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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:59:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey guys.
Thanks for pulling this together. The issues been escalated and I've passed on the video. Whether or not it's working as "mechanically intended" I can't comment on yet, but will try to get a response for you when I know more. Could you please tell everybody, that it is no problem to implement recoil, which can't be bypassed by turbo controllers? Thanks. Many people think it is impossible. I'd honestly rather not comment (probably because I'd be wrong) and would rather have the design guys take a look. :)
As a senior software engineer, I can confirm that it would not be impossible. The logic is simple: You fire a round (yes even one) your gun recoils. the next shot does the same, so on and so forth. what you are seeing is the result of no recoil on the first shot. Silly. This means your first shot is a freebie which is not realistic. This bug also appears on SMG. if you want to test it, instead of holding down your trigger, pump the trigger. No recoil. Silly.
This probably applies to most spray and pray weapons and was probably implemented to mask horrible HD. Now that HD is amazing, this is one more ban-aid ready to come off, that is covering up some faded soggy skin which is ripe with poor development practices. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:57:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:
They hot fixed the sprint/fire glitch for the MD and shotgun almost overnight. Let's see how "fast" this gets fixed when even devs are saying this is "by design" whether to save face or due to inexperience.
Don't hold your breath. The majority of their "clients" are AR . The big portion of the money comes from them. If they fix this bug, if they fix the OP-ness of AR, there will be a mass flooding of AR tears. This means less AR money. CCP's hands are tied: hold true to the nature of diversity that is Dust 514 and feel the wrath of the majority of their clients or appease the masses and make money to pay their devs... As "wrong" as it is to sell out to the almighty dollar, There would be no Dust 514 if the devs don't get paid. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:08:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Cosgar wrote:
They hot fixed the sprint/fire glitch for the MD and shotgun almost overnight. Let's see how "fast" this gets fixed when even devs are saying this is "by design" whether to save face or due to inexperience.
Don't hold your breath. The majority of their "clients" are AR . The big portion of the money comes from them. If they fix this bug, if they fix the OP-ness of AR, there will be a mass flooding of AR tears. This means less AR money. CCP's hands are tied: hold true to the nature of diversity that is Dust 514 and feel the wrath of the majority of their clients or appease the masses and make money to pay their devs... As "wrong" as it is to sell out to the almighty dollar, There would be no Dust 514 if the devs don't get paid. They already get paid with eve money.
How confident about that are you? And even if that is true, a business can only survive off the profit of a sibling/parent for so long until someone decides it is just a money drain. Either way, Dust MUST eventually become self-sufficient if it is to continue. Thank the AR community for making this possible. The rest of us either need to "HTFU" as CCP says or else go pay for a game that is not dependent on Pay-As-You-Go income. While you may spend more money on those in one shot, there is no need to suck up to only one type of player.
It's funny I was just playing Mass-Effect 2 as a shotgunner (I'm picking up all the games I have put aside again). the idea of shotgunning in that game is lots of HP and Melee damage, instant distance closing and high DPS. in fact all the weapons are so perfectly balanced! No sucking up to AR players needed because you buy the game and then move on. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Cosgar wrote:
They hot fixed the sprint/fire glitch for the MD and shotgun almost overnight. Let's see how "fast" this gets fixed when even devs are saying this is "by design" whether to save face or due to inexperience.
Don't hold your breath. The majority of their "clients" are AR . The big portion of the money comes from them. If they fix this bug, if they fix the OP-ness of AR, there will be a mass flooding of AR tears. This means less AR money. CCP's hands are tied: hold true to the nature of diversity that is Dust 514 and feel the wrath of the majority of their clients or appease the masses and make money to pay their devs... As "wrong" as it is to sell out to the almighty dollar, There would be no Dust 514 if the devs don't get paid. I hope the devs are still reading this. This is how our community thinks you balance things. Prove us wrong.
I haven't seen any Devs replying to negativity/realism... It's unfortunate because I have a lot of questions that I would appreciate answers to but they come off as being negative and as such go unseen by the devs. I've never once had a dev reply. Probably cause I am a scout shogunner/NKer. Devs hate scouts. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:58:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:Currently we do not need anymore reasons to give new players to give up on Dust.
Or vets for that matter... |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:17:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:make turbo controllers illegal?
or incompatible with the game through some sort of devious coding system?...
Yeah... cause CCP excels at coding... |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:47:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:/pokes a dead dog with a stick
did you guys plan on fixing recoil mechanics
lol gl with that. |
Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:26:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:After a while youtubbing i have to say...i found several other gameplay videos where no-recoil is blatant... Just do a search and you will be surprised.
CCP's official stance on fixing exploitable AR bugs: ... |
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