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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:54:00 -
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Everyone keeps saying that CCP should hold off on advertising until the game is stable. But the problem is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What one person thinks is the right time, many other may think it isn't, and vis-versa. CCP may think that this game will be ready to be advertised at the next major patch, but the community may disagree. How are we going to reach that agreement on when this game should be advertised? Some will always disagree, and wont want this game to be advertised until it is "perfect", yet perfection is impossible. Others may want it to be advertised as soon as possible, which might ruin this games reputation completely.
So when? when should this game be advertised?
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1364
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:00:00 -
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Finish basic balance, implementing of basic content Implement PvE 50% more content 100% more modes Tangible, evident Eve/Dust connection Improve Aurum microtransaction Market
Cheeseburgers.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2311
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:01:00 -
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When it comes out of beta.
No.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
573
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:01:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Finish basic balance, implementing of basic content Implement PvE 50% more content 100% more modes Tangible, evident Eve/Dust connection Improve Aurum microtransaction Market
So you want perfection then...
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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JL3Eleven
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:13:00 -
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6-8 months from now.
Whenever noobs are in academy for more that 3 weeks and a limit on new character is implemented. Also we need the Market asap.
LAV Dealer
Dust 514 started from the bottom now we here.
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Cass Caul
365
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:15:00 -
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I think it should try to seriously advertise the product when it opens tot he public. January 18, 2013 Or maybe upon full release, so until May 6th, 2013 at the latest.
E3, facebook, and youtube are not proper ways of advertising. The majority of gamers do not have subscriptions to gaming magazines.
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A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Jason Pearson
3151
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:31:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:When it comes out of beta.
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What DUST needs to have going for it before it's advertised is this: - Finishing the balancing - Introducing the rest of the basic suits and vehicles (I don't mean new types, I mean the Minmatar and Amarr Vehicles, and the rest of the dropsuts) - More maps - PC Balance - More obvious connection with EVE - Risk v Reward balancing - Player Market - SLAY
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire
Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
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Johnny Guilt
365
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:34:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Everyone keeps saying that CCP should hold off on advertising until the game is stable. But the problem is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What one person thinks is the right time, many other may think it isn't, and vis-versa. CCP may think that this game will be ready to be advertised at the next major patch, but the community may disagree. How are we going to reach that agreement on when this game should be advertised? Some will always disagree, and wont want this game to be advertised until it is "perfect", yet perfection is impossible. Others may want it to be advertised as soon as possible, which might ruin this games reputation completely.
So when? when should this game be advertised? The game already has a rep for being unfinshed and medicore, it's already ruined. Maybe when there huge player count war zone team based gameplay that isnt a clustered mess, then id highly advise it. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
674
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:34:00 -
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When a noob can start a scout militia and not go 3/167 in the first 10 battles.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5296
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:37:00 -
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It was hyped up before if you didn't pay attention to what happened back early this year (May 14). Unfortunately for Dust 514, the reception was extremely less than stellar and the criticism was harsh. This is why a lot of us here are holding back on advertising even to our own friends until this game finally blossoms as it should.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
573
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:38:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:When it comes out of beta. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What DUST needs to have going for it before it's advertised is this: - Finishing the balancing - Introducing the rest of the basic suits and vehicles (I don't mean new types, I mean the Minmatar and Amarr Vehicles, and the rest of the dropsuts) - More maps - PC Balance - More obvious connection with EVE - Risk v Reward balancing - Player Market - SLAY Balancing is something that can never be perfected.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1367
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:51:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Finish basic balance, implementing of basic content Implement PvE 50% more content 100% more modes Tangible, evident Eve/Dust connection Improve Aurum microtransaction Market
So you want perfection then... No, just everything that comes with 98% of any released title (other than the Eve/Dust thing...)
Cheeseburgers.
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
999
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:53:00 -
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As soon as they smooth out the new player experience (pve, getting vets out of "instant battle", Ect.)
A big market push before then would be wasteful because we wouldn't be able to retain any of the new players. |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:56:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:When it comes out of beta. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What DUST needs to have going for it before it's advertised is this: - Finishing the balancing - Introducing the rest of the basic suits and vehicles (I don't mean new types, I mean the Minmatar and Amarr Vehicles, and the rest of the dropsuts) - More maps - PC Balance - More obvious connection with EVE - Risk v Reward balancing - Player Market - SLAY Balancing is something that can never be perfected.
You're right, it can't be perfected but it shouldn't be as **** as it is, I mean I listed three types of balancing, the first was aimed at normal stuff, such as weapons and dropsuits, Heavies should be Heavies, Tanks should be Tanks. WP should be given for moire things, PC balance such as the massive payout you get when you dominate, it's dumb. And Risk v Reward, You risk more you win more, you risk nothing, you get barely anything.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire
Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
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Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
55
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:16:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Finish basic balance, implementing of basic content Implement PvE 50% more content 100% more modes Tangible, evident Eve/Dust connection Improve Aurum microtransaction Market
So you want perfection then...
No we want a game. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
576
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:18:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Zekain K wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Finish basic balance, implementing of basic content Implement PvE 50% more content 100% more modes Tangible, evident Eve/Dust connection Improve Aurum microtransaction Market
So you want perfection then... No we want a game. YOU CAN'T HANDLE A GAME!
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10720
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:22:00 -
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I think by the time we have racial parity the game will be in a much better state and maybe then.
This is only based on how fast they're getting racial gear in though.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2340
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:22:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:When a noob can start a scout militia and not go 3/167 in the first 10 battles. That's a badass noob, he got 3 kills!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
100
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Posted - 2013.11.25 08:32:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:When a noob can start a scout militia and not go 3/167 in the first 10 battles.
This, I have seen first hand many times how fast the protostomps get rid of new players. The only fix for this is to make PC and factional a place where vets WANT to be, matchmaking needs some work as well for that to happen but will not work until player numbers allow it to work properly.
TL;DR = Once PC and factional are good enough to draw the vets away from protostomping on an endless basis just to make sure they cap out we will be able to see newbies enter New Eden.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
915
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Posted - 2013.11.25 08:43:00 -
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- When a ping limiter comes in - Meta-based matchmaking - The fix of the terrain glitching to where they're unkillable but can still shoot you - More maps - Racial stuff - The rest of the racial stuff - Reduction of the unneeded grinding - The removal of Blueberry AI where they thrown themselves at the reds and go 0-20 - The keeping of the hilarious installation AI - When I can invade an Amarrian world and punch people in the face. - Removal of the broken PC system
You know, sometimes I wonder. Would people here do the worm if you took their crutches away? They're helpless as is.
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