PC As if you wanted to PC As if anyone really wanted to do PC Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4299	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:11:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Minmatar Republic -Making PC a better place. That's because PC pretty much in bang in the middle of Republic territory. Which is why your corp will never be allowed to do PC As if you wanted to PC As if anyone really wanted to do PC They don't want to....and its not my corp anymore. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1363	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:14:00 - [22] - Quote Grabs Logistics gk.0 "WTF, why are you tickling me?" Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 930	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:14:00 - [23] - Quote restricted to!?!?
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 273	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:31:00 - [24] - Quote It takes 8 minutes to get lvl 1 on any Small Turret in Eve
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4299	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:35:00 - [25] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: It takes 8 minutes to get lvl 1 on any Small Turret in Eve That's tough...oh trust me...waiting ten minutes..... Try waiting 50+ days for tech 2 large Lasers..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 69	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:40:00 - [26] - Quote Levi McDaniel wrote: So why is it the Minmatar, the race with the most selection of ammo types, is restricted to EMP orbital ammo? I mean lasers only do thermal, so that makes sense, and same for gallente, but Minmatar got the short end of the stick when it comes to orbital support. Are you kidding? EM orbital strikes are AWESOME! I'm not kidding. You have a squad that is defending an objective all fit armor style tanks. Then when the enemy comes to try to take the point they always spam TONS of equipment like nanohives and drop uplinks. So you wait till they are just starting to engage you and you call that EM strike right down on your position! It will not kill anyone, only wipes out shields, but it ALSO gets rid of EVERY drop uplink. Then, since you are armor tanking anyways and didn't need those shield you spam them with nades, mass drivers, and ARs and blammo they all die and have no local spawn points. So many uses for the EM orbital, I'm still baffled as to why more people haven't conceived of this **** yet.
Levi McDaniel NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 56	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:30:00 - [27] - Quote Right well thank you all, it's been very useless, note to self, next time just bring up the idea of an orbital bombardment module that extends to all races and can swap out ammo. If you think the idea of being able to receive support from your EVE side in whatever type of OB you need at the time is a dumb idea, then you are all idiots.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 337	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:05:00 - [28] - Quote The Minmatar race specific OB should be old refrigerators and scrap metal.


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