DUST Search - When is hmg fix?

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

calvin b wrote:

Here is an example of how off the HMG vs. AR is. If I had a 240 Gulf and you had an AR15 and I said come at me. I would rip you in half before you could take a few steps. No I am using a Gatling gun which has more range and damage output in RL but in a video game an AR can shred a heavily armored chain gun toting individual in seconds Shocked

is F***** stupid. I am not saying we need RL stats but not even in bizarro world could this S*** stand.

The Gatling gun in RL is more based off getting as many rounds down range as possible... purely because any of those rounds can be lethal in Real life. The AR in almost every case is more powerful and accurate in RL as well..

Transport those fact's to DUST.. where we have dropsuit's that self regenerate and can take fire from multiple weapon types... Even some who can take a sniper shot directly to the head and survive...

The Gatling gun where it's based around getting as many rounds down range and sacrificing power and accuracy to do so... has a natural disadvantage.

Heavies are confused all over this forum. They aren't supposed to be the "DPS" of DUST infantry... they are the "Tanks" and if they do both... its broken... and if they do both half decent it's broken... And that's where heavies are a giant confused clusterfuck

So we are used to die by what you just said. Are only use is a meat shield thanks for your input

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Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 109	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:34:00 - [1] - Quote I've seen the videos and all but when is the fix we need it and I dc about the heavy suit it's fine the hmg needs fixing I'd love to know when 1.7, 1.8, 3.9? When CCP when We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 281	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:35:00 - [2] - Quote When pigs fly out CCP's butt The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! ~ Proud Sniper Scout
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1520	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I've seen the videos and all but when is the fix we need it and I dc about the heavy suit it's fine the hmg needs fixing I'd love to know when 1.7, 1.8, 3.9? When CCP when I'd say after or as the time as scouts.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 346	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:42:00 - [4] - Quote CCP are scared to fix the HMG. There scared of the inevitable flood of QQ. {:)}{3GÇó>
Chesty Ranger SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 26	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:00:00 - [5] - Quote My HMG is melting faces on the daily. The old sharpshooter skill that add range to the weapon would be nice!
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 149	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:13:00 - [6] - Quote It needs range increase.........heavies need a mid range anti infantry weapon.....this will help balance heavies out a bit......I'm tired of being FORCED to use light weapons......
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1596	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:19:00 - [7] - Quote While the HMG is clearly not working as intended, knowing how it actually works currently has made it a viable weapon for me again.
Oswald Rehnquist 656	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:22:00 - [8] - Quote It was said somewhere that scouts and heavies (and their weapons) were after vehicles, which to me says, 1.8 1.9 2.0 Below 28 dB
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 249	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:30:00 - [9] - Quote Odd little tidbit, in the 'Neocom' app, under database-infantry-skills, there is a skill labeled 'HMG Sharpshooter' it's description states '+4% to HMG effective range per level' there is also a 'heavy weapon sharpshooter' which is general +3%, and heavy weapon Rapid Reload, which is 3% to reload of all heavy weapons. Also included, are 'Hw fitting Op', 'Hw Capacity' and i believe another... -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 109	Posted - 2013.11.23 00:23:00 - [10] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Odd little tidbit, in the 'Neocom' app, under database-infantry-skills, there is a skill labeled 'HMG Sharpshooter' it's description states '+4% to HMG effective range per level' there is also a 'heavy weapon sharpshooter' which is general +3%, and heavy weapon Rapid Reload, which is 3% to reload of all heavy weapons. Also included, are 'Hw fitting Op', 'Hw Capacity' and i believe another... Hey bud hate to burst your bubble but only ars and SMG's have sharpshooter hmgs DO NOT have sharpshooter skill. Please look before typing things and sounding dumb. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

Jane Madson DIRTY LAUNDRY 514 146	Posted - 2013.11.23 00:32:00 - [11] - Quote Dang, i miss chromosone build. Wish my hmg was that good again closed beta vet, lifetime fatty
Rusty Shallows 539	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:03:00 - [12] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: While the HMG is clearly not working as intended, knowing how it actually works currently has made it a viable weapon for me again. Murder Taxing and picking your fights works wonders. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 981	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:08:00 - [13] - Quote Here is an example of how off the HMG vs. AR is. If I had a 240 Gulf and you had an AR15 and I said come at me. I would rip you in half before you could take a few steps. No I am using a Gatling gun which has more range and damage output in RL but in a video game an AR can shred a heavily armored chain gun toting individual in seconds is F*** stupid. I am not saying we need RL stats but not even in bizarro world could this S* stand. Do not eat the yellow snow
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 345	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:10:00 - [14] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I've seen the videos and all but when is the fix we need it and I dc about the heavy suit it's fine the hmg needs fixing I'd love to know when 1.7, 1.8, 3.9? When CCP when With new weapons completely changing the range dynamic of DUST coming up... I'm sure they are taking a "wait and see" stance on what happens to the balance of the HMG. Having a heavy suit with bonuses actually based around heavy weaponry might be nice... but laser weaponry bonuses for the future is nice? i guess?
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 881	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:12:00 - [15] - Quote If they give it proper weapon spread, then I'm willing to agree with the range buff.
The Terminator T-1000 The Praetorian Legionary 60	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:15:00 - [16] - Quote probably never
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 345	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:18:00 - [17] - Quote calvin b wrote: Here is an example of how off the HMG vs. AR is. If I had a 240 Gulf and you had an AR15 and I said come at me. I would rip you in half before you could take a few steps. No I am using a Gatling gun which has more range and damage output in RL but in a video game an AR can shred a heavily armored chain gun toting individual in seconds is F*** stupid. I am not saying we need RL stats but not even in bizarro world could this S* stand. The Gatling gun in RL is more based off getting as many rounds down range as possible... purely because any of those rounds can be lethal in Real life. The AR in almost every case is more powerful and accurate in RL as well.. Transport those fact's to DUST.. where we have dropsuit's that self regenerate and can take fire from multiple weapon types... Even some who can take a sniper shot directly to the head and survive... The Gatling gun where it's based around getting as many rounds down range and sacrificing power and accuracy to do so... has a natural disadvantage. Heavies are confused all over this forum. They aren't supposed to be the "DPS" of DUST infantry... they are the "Tanks" and if they do both... its broken... and if they do both half decent it's broken... And that's where heavies are a giant confused clusterfuck
Thanatus Sleep 17	Posted - 2013.11.23 01:24:00 - [18] - Quote AR is the HMG fixs *Im a sad merc* Aq-Rg
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 110	Posted - 2013.11.23 02:05:00 - [19] - Quote Bethhy wrote: calvin b wrote: Here is an example of how off the HMG vs. AR is. If I had a 240 Gulf and you had an AR15 and I said come at me. I would rip you in half before you could take a few steps. No I am using a Gatling gun which has more range and damage output in RL but in a video game an AR can shred a heavily armored chain gun toting individual in seconds is F*** stupid. I am not saying we need RL stats but not even in bizarro world could this S* stand. The Gatling gun in RL is more based off getting as many rounds down range as possible... purely because any of those rounds can be lethal in Real life. The AR in almost every case is more powerful and accurate in RL as well.. Transport those fact's to DUST.. where we have dropsuit's that self regenerate and can take fire from multiple weapon types... Even some who can take a sniper shot directly to the head and survive... The Gatling gun where it's based around getting as many rounds down range and sacrificing power and accuracy to do so... has a natural disadvantage. Heavies are confused all over this forum. They aren't supposed to be the "DPS" of DUST infantry... they are the "Tanks" and if they do both... its broken... and if they do both half decent it's broken... And that's where heavies are a giant confused clusterfuck So we are used to die by what you just said. Are only use is a meat shield thanks for your input We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 346	Posted - 2013.11.23 02:17:00 - [20] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Bethhy wrote: calvin b wrote: Here is an example of how off the HMG vs. AR is. If I had a 240 Gulf and you had an AR15 and I said come at me. I would rip you in half before you could take a few steps. No I am using a Gatling gun which has more range and damage output in RL but in a video game an AR can shred a heavily armored chain gun toting individual in seconds is F*** stupid. I am not saying we need RL stats but not even in bizarro world could this S* stand. The Gatling gun in RL is more based off getting as many rounds down range as possible... purely because any of those rounds can be lethal in Real life. The AR in almost every case is more powerful and accurate in RL as well.. Transport those fact's to DUST.. where we have dropsuit's that self regenerate and can take fire from multiple weapon types... Even some who can take a sniper shot directly to the head and survive... The Gatling gun where it's based around getting as many rounds down range and sacrificing power and accuracy to do so... has a natural disadvantage. Heavies are confused all over this forum. They aren't supposed to be the "DPS" of DUST infantry... they are the "Tanks" and if they do both... its broken... and if they do both half decent it's broken... And that's where heavies are a giant confused clusterfuck So we are used to die by what you just said. Are only use is a meat shield thanks for your input No the Answer you guys want is more damage potential with more range on gun's... which makes sense given the range issues and the fact that everyone has range on you. I think Heavies more need a damage resistance to range damage input over 50m+ Heavies need enough health so that an Assault thinks twice about even using his bullets to attempt to kill a heavy solo... Not out tank all the classes and out DPS the DPS class..... Assault's are the same all their suit bonuses are around tanking... Not DPS... Logi's are the same... allt heir bonuses are around tanking and fitting more module's... and they havve a lot of module slots. It's not based around fitting equipment cheaply and efficacy of the equipment. Scout's... Well CCP clearly has just forgotten what they where even for... its so sad the most fun intensive class in the game turned into what they are now...



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