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Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 386	Posted - 2013.11.16 03:25:00 - [1] - Quote I'm curious what people think about these corps like: Molon Labe WarRavens S.A.L.U.K.I. KILL-EM-QUICK Grupo de Asal... etc... That are locking their districts to save them in PC. Does CCP think this is a mechanic they want to keep? What do you all think about this? I personally think they are pussies (come at me bro). Those who can't hold their territory shouldn't own it. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1081	Posted - 2013.11.16 03:27:00 - [2] - Quote Ghhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy Fight in PC or get out of PC For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1018	Posted - 2013.11.16 03:36:00 - [3] - Quote If you have to lock a district, you are a cheap scrub who is incapable of keeping said district. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1940	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:06:00 - [4] - Quote You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1084	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:15:00 - [5] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? Yes because after you get a certain amount of ISK it does not matter not a big difference between 1bil and 10bil it just stops mattering how much isk you have at a certain point. If corps are willing to fight they deserve the ISK, the people who are not willing to fight don't deserve sht. Thor Odinson42 wrote:* I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. I think more corps should get the balls to stand up to these big corps. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
Name York 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 59	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:26:00 - [6] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. Unlock your meildolf districts. Pwetty pwease.
CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:31:00 - [7] - Quote PC has been broken since I started this game. It is unlikely to change any time soon. Ringers will likely not stop any time soon even if they did come out with a new version of PC. A good handful of corps, and some players have so much ISK it isn't even funny. There are reports of some "players" having billions of which they probably stole cough cough no names mentioned lol. I also hate to tell you but there is not a single serious corp in this game who don't lock at least a portion of their districts for the ISK advantage or used to be anyways. Molon for instance only does a portion, so if you are feeling froggy like Dark Legion, come try and take one that's open. See what happens when you meet my tank LOL.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 888	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:55:00 - [8] - Quote pc 2.0 is being developed right now. it's probably several months away, but I believe this kind of thing is going to be removed. I think if people push for it we can get a version of the current mechanic that will hold us over in a reasonable manner.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 942	Posted - 2013.11.16 04:59:00 - [9] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I think more corps should get the balls to stand up to these elite corps. I'm pretty sure you don't wanna fight "elite" like this, right? Personally, I don't. It happened three fking times today. Nyan San twice and Ancient Exiles. I'm pretty sure they're all good players but... just give me a break with this frame rate drop / uberlag... An unstoppable force of Rainbows. - First love-quitter in the history of video games.*
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2833	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:09:00 - [10] - Quote I'm staying out of PC not just because of the poor mechanics but the god awful lag that happens. Get your **** together CCP

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1941	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:44:00 - [11] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? Yes because after you get a certain amount of ISK it does not matter not a big difference between 1bil and 10bil it just stops mattering how much isk you have at a certain point. If corps are willing to fight they deserve the ISK, the people who are not willing to fight don't deserve sht. Thor Odinson42 wrote:* I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. I think more corps should get the balls to stand up to these elite corps. We've been here for months, where have you been? Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1941	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:46:00 - [12] - Quote low genius wrote: pc 2.0 is being developed right now. it's probably several months away, but I believe this kind of thing is going to be removed. I think if people push for it we can get a version of the current mechanic that will hold us over in a reasonable manner. I agree, not having the ability to buy a clone pack after owning a district would be a huge start. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1941	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:00:00 - [13] - Quote See how few views this thread is getting. It's pretty crazy, billions of ISK at stake and you'll get more traffic on a thread about getting tanks reimbursed after a DC. A big war is needed in MH to tip the balance and shake things up. But where is it going to come from? Who is in PC still? Which of the corps outside of PC want to spend 500,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 ISK going to war? We've done it several times. LOI vs ROFL LOI vs Eon FEC vs Eon Lots of people vs TP & AE in the name of STB Lots of people vs AE & OH (and sometimes two or three Pradox One) Eon is completely out of PC as is Public Disorder for the most part. There are no alliances outside of Proficiency V that are active in PC. And there is seemingly NOBODY that is willing to use their own people. Come get some, but I'll warn you though it's chewed up more corps than it's rewarded. Bottom line, get mad at CCP for PC not individual corps for whatever they do in PC. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1086	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:19:00 - [14] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? Yes because after you get a certain amount of ISK it does not matter not a big difference between 1bil and 10bil it just stops mattering how much isk you have at a certain point. If corps are willing to fight they deserve the ISK, the people who are not willing to fight don't deserve sht. Thor Odinson42 wrote:* I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. I think more corps should get the balls to stand up to these elite corps. We've been here for months, where have you been? I've fought in PC then i left PC, when i have time i'll go back, but there is no reason for me to stay in there and be a c*ck tease about it if i'm not going to be putting up a fight. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4505	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:38:00 - [15] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. Isn't this what people wanted? "DOWN WITH EON!!! AAAAAARRRGH!" ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 114	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:39:00 - [16] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. So you admit to locking your districts. Also I always had or did have much respect for molon labe and the fact that you cant be man enough not to retaliate at Cenex doesn't make you any better then our one person that cant help but come on the forums and talk crap. You should have plenty of isk from locking your districts though so why would you need isk for a clone pack. Also good luck on whipping my ass all over the battlefield. That made me laugh I have to say. Maybe if you ever unlock your disticts we can come remove you from them. You talk a lot of big talk yet our districts are always online if not under enemy attack. That's more then I can say for you Thor and your corp. You hide and then come on here to defend and justify your actions lol. You said you do it because everyone else does yet in actuality you do it because you are scared of losing. Your like these top tier corp guys that leaves battle because they are gonna screw up their KDR so they wont get in the next big thing to come along. We always fight till the end no matter what. Our guys are not allowed to quit pubs or leave battle because the other team is stacked. I think doing it the hard way makes you stronger. How many big corps have came and gone. Fell apart after losing PCs. Yet here we stand stronger then we have ever been. If we lose our districts we just take another. That's the respectful way to do things and you guys are slowly losing my respect because you are cowards. Enjoy cowering in fear for we D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N fear nobody. We may lose but hey at least we aren't scared like you.
Scout Hunter II Pradox One Proficiency V. 7	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:59:00 - [17] - Quote Dont allow districts to be locked consecutively
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 456	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:59:00 - [18] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. False I eat blue waffles when i proto stomp.
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 114	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:01:00 - [19] - Quote I also meant to state that CCP made a war game and they probably didn't think that a bunch of pansies would just sit on their districts and be scared to fight. I mean why else would you play the game for. In actuality its corps like you that broke PC Molon. Not CCP.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 388	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:32:00 - [20] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. We defend our districts and, sometimes, we lose our districts. We are a corporation of honor in this honor-less hall of patrons. We have two districts because that is what we earned and that is all we are able to hold, at this present time. We do not cry like bitches when we lose them. We continue on and fight again, another day, and recover slowly gaining our name and our right to own districts. You wimps and your ***** tactics lock your districts that you can't even hold. You complain about ringers. We fight ringers every night. If we lose then we did not deserve to own the district. This is what makes us stronger. Our men (and lovely women) fight and learn with every battle. With every loss we become better and we adapt or we die. With every victory we earn our titles and we earn our right to control more and more districts. Right now it's two districts. Tomorrow it may be more. I say it again. COME AT US BRO. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 84	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:35:00 - [21] - Quote ....Fight or leave, simple as that. I get locking the district if you win, but for changes, too? Makes no sense. We Who Walk Alone and GRU will take the fight to these "elite" Corps. Who's with us? I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 388	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:36:00 - [22] - Quote CELTIC TARON wrote: PC has been broken since I started this game. It is unlikely to change any time soon. Ringers will likely not stop any time soon even if they did come out with a new version of PC. A good handful of corps, and some players have so much ISK it isn't even funny. There are reports of some "players" having billions of which they probably stole cough cough no names mentioned lol. I also hate to tell you but there is not a single serious corp in this game who don't lock at least a portion of their districts for the ISK advantage or used to be anyways. Molon for instance only does a portion, so if you are feeling froggy like Dark Legion, come try and take one that's open. See what happens when you meet my tank LOL. Our districts are always open for the taking. If you can stand up to D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N then you deserve to own the district. Many have tried, many have beaten us. Indeed this is true. But there are countless others that have tried and have been defeated. When your corporation leadership reaches down in their trousers and finds an empty sack then feel ashamed to be a part of a group of cowards. Unlock your districts so that all may have the opportunity to show you up. You're Molon Labe. You should be able to defend your keep. And if not, so be it. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1943	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:14:00 - [23] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. Isn't this what people wanted? "DOWN WITH EON!!! AAAAAARRRGH!" People were playing the game. It was war, it was fun. If people can't see where I'm coming from then I'm not sure what to tell you. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1943	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:18:00 - [24] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: CELTIC TARON wrote: PC has been broken since I started this game. It is unlikely to change any time soon. Ringers will likely not stop any time soon even if they did come out with a new version of PC. A good handful of corps, and some players have so much ISK it isn't even funny. There are reports of some "players" having billions of which they probably stole cough cough no names mentioned lol. I also hate to tell you but there is not a single serious corp in this game who don't lock at least a portion of their districts for the ISK advantage or used to be anyways. Molon for instance only does a portion, so if you are feeling froggy like Dark Legion, come try and take one that's open. See what happens when you meet my tank LOL. Our districts are always open for the taking. If you can stand up to D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N then you deserve to own the district. Many have tried, many have beaten us. Indeed this is true. But there are countless others that have tried and have been defeated. When your corporation leadership reaches down in their trousers and finds an empty sack then feel ashamed to be a part of a group of cowards. Unlock your districts so that all may have the opportunity to show you up. You're Molon Labe. You should be able to defend your keep. And if not, so be it. I used to do this. I did this to STB when all their fights were filled with Team Players and Ancient Exiles. I used to get all fired up. When you are the only guy doing the honorable thing, maybe you aren't playing the game the right way. Just saying. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1420	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:25:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: You are gonna have to throw some more corps up there. I don't like it either, but would your rather 2 or 3 corps of 40-60 players end up with 100s of billions of ISK before PC 2.0 comes out? PC is the biggest embarrassment for CCP in regards to Dust. It should have been taken offline months ago. To be honest anybody out there will sell you a district for next to nothing. You can talk tough but go attack a district, you can almost guarantee it'll be a team of ringers you fight. It's crap. The mechanics are crap and CCP has admitted it, but they won't give it any serious attention until FW 2.0 hits. I think it's game breaking to have the top 60-80 players in the game to dominate access to billions and billions of ISK. I honestly think if more than 5-10% of the Dust player base understood how broken it is there would be uproar. I've said it in the war room that more people need to get territory and lock it up. Think about the market impact if only the top 100 players had access to proto BPOs. It's easy to talk tough, there is one active corp capable of beating AE (a 60ish man corp) and that corp (OH) joined forces with AE to devastate Molden Heath. Red Star is now out of PC leaving ZERO Eon corps in PC. I can tell you one thing though, I'll cover the cost of a clone pack to whip Dark Legion's ass all over the battlefield. Agreed, its the biggest pile of broken sht game mode I have ever played anywhere and a joke to any competitive gamer, it's literally not worth playing but I can understand if people are used to that kind of laggy sub par bull sht. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 312	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:30:00 - [26] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I think more corps should get the balls to stand up to these elite corps. I'm pretty sure you don't wanna fight "elite" like this, right? Personally, I don't. It happened three fking times today. Nyan San twice and Ancient Exiles. I'm pretty sure they're all good players but... just give me a break with this frame rate drop / uberlag... Yep, looks like about 2/3 of PC matches I've been in, in the last few months at least. Some are better, some are far, far worse. Sorry to say, that's what it's like, and that's what it will be like until CCP fixes it... I'm sure they will eventually. (Yes, I know, made myself laugh with that one too.) Have you* considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4509	Posted - 2013.11.16 18:52:00 - [27] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: People were playing the game. It was war, it was fun. If people can't see where I'm coming from then I'm not sure what to tell you. DOWN WITH EON!!!! LET'S GET EVERYONE AGAINST THEM AND KICK THEM OUT!!! FREEDOM!!!!!!! Well now you guys have all the freedom you want ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 649	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:44:00 - [28] - Quote No one likes this in our corps (I believe my corpmates share my opinion) but it's a broken mechanic that is being used in the typical CCP way - whatever it takes, adapt or die, stab in the back, etc.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 649	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:52:00 - [29] - Quote There should be a mechanic where the 300 top players should not be able to serve as ringers to control all PC - they simply should not be able to have enough free time to do this. There has gotta be enough battles going on at any given time that merc ringers could only focus on big battles of importance and newer players/less skilled would fight lower tier PC wars. Accordingly there has to be low level districs and highly profitable districts to give separate arenas to players of different skill. And it should never be profitable to lock districts. Right now we have broken PC and random pub ambush for noobs to be stomped on by Nian San.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1433	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:01:00 - [30] - Quote If Eve pilots controlled the pc territories and surface infrastructure of their choosing for their own gain and hired us to do things it would be a lot better I believe and a step in the right direction. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.



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