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        |  iceyburnz
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 1198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 11:12:00 -
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 So yeah "Rubicon".
 
 Eve's item database gives use some clues about the future.
 
 
 The Magsec SMG
 
 "The magsec is a semi-automatic firearm capable of sustained, accurate fire at ranges beyond what conventional sidearms can offer. A high-speed slider feeds current to a magazine of hyper velocity projectiles that are discharged with minimal separation, maximizing energy efficiency and reducing flux shear to produce a weapon with lethal kinetic potential.
 
 Having overcome early reliability issues, manufacturers have since taken advantage of the weaponGÇÖs modular design; the magsec has been made available in multiple combat configurations GÇô including optical sights and silenced operation GÇô and is in widespread service throughout the cluster."
 
 Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i365569-Chokemagnet-Kaalakiota-Magsec-SMG-details.html#ixzz2lBOCE8gq
 
 You forget to mention we would be getting a Caldari SMG soon(Gäó) too See See Pee!
 
 
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        |  Tech De Ra
 Electronic Sports League
 
 173
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 11:43:00 -
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 This has been in the eve DB for a good 3 or 4 months
 
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        |  Cat Merc
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 4577
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 11:46:00 -
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 Semi auto?
 Longer range?
 
 Can this even be called a submachine gun?
 Shouldn't it be like a carbine or something?
 
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 Public Disorder.
 
 837
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 12:52:00 -
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 We've known about the Magsec for a long time now. They released concept art months ago...
 
 [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. | 
      
      
        |  Lt Royal
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 2117
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 12:56:00 -
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 "silenced operation" how much you wana bet the silencer doent work....
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        |  Paran Tadec
 Imperfect Bastards
 
 1666
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 13:01:00 -
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 Lots of stuff in the eve db. None of it coming to TQ soon.
 
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        |  DEZKA DIABLO
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 58
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 13:42:00 -
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 The question is , do you have to spec into it like the combat rifle or does It land in the smg family?
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        |  Slag Emberforge
 Immortal Retribution
 
 128
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 15:14:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Semi auto?Longer range?
 
 Can this even be called a submachine gun?
 Shouldn't it be like a carbine or something?
 
 
 Bingo. Sounds more like a light weapon than a sidearm, but is love to have a long distance sidearm. So if it lives up I might have to look into it.
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        |  Roy Ventus
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 584
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 15:17:00 -
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 What would the silencer do? Not show your big red ass on the enemy's radar? If it actually worked like that, I'd approve >.>.
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        |  Snagman 313
 Carbon 7
 CRONOS.
 
 155
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.20 15:20:00 -
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 Sounds like a PDW or a Carbine as suggested above.
 
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        |  iceyburnz
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 1198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:23:00 -
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 Tech De Ra wrote:This has been in the eve DB for a good 3 or 4 months 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 Although unlike you who is obviously blessed with omniscience about all things dust and assumes everyone else is too. I was not aware of it until that day.
 
 Additionally, I only have your word its "been on for months".
 
 Either way, clich+¬d attempt to troll.
 
 Please stop.
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        |  Django Quik
 Dust2Dust.
 
 1756
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:28:00 -
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 DEZKA DIABLO wrote:The question is , do you have to spec into it like the combat rifle or does It land in the smg family? It will have it's own skill just like the rail rifle has a separate skill from the assault rifle. You only get one weapon type per weapon skill.
 
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        |  Smooth Assassin
 Stardust incorporation
 
 366
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:29:00 -
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 Step aside, let CCP do the talking.
 
 Assassination is my thing. | 
      
      
        |  Django Quik
 Dust2Dust.
 
 1757
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:34:00 -
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 As for the actual weapon itself, it will likely be similar to the breach SMG, so high damage, low ROF but with greater effect against shields and longer range than the regular SMG. However, I can't imagine a hugely great range on it beyond the regular SMG because it would be encroaching on light weapons like the rifles; maybe an effective range of 40m?
 
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        |  Oxskull Duncarino
 Shadow Company HQ
 
 241
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:50:00 -
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 iceyburnz wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:This has been in the eve DB for a good 3 or 4 months Thanks for your much needed and insightful input. Although unlike you who is obviously blessed with omniscience about all things dust and assumes everyone else is too. I was not aware of it until that day. Additionally, I only have your word its "been on for months".  Either way, clich+¬d attempt to troll. Please stop. No troll from him. A simple search would have soon you the truth that the magsec has been a confirmed weapon for a while, just no ETA on it. It's a burst SMG. For those who played Mass Effect I'm going to venture it'll be very similar to the burst SMG in that.
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        |  Django Quik
 Dust2Dust.
 
 1760
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 20:57:00 -
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 Oxskull Duncarino wrote:It's a burst SMG. For those who played Mass Effect I'm going to venture it'll be very similar to the burst SMG in that.  Burst is minmatar design, hence why there is no burst SMG.
 Breach is caldari.
 
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        |  Oxskull Duncarino
 Shadow Company HQ
 
 241
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 21:03:00 -
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 Django Quik wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:It's a burst SMG. For those who played Mass Effect I'm going to venture it'll be very similar to the burst SMG in that.  Burst is minmatar design, hence why there is no burst SMG. Breach is caldari. Yeh, I can't find the post where the burst side was talked about. To be described as a semi-auto long range SMG doesn't fully make sense unless the semi-auto refers to burst fire. We're just going to have to wait and see
  
 Here's the May post mentioning from the devs:
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=812865#post812865
 
 It was also data mined and talked about around the same time from Sisi
 
 Edit: Of course weapon descriptions don't conform to reality. Doesn't the flaylock description still mention a guided missile variant
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        |  Django Quik
 Dust2Dust.
 
 1760
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 21:15:00 -
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 Yeah, that description is odd - how can a "sub-machine gun" of any form be semi-auto? The regular SMG fires something like 16 rounds per second; even the breach is around 9 rounds per second. That's a lot of clicking to kill someone!
 
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        |  DeadlyAztec11
 Gallente Federation
 
 2181
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 21:34:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Semi auto?Longer range?
 
 Can this even be called a submachine gun?
 Shouldn't it be like a carbine or something?
 I hate that CCP keeps describing full auto weapons as "semi-auto". I am pretty sure the Minmatar SMG is labeled as "semi-auto" too... -_-)
 
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 2242
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.21 21:40:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Semi auto?Longer range?
 
 Can this even be called a submachine gun?
 Shouldn't it be like a carbine or something?
 SMGs can be semi automatic you know. Also its just longer range. Probably no farther then an AR shoots (Probably shorter still)
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