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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:51:00 -
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Hi there!
I'm here, as an unstoppable force of Love, to let you know a well kept secret. Many of you/us already do this unintentionally, but smarter guys knows it as an exploit.
What we call in my Unit "The Lag Room".
(videos showing this kind of behavior coming soon)
In simple words, it consists in spamming whatever deployable equipment you have next to certain points in the map. 30 + nano hive, 30 + drop uplinks. This will cause you to have a little frame rate problems, but will (strangely) cause the enemy team to:
- Have severe frame rate problems, with frame rate drops.
- Severe Lag.
- Have Bad hit detection.
We will show you how to do it, why some corps do it, intentionally or not. We will also show you what happen on the other side of the battle. Everytime.
CCP, This kind of behavior has already been reported many times via support ticket, and it's the same story since July. No precise answer has been made by you, so I'm showing players how to do it, in order to let you "see" how game breaking this problem is and in order to recognize glitch abusers.
If you want you guys can try it out.
Just letting you know that as soon as I scan a supply depot full of nanohives and drop uplinks I'll just leave the match.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:53:00 -
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=O
Here it comes...
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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:58:00 -
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Saw the enemy team doing this yesterday in Minmatar FW, oddly enough, I didn't have any framrate issues, even when walking through them, of course, the nanohive sound was so loud it caused the audio to glitch, but thats about it.
Even went 24/0.
Maybe in PC its worse, but in pubs, I dont notice a difference.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:58:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:=O
Here it comes...
IIt's going to be really really bad until they fix it ( just like....max Drop Uplinks per team?)
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:59:00 -
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drop emp every time. that's one solution. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:59:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Saw the enemy team doing this yesterday in Minmatar FW, oddly enough, I didn't have any framrate issues, even when walking through them, of course, the nanohive sound was so loud it caused the audio to glitch, but thats about it.
Even went 24/0.
Maybe in PC its worse, but in pubs, I dont notice a difference.
Well, actually looks like it depends on the map too.
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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:02:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:Saw the enemy team doing this yesterday in Minmatar FW, oddly enough, I didn't have any framrate issues, even when walking through them, of course, the nanohive sound was so loud it caused the audio to glitch, but thats about it.
Even went 24/0.
Maybe in PC its worse, but in pubs, I dont notice a difference. Well, actually looks like it depends on the map too.
I was in the Gallente Research Facility., at Objective A for most of the match.
I dont believe this is whats causing the lag in PC though, although it may have some effect on the performance, there has to be something else causing it.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:03:00 -
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low genius wrote:drop emp every time. that's one solution.
Exactly. Oddly enough, when you destroy anything there, the game starts running properly.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:06:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:Saw the enemy team doing this yesterday in Minmatar FW, oddly enough, I didn't have any framrate issues, even when walking through them, of course, the nanohive sound was so loud it caused the audio to glitch, but thats about it.
Even went 24/0.
Maybe in PC its worse, but in pubs, I dont notice a difference. Well, actually looks like it depends on the map too. I was in the Gallente Research Facility., at Objective A for most of the match. I dont believe this is whats causing the lag in PC though, although it may have some effect on the performance, there has to be something else causing it.
That's strange. It's one of the map. Anyway, I got video evidence, and will do more testing today. All previous test against our own corporation caused this kind of problems. It also cause ps3 to hard freeze and psn logouts. And they weren't really "playing" they was just judging how playable the games were.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:25:00 -
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CCP wrote:Fuckin Brilliant
"Just another piece of duct tape"
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Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:27:00 -
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Ancient Exiles enjoy this kind of stuff. Because sneaky, limp **** tactics > actual skill :D
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:37:00 -
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On the research lab in particular if that room with the supply depot gets taken by a team with a proto logi you're almost certain to lag out the opposing team. This happens in any mode on that map. By lagging the other team out they cannot take any inside objectives so you really only have to push and hold it long enough to set up your lag room. Teams that normally play PC will easily bring your frame rate down to 1 or 2 FPS for the rest of the match within a few minutes.
It happens a lot and it's really annoying.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:12:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:On the research lab in particular if that room with the supply depot gets taken by a team with a proto logi you're almost certain to lag out the opposing team. This happens in any mode on that map. By lagging the other team out they cannot take any inside objectives so you really only have to push and hold it long enough to set up your lag room. Teams that normally play PC will easily bring your frame rate down to 1 or 2 FPS for the rest of the match within a few minutes.
It happens a lot and it's really annoying.
Yes. It happens in other Large sockets too, strange thing is that people's starting to abuse this even in pubs :/
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:18:00 -
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My ******* god...
Welp, off to ambush for me!
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:26:00 -
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Can confirm we abuse this tactic. We glitch to win in PC. 
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:30:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Can confirm we abuse this tactic. We glitch to win in PC.
Don't think so. I'm pretty sure it is unintentional. But now everyone knows it causes those kind of problems. And I'd really like everyone to abuse it, so that it will be finally fixed.
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:36:00 -
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CCP wrote:Well, we couldn't really do anything to stop this if we wanted things to be consistent with the New Eden code of conduct. You see, in New Eden, anything goes. We tip our hats to those smart enough to utilize the built in lag switch that we secretly deployed for ***** and giggles. In fact, as of 1.7, there will be even more hidden exploits to annihilate your opponents!
I once had 50m omnidirectional teleporting, infinite ammo, 0 damage, no overheat, no animations and the ability to reload or jump endlessly. It was great fun until I realized that the enemy team was completely OK and could still kill me, while I was using my infinitely heated up Laser Rifle to do 0 points of damage. Still don't know the reason for that one.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:19:00 -
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The problem is: why do PC lag so bad and public match are more or less enjoyable?
Why do they divide tournaments for rough region and PC have not both region locked districts and non region locked districts?
"Just another piece of duct tape"
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:41:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:The problem is: why do PC lag so bad and public match are more or less enjoyable?
The problem might be that. Usually, people don't spam nanohives and drop uplinks....
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:12:00 -
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shameless bump.
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:21:00 -
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All it takes is a couple fuse grenades and problem solved. All my fittings now carry fuse grenades for that very reason. If that doesnt fix the lag then move to another objective.
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calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:32:00 -
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Primes Flux and let the points shower me, its like coins raining from the sky.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:19:00 -
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...This sounds like a job for a flux grenade i carry at all times! 150 free points from one set of equipment right there if there are 30!
Dedicated scout. Because the suit is underpowered. Imagine the good ones when we get buffed people ;)
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:44:00 -
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Ok more testing has been made today.
We set 18 Nanohives and 12 Drop Uplinks. We had, for the first time, the same problem the enemies were having. It was Unplayable, for them and for us. We had to throw a ton of grenades in order to empty all the nanohives. Anyway, that's a proof. We will film everything tomorrow, hopefully.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.11.24 04:22:00 -
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Another shameless bump. Moar people have to acknowledge.
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.11.24 04:36:00 -
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The more bumps the better....except for genitilia:/ |
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Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 05:07:00 -
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PC lag has nothing to do with equipment, as it starts the moment you deploy long before ANY equipment is on the field or gradually starts towards the second half of the match when most equipments usually gone, so PC lag is definitely just PC lag.
And the few times I've ever had FPS drops with slight input delay and slight rubberbanding have always been on the new maps and never been equipment heavy at all. We're talking a few uplinks I laid down and thats IT for BOTH teams.
I also sometimes like to lay down EVERY SINGLE uplink and nanohive in the game except templar BPO links at a supply depot to light it up like christmas, and none of the times i have done that since 1.3 have lagged at all.
Whatever the lag is, its probably a problem trying to load and render the new maps as you're playing them, but from my experience and testing, equipment hasn't mattered for a few patches now. |
Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 06:33:00 -
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Why does Maphia clan run full team proto stomps in pubs? Makes the game really unfun sometimes and im sure its discouraging to the newbies you mop the floor with. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.11.24 13:24:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:PC lag has nothing to do with equipment, as it starts the moment you deploy long before ANY equipment is on the field or gradually starts towards the second half of the match when most equipments usually gone, so PC lag is definitely just PC lag.
And the few times I've ever had FPS drops with slight input delay and slight rubberbanding have always been on the new maps and never been equipment heavy at all. We're talking a few uplinks I laid down and thats IT for BOTH teams.
I also sometimes like to lay down EVERY SINGLE uplink and nanohive in the game except templar BPO links at a supply depot to light it up like christmas, and none of the times i have done that since 1.3 have lagged at all.
Whatever the lag is, its probably a problem trying to load and render the new maps as you're playing them, but from my experience and testing, equipment hasn't mattered for a few patches now.
We're still testing because I'm not sure about it.
Of course we need video evidence, so that we can analyze videos, looking for a possible cause/solution. We'll probably upload some videos today. For what I know, it could even depend on the ps3 version.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.11.24 13:32:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Why does Maphia clan run full team proto stomps in pubs? Makes the game really unfun sometimes and im sure its discouraging to the newbies you mop the floor with.
That's pretty Off Topic isn't it?
Let's see, I personally use a cheap Amarr ADV suit (40 000 isk), when I'm not having some fun oneshotting people's head with the Imperial Scrambler Rifle (that suit still costs me 70 000, pretty cheap). We just have fun in pubs: we'll set up "rules" so that for example, we'll all use plasma cannon and scrambler pistol, we'll play a full starter fit match etc. and i can guarantee that even if playing in starter fits the result is almost the same (I personally just die more by snipers). Then the matchmaking. For some reasons, I'm always stacked with other good corps.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.11.25 13:46:00 -
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Added video proof. More videos coming hopefully.
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