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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:26:00 -
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I've thrown a grenade onto the edge of the roof after cooking it enough so it would explode on the edge. I killed two people, so I thought "cool". Did it again, and again killed two people. "Awesome" Did it again, and again killed two people.
And you know what I did after doing that? Thrown down a gauged nanohive and continued on my marry way, throwing grenades at any threat I see.
I don't think that's how it's supposed to be done.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Reav Hannari Reav Hannari](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1913
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:31:00 -
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Yes, grenades should suck up more of the hives. The real stupid is that people kept standing on the edge of that roof.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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![Ridire Greine Ridire Greine](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:33:00 -
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This never works with me.
I perfectly cook a grenade under an enemie's feet, he steps on it, and it explodes, but he takes no damage.
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This game hates me.
Property of Knight SoiaireGäó
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![Yagihige Yagihige](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
403
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:34:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Yes, grenades should suck up more of the hives. The real stupid is that people kept standing on the edge of that roof.
They already do. Nanohives last just a fraction of the usual time if you keep getting grenades from them.
em ta kool t'nod
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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
3913
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:34:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:This never works with me. I perfectly cook a grenade under an enemie's feet, he steps on it, and it explodes, but he takes no damage. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) This game hates me. Tip: Cook it so it would airburst above their heads. Grenades can get headshots :)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Takahiro Kashuken Takahiro Kashuken](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1759
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:38:00 -
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Simple
Only carry 1 nade Nanohives do not resupply nades Nades can only be resupplied at depots |
![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
3914
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:41:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Simple
Only carry 1 nade Nanohives do not resupply nades Nades can only be resupplied at depots Hehehe.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Ridire Greine Ridire Greine](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:42:00 -
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Yep, needs to be reduced to 1 Nade, and the Fused need to be removed so people dont start using them instead.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1748
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:44:00 -
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How about reduce the #carried to 2 or make them have slightly higher cpu/pg requirements?
Idk but I am finding the nade spam more and more annoying
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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![Ghosts Chance Ghosts Chance](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
217
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:45:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Yep, needs to be reduced to 1 Nade, and the Fused need to be removed so people dont start using them instead.
i dont really think they need to be removed as much as just need to be ALOT weaker.
i mean theres a whole impact mechanism in that thing but it STILL packs in more explosive power in the same space...
that and it would make for decent balance, cooked granades for power, fused for speed but less power.
that and only carry one granade at a time |
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![Thanatus Sleep Thanatus Sleep](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Thanatus Sleep
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:10:00 -
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Where do grenades come from, if nanohive hold the self-replicating nanite that make ammo and do armour repair.
If nanohive can make anything why can't it make ISK, **** why can't a merc tape a nanohive on himself.
Im a sad merc
Aq-Rg
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![Cody Sietz Cody Sietz](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
1524
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:13:00 -
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Core Locus grenades are a wee bit ridiculous. |
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Dachande Anasazi
Imperfect Bastards
106
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:18:00 -
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anyone try the contact thusker nades?
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![Spectral Clone Spectral Clone](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
581
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:20:00 -
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Since 1.7 will be the biggest update so far, it should include a nerf of the core grenade. Dust might actually become about gungame rather than cheesy tactics.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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![MINA Longstrike MINA Longstrike](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've thrown a grenade onto the edge of the roof after cooking it enough so it would explode on the edge. I killed two people, so I thought "cool". Did it again, and again killed two people. "Awesome" Did it again, and again killed two people.
And you know what I did after doing that? Thrown down a gauged nanohive and continued on my marry way, throwing grenades at any threat I see.
I don't think that's how it's supposed to be done.
Still working on that quota of stupid posts I see. |
![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:27:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I've thrown a grenade onto the edge of the roof after cooking it enough so it would explode on the edge. I killed two people, so I thought "cool". Did it again, and again killed two people. "Awesome" Did it again, and again killed two people.
And you know what I did after doing that? Thrown down a gauged nanohive and continued on my marry way, throwing grenades at any threat I see.
I don't think that's how it's supposed to be done. Still working on that quota of stupid posts I see. Actually, just play a PC match. See how "balanced" grenades are.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Rowdy Railgunner Rowdy Railgunner](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Rowdy Railgunner
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:31:00 -
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I killed 5 people that were rushing me with a cooked M1 Locus before. I felt like a king of the after life. Yeah they killed me but there ain't no coming back from a grenada man. Oh yeah the logi that was repping me got me right back into the fight. Never betray a good logi, unless they are on the other team, then it is okay to kill them with fire. |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:02:00 -
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It's a ******* grenade, how pussified do they need to be? Reload from ONLY Supply Depots is the only thing needed to help curb their use.
This is a gun game. **** is going to kill you and you don't have to like it.
Cheeseburgers.
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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
3920
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:04:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:It's a ******* grenade, how pussified do they need to be? Reload from ONLY Supply Depots is the only thing needed to help curb their use.
This is a gun game. **** is going to kill you and you don't have to like it. One grenade per person and only resupply through depots. A grenade is already a free kill, don't need three of those.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Mortedeamor Mortedeamor](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:20:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Yes, grenades should suck up more of the hives. The real stupid is that people kept standing on the edge of that roof. higher end grenades do suck up more..i can kill an ishukone gauged nano pretty quickly with lai dai packed nades |
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![Fizzer94 Fizzer94](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:56:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:It's a ******* grenade, how pussified do they need to be? Reload from ONLY Supply Depots is the only thing needed to help curb their use.
This is a gun game. **** is going to kill you and you don't have to like it. Grenades as they are are unbalanced. We need to look to Halo for a good example of grenade balance, not COD1shotnades. In Halo, the only grenade that will kill a person at full health is a plasma grenade... that is stuck to them.
Grenades should never be a 1 shot kill, unless it is stuck to them. Add an new "Specialist" Locus Grenade. It will stick to walls, vehicles, the ground, and people. Core Locus Grenades should do 300 damage. Advanced: 275 Standard: 250 "Specialist" Grenades get a 'stuck' bonus of 200% damage.
They should not be restockable from nanohives.
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Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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![Cat Merc Cat Merc](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
3924
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Posted - 2013.11.23 15:57:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:It's a ******* grenade, how pussified do they need to be? Reload from ONLY Supply Depots is the only thing needed to help curb their use.
This is a gun game. **** is going to kill you and you don't have to like it. Grenades as they are are unbalanced. We need to look to Halo for a good example of grenade balance, not COD1shotnades. In Halo, the only grenade that will kill a person at full health is a plasma grenade... that is stuck to them. Grenades should never be a 1 shot kill, unless it is stuck to them. Add an new "Specialist" Locus Grenade. It will stick to walls, vehicles, the ground, and people. Core Locus Grenades should do 300 damage. Advanced: 275 Standard: 250 "Specialist" Grenades get a 'stuck' bonus of 200% damage. They should not be restockable from nanohives. They said they want to turn contact grenades into sticky grenades once the technology is there.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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![Sgt Buttscratch Sgt Buttscratch](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.11.23 16:25:00 -
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Shield damage. They need to make shields effective versus grenades, if it's 20% reduction on a core locus, that would bring the nade damage down to 500. So say I have 400 shield, the nade should take the 400, then the remaining 100 points of damge should get its +20% bonus to armor = 120. Making both shields and flux grenades useful again.
Blast radius: Needs to be feathered, so ground zero deals on a core locus 600, I'd say a 10% damage loss per meter in the grenades radius.
Resupply: IMO grenades should not be refillable from hives, it should require a supply depot or a new suit. That won't happen, too many of the bigger corps rely on core locus grenade spams during pub stomps, these are those player who CCP cater to. So maybe a 2nd cluster style added where a MLT/STD hive gives 1 nade back max, ADV:2, PRO:3. Then maybe introduce a minmatar nanohive variant that grants more nades in return a loss of armoregen or ammo regen.
Contact nades: Need to be brought back to a 3 count, just non refillable.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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![IR Scifi IR Scifi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:28:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Since 1.7 will be the biggest update so far, it should include a nerf of the core grenade. Dust might actually become about gungame rather than cheesy tactics.
Sadly if I've learned anything while playing this game is if you remove one cheesy tactic another even more cheesy tactic will appear. |
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