DUST Search - [Request] Add recoil to guns

Mobius Kaethis wrote:

Recoil should be based upon alpha damage. Higher alpha damage weapons should have higher recoil due to the caliber of round they are firing. This would actually add balance to higher tier weapons as well since yes they do more damage but this would come at the price of increased recoil.

The exception to this should be laser based weapons which should have 0 recoil since light cannot cause your weapon to buck up on you.

The list for recoil should look like this (from least recoil per round fired to most recoil per round fired):
1) Laser Rifle/scrabler rifle/scrambler pistol (recoil = 0)

2) HMG (it has tiny per shot damage so it should have the lowest recoil per round. This will be balanced by its ROF causing it to have significant recoil when fired in long bursts). And it weighs a assload

3) SMG

4) AR

5) Battle Rifle (coming soon)

6) Rail Rifle (coming soon)

7) Shotgun

8) Sniper Rifle

9) Flaylock

10) Mass Driver

11) Swarm Launcher

12) Plasma Launcher

13) Forge Gun

This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it.

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Agmundr Mckayne Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:30:00 - [1] - Quote as it stands now most guns have little to no recoil which increases accuracy and reduces TTK drastically. my suggestion is to add or increase recoil to most of the guns. this will cause guns such as the AR, and the SMG to be burst fired more often than full auto. full auto should still be an option but for close quarters only. likewise the HMG should still have the laser like precision but with much higher recoil and drift which would mimic bullet dispersion via the gun shaking so D*** much. so in terms of recoil amount from most to least HMG Rifles/AR SMG Shotgun Pistol what do you guys think?
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 949	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:50:00 - [2] - Quote Recoil should be based upon alpha damage. Higher alpha damage weapons should have higher recoil due to the caliber of round they are firing. This would actually add balance to higher tier weapons as well since yes they do more damage but this would come at the price of increased recoil. The exception to this should be laser based weapons which should have 0 recoil since light cannot cause your weapon to buck up on you. The list for recoil should look like this (from least recoil per round fired to most recoil per round fired): 1) Laser Rifle/scrabler rifle/scrambler pistol (recoil = 0) 2) HMG (it has tiny per shot damage so it should have the lowest recoil per round. This will be balanced by its ROF causing it to have significant recoil when fired in long bursts). 3) SMG 4) AR 5) Battle Rifle (coming soon) 6) Rail Rifle (coming soon) 7) Shotgun 8) Sniper Rifle 9) Flaylock 10) Mass Driver 11) Swarm Launcher 12) Plasma Launcher 13) Forge Gun This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it. In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
Bulletmonkey50 Savage Bullet 27	Posted - 2013.11.17 22:42:00 - [3] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it. That would make game play quite interesting... I like it.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1572	Posted - 2013.11.17 22:57:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Recoil should be based upon alpha damage. Higher alpha damage weapons should have higher recoil due to the caliber of round they are firing. This would actually add balance to higher tier weapons as well since yes they do more damage but this would come at the price of increased recoil. The exception to this should be laser based weapons which should have 0 recoil since light cannot cause your weapon to buck up on you. The list for recoil should look like this (from least recoil per round fired to most recoil per round fired): 1) Laser Rifle/scrabler rifle/scrambler pistol (recoil = 0) 2) HMG (it has tiny per shot damage so it should have the lowest recoil per round. This will be balanced by its ROF causing it to have significant recoil when fired in long bursts). And it weighs a assload 3) SMG 4) AR 5) Battle Rifle (coming soon) 6) Rail Rifle (coming soon) 7) Shotgun 8) Sniper Rifle 9) Flaylock 10) Mass Driver 11) Swarm Launcher 12) Plasma Launcher 13) Forge Gun This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Agmundr Mckayne Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:15:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Recoil should be based upon alpha damage. Higher alpha damage weapons should have higher recoil due to the caliber of round they are firing. This would actually add balance to higher tier weapons as well since yes they do more damage but this would come at the price of increased recoil. The exception to this should be laser based weapons which should have 0 recoil since light cannot cause your weapon to buck up on you. The list for recoil should look like this (from least recoil per round fired to most recoil per round fired): 1) Laser Rifle/scrabler rifle/scrambler pistol (recoil = 0) 2) HMG (it has tiny per shot damage so it should have the lowest recoil per round. This will be balanced by its ROF causing it to have significant recoil when fired in long bursts). 3) SMG 4) AR 5) Battle Rifle (coming soon) 6) Rail Rifle (coming soon) 7) Shotgun 8) Sniper Rifle 9) Flaylock 10) Mass Driver 11) Swarm Launcher 12) Plasma Launcher 13) Forge Gun This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it. sounds pretty good, my list was only about the total recoil caused by full auto.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 91	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:28:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius has something . Great work and these changes would bring a realism dynamic to the game . " Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 521	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:18:00 - [7] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: This should be combined with increasing amounts of barrel sway at lower levels of stamina. The less stamina you have the less able you are to keep your weapon aimed where you want it. myofibril stimulants should also reduce recoil because you're more muscley. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 888	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:42:00 - [8] - Quote I think you don't know what you are talking about. HMGs and FG both have significant recoil and many weapons have Skills to overcome basic recoil by limiting dispersion. CCP/Shanghai has a reasonable balance for recoil in my opinion. Have a tanker friend of your fire the largest rail gun turret they can mount. First have them fire it straight ahead and then at 90 degrees to the tank. That my fellow Merc is Recoil. I personally believe that this is yet another post that wants to remove the Win button from someone else. Or the perceived button that they believe exists, normally because of a recent loss or series of losses. HTFU. Find your own Win button, quit QQ about someone else having found theirs. Welcome to DUST.
Agmundr Mckayne Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:29:00 - [9] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: I think you don't know what you are talking about. HMGs and FG both have significant recoil and many weapons have Skills to overcome basic recoil by limiting dispersion. CCP/Shanghai has a reasonable balance for recoil in my opinion. Have a tanker friend of your fire the largest rail gun turret they can mount. First have them fire it straight ahead and then at 90 degrees to the tank. That my fellow Merc is Recoil. I personally believe that this is yet another post that wants to remove the Win button from someone else. Or the perceived button that they believe exists, normally because of a recent loss or series of losses. HTFU. Find your own Win button, quit QQ about someone else having found theirs. Welcome to DUST. i dont know where you come in with the Tank turret. so far the suggestions were for increasing recoil on handheld weapons. you can do full auto on an AR with minimal accuracy loss at the longer ranges for the weapon. and the HMG is actually far to accurate and acts more like a laser ever play a good fps game with assault rifles or LMG's? you know like ARMA or Battlefield? the weapons that can fire full auto tend to be very inaccurate while firing in full auto, which makes firing in short bursts better for mid-long range combat. there is a reason its called spray and pray
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 352	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:29:00 - [10] - Quote Machine guns dont have any recoil, just saying. Thats only in the movies, but then again this game isnt very realistic nor it intend to be i guess. Livin' large!

Agmundr Mckayne Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:37:00 - [11] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Machine guns dont have any recoil, just saying. Thats only in the movies, but then again this game isnt very realistic nor it intend to be i guess. well thats due to it being mounted, and honestly the mounted weapons shouldn't have recoil or nowhere near as much as the hand held weapons.
Cosgar ParagonX 7913	Posted - 2013.11.18 06:41:00 - [12] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: I think you don't know what you are talking about. HMGs and FG both have significant recoil and many weapons have Skills to overcome basic recoil by limiting dispersion. CCP/Shanghai has a reasonable balance for recoil in my opinion. Have a tanker friend of your fire the largest rail gun turret they can mount. First have them fire it straight ahead and then at 90 degrees to the tank. That my fellow Merc is Recoil. I personally believe that this is yet another post that wants to remove the Win button from someone else. Or the perceived button that they believe exists, normally because of a recent loss or series of losses. HTFU. Find your own Win button, quit QQ about someone else having found theirs. Welcome to DUST. This is actually a discussion to stop stuff like this from happening. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 136	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:30:00 - [13] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Machine guns dont have any recoil, just saying. Thats only in the movies, but then again this game isnt very realistic nor it intend to be i guess. All weapons have recoil. No weapon can violate the Third Law of Motion. Machine guns mounted on vehicles have no perceived recoil on the user, but only because the vehicle itself is taking the recoil.


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