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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4393	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 145	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:11:00 - [2] - Quote I wonder if anyone goes to the BF4 or COD threads and says that any of the weapons should be more like DUST514 weapons. Anyway, on topic. Flux airburst FTW. Launch that thing up over a camping position, take out all uplinks, nanohives and shields. Then run in with shotty for mass destruction. DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product. Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4393	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:17:00 - [3] - Quote CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote: I wonder if anyone goes to the BF4 or COD threads and says that any of the weapons should be more like DUST514 weapons. Anyway, on topic. Flux airburst FTW. Launch that thing up over a camping position, take out all uplinks, nanohives and shields. Then run in with shotty for mass destruction. Yeah well, if something is a good idea, there's no shame for iterating on it, *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
Dengar Skirata the third day Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:24:00 - [4] - Quote I've thought about the flaylock as well. I personally believe that it was nerfed one patch too early. I admit that it was OP, and once it was nerfed it was balanced. But in the very next patch, aim assist was added, making the flaylock under powered. Just look at the mass driver. It was considered ridiculously OP until aim assist was added. Now, it is just a very good weapon, but not OP. I know there are people who would argue with me about this, but I'm just stating my opinion.
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 491	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:26:00 - [5] - Quote I usually get a couple kills with the flaylock when I run my cheapo suit. It's pretty fun, I've though about using it as a main sidearm Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1223	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote: I wonder if anyone goes to the BF4 or COD threads and says that any of the weapons should be more like DUST514 weapons. Anyway, on topic. Flux airburst FTW. Launch that thing up over a camping position, take out all uplinks, nanohives and shields. Then run in with shotty for mass destruction. I would never go to a BF thread.....ever....
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 204	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:28:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. No because it would then be even more OP than it was a few months ago. You're talking about giving a sidearm that dishes out 500+damage in a second a 3 metre wide hitbox.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4393	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:31:00 - [8] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. No because it would then be even more OP than it was a few months ago. You're talking about giving a sidearm that dishes out 500+damage in a second a 3 metre wide hitbox. Did I give any specific number other than that 1.5 meter thingy? That's just a number I pulled out of my ass. Plus it does blast radius, not direct damage. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2199	Posted - 2013.11.14 20:37:00 - [9] - Quote What I want to know is what happened to the flaylock that was supposed to lock on to people?
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 205	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:14:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. No because it would then be even more OP than it was a few months ago. You're talking about giving a sidearm that dishes out 500+damage in a second a 3 metre wide hitbox. Did I give any specific number other than that 1.5 meter thingy? That's just a number I pulled out of my ass. Plus it does blast radius, not direct damage. If it detonates within 1.5 metres of someone, that person has a 3 metres wide hitbox, as the round will detonate within 1.5 metres of them on either side. Also, their vertical hitbox will be about 3.5 metres (their height plus 1.5 metres). So instead of having to hit a person sized object (or the ground near them) you'd have a vertical plane of more than 10 square metres to hit. We would definitely be in barn door and banjo territory.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10232	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:31:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. Why X? last I checked its the M-25. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4399	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:32:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. Why X? last I checked its the M-25. I remember an X. It's either XM25 or MX25. But I know for sure there is an X. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:38:00 - [13] - Quote Maybe add a detonate button? Then you could aim for the head and detonate when projectile reaches target.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4399	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:47:00 - [14] - Quote A-P-P-Baby wrote: Maybe add a detonate button? Then you could aim for the head and detonate when projectile reaches target. That could work. Remove ADS, which nobody uses anyway, and make L1 as detonate. *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 562	Posted - 2013.11.14 21:57:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've tried the XM25 airburst in BF4, and I loved how you can lock onto a wall for range, and then hit someone behind that wall with airburst grenades. Maybe the flaylock should airburst within a certain range of your enemy? So lets say a flaylock projectile went into 1.5m range from the enemy, it will explode and damage that enemy. The flaylock is underpowered, but I don't see how to buff it in a different way without creating new problems. Why X? last I checked its the M-25. M25 is a sniper. I think the SEALS use them.
A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:43:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: A-P-P-Baby wrote: Maybe add a detonate button? Then you could aim for the head and detonate when projectile reaches target. That could work. Remove ADS, which nobody uses anyway, and make L1 as detonate. Actually, I was thinking R1 to shoot and to detonate. Would balnce out the new ability with a slower fire rate. You can't fire again until you press detonate or it hits an object and explodes on its own.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1708	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:45:00 - [17] - Quote Yes. Do ittttt. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1158	Posted - 2013.11.14 22:52:00 - [18] - Quote I dunno, if it gets like that, then would it be impossible to get actual full-on direct hits? I think we should make it more like the TF2 Detonator, with a player-controlled air burst detonation feature. ECM Equipment
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 330	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:00:00 - [19] - Quote The flaylock is fine, "git gud".
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Proficiency V. 533	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:05:00 - [20] - Quote The XM25 is f***ed up in every game because game designers don't know how to do it right. The only game where it isn't is Metal Gear Solid 4, and that was a BEAUTIFULLY done; simple to use, extremely effective, with an authentic feel. COD and BFs renditions really sully the XM25s name in video games :/



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