DUST Search - WTH guys aren't you all supposed to be gone?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Sigh I am not bad at reading graphs, I just don't have the means to read the graphs like Mr. Veldspar does (and is a wee bit to lazy to figure API hooks out, I'm a hardware sort of tech person not software) . In order to measure the entire player base you have to measure the area of the frequency above zero for 30 instances of the frequency. Also all the math I been taught so far only measure area of a frequency if the frequency is bell shaped perfectly (normally distributed) which is highly possible to do if you rearrange the numbers on a single instance of the frequency. From there you get you find your deviation, tolerances, and zscores and do the math. Bunch of boring stuff really.

That aside your conclusion that new born players are not translating into new players participating has a factor you may not accounted for. That its counting characters, not accounts. So unless we know how many alts are being made a day we're having a bad means telling who's what. You are right to assumed that despite the alt factors that some of these new players should be translating to higher numbers throughout the day but like I said unless you're measuring the volumes of the frequency over a period of time you're not going to be getting an accurate number.


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Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:10:00 - [1] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Oct 26 active players: 4156 Oct 26 new players: 767 Nov 2 active players: 4180 Nov 2 new players: 667 ... where did all the new players from Oct 26 go? wait let's give Nov another chance. Nov 9 active players: 4398 Nov 9 new players: 661 getting better... so far 242 out of the previous 1434 new players stuck around. Maybe there is more to come? Nov 16 active players: 4073???? what happened? Nov 16 new players: 826 Let me get this straight... so far -83 of the previous 2095 new players of previous weeks stuck around? Lets do one more week: Nov 23 active players: 3875 Nov 23 new players: 801 Ok so far? -281 of the previous 2921 new players stuck around. Or better put... ALL new players have left and 281 vets have left... but you are right... today is a good day. Let's also keep in mind that Nov events were basically a bribe to all players to come back online. Imagine if there was no bribe?
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:20:00 - [2] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: ...but you are right... today is a good day. No today isn't a good day Ironwolf took the day which traditional has the highest population which is usually Saturday or Sunday . Lol you're right. My apologies. Sunday was a good day. That voids my entire argument.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:27:00 - [3] - Quote BTW, I forgot to mention: OP == fail!
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 142	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:03:00 - [4] - Quote Op? Are you there? You must be sick, are you ok? You have nothing to say to this, and you've found lots of cause to mindlessly argue in the past... don't you like numbers?
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 145	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:43:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sigh I am not bad at reading graphs, I just don't have the means to read the graphs like Mr. Veldspar does (and is a wee bit to lazy to figure API hooks out, I'm a hardware sort of tech person not software) . In order to measure the entire player base you have to measure the area of the frequency above zero for 30 instances of the frequency. Also all the math I been taught so far only measure area of a frequency if the frequency is bell shaped perfectly (normally distributed) which is highly possible to do if you rearrange the numbers on a single instance of the frequency. From there you get you find your deviation, tolerances, and zscores and do the math. Bunch of boring stuff really. That aside your conclusion that new born players are not translating into new players participating has a factor you may not accounted for. That its counting characters, not accounts. So unless we know how many alts are being made a day we're having a bad means telling who's what. You are right to assumed that despite the alt factors that some of these new players should be translating to higher numbers throughout the day but like I said unless you're measuring the volumes of the frequency over a period of time you're not going to be getting an accurate number. Ok so let's do it your way by only choosing days that support me. Where you took the highest day last week, I will take the lowest of days last week and compare it to the plataux of recent. And then I will win. Sound fair? Also... all this means is Dust is dying slower this month. Well done.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 147	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:16:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. I suck at reading? Maybe I do, cause clearly I suck at reading this line... couldn't possibly be that you suck at writing lol.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 147	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:29:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It did forced you to open the picture didn't it? Yeah... cause verifying a counter-argument's information source is considered un-intelligent. Well played.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 151	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:39:00 - [8] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: * Opens up troll thread * * Sees that troll thread was started by a CCP elected CPM * * https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=999109#post999109 * * Leaves thread * Seriously, not even exaggerating. Worst. CPM. Ever. You sure set the bar low buddy.