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        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
 1044
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:32:00 -
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 Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 
 For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew? | 
      
      
        |  Ansiiis The Trustworthy
 We Pay The Iron Price
 
 391
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:34:00 -
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 I will be the first to abuse a building top + rail rifle combo. Proto with 3 dmg mods, here I come!!!!
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 Public Disorder.
 
 1223
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:35:00 -
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 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 
 I guess I will.
 
 how much sp is required for proficiency 5 in a weapon....
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        |  xSivartx
 Valor Tactical Operations
 Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
 
 9
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:35:00 -
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 Enough sp to proto both. I will take both to lvl 3-4 to try the variants and choose the one that feels the best for me.
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        |  Broonfondle Majikthies
 Bannana Boat Corp
 Relentless Heroes Alliance
 
 427
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:35:00 -
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 I love the Min weapons but will try them out gradually, maybe to level 4 max for the assault but will see how it goes then plug in the last few SP and let rip
  
 "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" | 
      
      
        |  Zatara Rought
 Imperfects
 
 1664
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:37:00 -
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 Prof 4 day 1...gonna love it.
 
 That's Master nader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó" | 
      
      
        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
 1044
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:38:00 -
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 calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 I guess I will. how much sp is required for proficiency 5 in a weapon.... 
 Pretty sure it is 1.5mil.
 
 For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew? | 
      
      
        |  Monty Mole Clone
 Shiv M
 
 83
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:38:00 -
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 calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 I guess I will. how much sp is required for proficiency 5 in a weapon.... 
 about 1.5 mill
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        |  Harpyja
 Royal Uhlans
 Amarr Empire
 
 770
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:41:00 -
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 Just don't cry for a respec if you go proto on day one and it's realized that it's OP in some way or another and gets nerfed.
 
 "By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32 | 
      
      
        |  Jacques Cayton II
 Providence Guard
 Templis Dragonaors
 
 103
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:43:00 -
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 I'm a Caldari loyalist proto rail day 1 baby
 
 We fight for the future of the State not our 
personal goals | 
      
      
        |  Aisha Ctarl
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 1729
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:48:00 -
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 I will, but I'll likely go to standard, try it out, and if I like it, dump my SP into it.
 
 Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming | 
      
      
        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 149
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:50:00 -
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 And everyone with proto CR and RR is going to march proudly into battle, holding a new piece of Minmatar/Caldari death betwixt their hands! ... Only to be two-shotted by the obviously superior Imperial Scrambler Rifle in the hands of someone fighting for the Empress! :D
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  Luk Manag
 of Terror
 TRE GAFFEL
 
 163
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 15:58:00 -
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 I'm going prof 5 on the assault combat rifles, and my alt will be prof 4 on the assault combat rifles. Charge up or burst fire sounds awful.
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        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
 1814
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:05:00 -
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 Luk Manag wrote:I'm going prof 5 on the assault combat rifles, and my alt will be prof 4 on the assault combat rifles. Charge up or burst fire sounds awful. 
 You know that Combat Rifle Proficiency covers all variants of the combat rifles, right?
 
 
 AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana | 
      
      
        |  Spectral Clone
 Dust2Dust.
 Top Men.
 
 492
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:08:00 -
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 ScR is king already... why spec into worse weapons? ;)
 
 +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. I Support SP Rollover. "Core Locus 514. AR 514. Bricktank 514. COD 514." | 
      
      
        |  Luk Manag
 of Terror
 TRE GAFFEL
 
 163
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:12:00 -
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 Reav Hannari wrote:Luk Manag wrote:I'm going prof 5 on the assault combat rifles, and my alt will be prof 4 on the assault combat rifles. Charge up or burst fire sounds awful. You know that Combat Rifle Proficiency covers all variants of the combat rifles, right? Yeah, but I wanted to emphasize the full auto variety because I don't plan on even trying the burst variant - burst damage is too low to be worth the effort, while the assault variant will be like an upgraded SMG.
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        |  Sinboto Simmons
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 2155
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:18:00 -
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 Combat rifle is going proto, and if this 'new equipment' is a cloak that too.
 
 Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB | 
      
      
        |  shaman oga
 Nexus Balusa Horizon
 
 942
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:24:00 -
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 I will save 24k to try both STD, then i will decide what i like most and proceed with that first.
 Probabily i will spend some AUR to try assault versions.
 
 "Just another piece of duct tape" Some love for gunners | 
      
      
        |  The dark cloud
 The Rainbow Effect
 
 1863
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:24:00 -
          [19] - Quote 
 I get them both cause i can save fitting costs with the combat rifle (slight better range too) and the rail rifle for long range fights.
 
 I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun | 
      
      
        |  Zekain K
 Expert Intervention
 Caldari State
 
 476
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 16:31:00 -
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 Proto rail wool! I don't care if it gets nerfed, I just want a caldari rifle... and an smg, or pistol.
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        |  Rei Shepard
 Spectre II
 
 944
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 17:22:00 -
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 i got 2.1m SP saved for the rail rifle, i need a new gun to play with, ive mastered the SCR after playing with it since day one it came out.
 
 Can't wait
 
 Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy" | 
      
      
        |  Sky Kage
 The dyst0pian Corporation
 Zero-Day
 
 45
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 17:26:00 -
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 I'll wait and see if its worth putting sp into first...
  
 Happiness is as a butterfly. when pursed it's always just beyond your grasp. but should you relax, It may alight you | 
      
      
        |  Daxxis KANNAH
 Distinct Covert Initiative
 
 449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 17:34:00 -
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 Spectral Clone wrote:ScR is king already... why spec into worse weapons? ;) 
 PG
  
 Also I think the CR can be fine when used on unsuspecting foes. The Adv is 100 dmg per burst at an insane RPM.
 - And no need to worry about overheating in a pinch.
 
 Still keeping ScR for my assassin fits but will change out AScR on most others.
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        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
 1814
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 17:50:00 -
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 Luk Manag wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Luk Manag wrote:I'm going prof 5 on the assault combat rifles, and my alt will be prof 4 on the assault combat rifles. Charge up or burst fire sounds awful. You know that Combat Rifle Proficiency covers all variants of the combat rifles, right?  Yeah, but I wanted to emphasize the full auto variety because I don't plan on even trying the burst variant - burst damage is too low to be worth the effort, while the assault variant will be like an upgraded SMG. 
 That's cool. I'm curious to see how the assault combat rifle compares to the SMG because that's become my primary weapon lately. The burst damage output and better range over assault looks interesting. I'll be trying out both versions. I run Min Logi and will probably put the burst on my 'Infiltrator' load out and the assault on my 'Defender' load out since its looks better for close quarters work.
 
 Only testing will tell though.
 
 AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana | 
      
      
        |  Aria Gomes
 Death by Disassociation
 Zero-Day
 
 118
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 18:10:00 -
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 I'm saving up SP now. Got my Assault Minmatar to lvl 4 from the triple sp event. Also some other stuff. I might use this active booster next week and put my Electronics and Engineering to lvl 4.
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        |  Joel II X
 AHPA
 
 141
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 18:14:00 -
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 I'll stick to my Gal Tech. (Except my scout really likes his assault scrambler rifle)
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 2768
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 18:17:00 -
          [27] - Quote 
 I just want a Gallente Sidearm, or at least a hybrid caldari sidearm
 
 The newer the berry the dumber the juice. | 
      
      
        |  Sephirian Fair
 0uter.Heaven
 Proficiency V.
 
 128
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 18:20:00 -
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 Proto Assault Combat rifle day 1! If there is a sharpshooter skill with it, that will be maxed day 1 also. Proficiency will have to wait, but if it works as I hope, it shouldn't be too long afterwards. ^_^
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 96
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 18:27:00 -
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 I have enough for the RR pro level 4. Hope it doesn't suck.
 
 The not logic bomb! | 
      
      
        |  Jaysyn Larrisen
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 290
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 19:40:00 -
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 I'll pick up standard Rail Rifle and perhaps the Combat rifle. Give them a whirl and then pile on the SP if they are legit.
 
 My big question...any idea what the skill trees are for these two weapons?
 
 My assumption for the RR:
 RR level - lowers dispersion by 5%???
 RR prof - standard damage increase
 reload speed - standard increase
 Ammo capacity - 5% add'l mag capacity???
 CPU/PG optimization - standard increase
 
 The big question is if the will have a sharpshooter skill to further assist in toning down the high recoil mentined by the Devs or perhaps something that will increase the ROF by 3% per level.
 
 Any clues on this, guys?
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1089
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 19:45:00 -
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 Aisha Ctarl wrote:I will, but I'll likely go to standard, try it out, and if I like it, dump my SP into it. I'll be doing this for the Combat Rifle, if I like it, I'll be going Prof 3 minimum
 
 @Jaysen
 I hope they have SS, otherwise they should remove it for the scrubstick, aka Assault Rifle
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Daxxis KANNAH
 Distinct Covert Initiative
 
 449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 19:49:00 -
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 Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:I'll pick up standard Rail Rifle and perhaps the Combat rifle. Give them a whirl and then pile on the SP if they are legit.
 My big question...any idea what the skill trees are for these two weapons?
 
 My assumption for the RR:
 RR level - lowers dispersion by 5%???
 RR prof - standard damage increase
 reload speed - standard increase
 Ammo capacity - 5% add'l mag capacity???
 CPU/PG optimization - standard increase
 
 The big question is if the will have a sharpshooter skill to further assist in toning down the high recoil mentined by the Devs or perhaps something that will increase the ROF by 3% per level.
 
 Any clues on this, guys?
 
 I think from what the guys gleaned off the server - only the CR has the sharpshooter skill.
 
 RR level may reduce kick, dispersion shouldnt be an issue.
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        |  Lynn Beck
 Granite Mercenary Division
 Top Men.
 
 234
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 19:55:00 -
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 Grabbing std rail, and proto CR day one.
 All my remaining SP will go to maxing out minmatar stuff.
 
 -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'" | 
      
      
        |  Zero Harpuia
 Turalyon 514
 Turalyon Alliance
 
 1158
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:15:00 -
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 I intend on using Proto Combat Rifles day 1... had the points stored up since 1.5 for Armok's sake. Of course, that depends on how well they work, I'm going to play a few rounds using the Standard ones before I go all-in. I may not be the first PRO CR, but I definitely won't be the first asking for a respec because I 'wasted' my points.
 
 ECM Equipment | 
      
      
        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
 1818
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:21:00 -
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 Zero Harpuia wrote:I intend on using Proto Combat Rifles day 1... had the points stored up since 1.5 for Armok's sake. Of course, that depends on how well they work, I'm going to play a few rounds using the Standard ones before I go all-in. I may not be the first PRO CR, but I definitely won't be the first asking for a respec because I 'wasted' my points. 
 This merc speaks smart words.
 
 AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana | 
      
      
        |  medomai grey
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 338
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:22:00 -
          [36] - Quote 
 I would get the standard variant on my alt and test it out first to see if I actually like the rifle. On paper, it seems to behave oddly...
 
 Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P | 
      
      
        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 
 268
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:27:00 -
          [37] - Quote 
 RR Op V
 RR Prof V
 RR ammo cap III
 RR reload III
 RR fitting op III.
 
 Your tears will be so tastey!
 
 Something witty here. 
How DOES one get a cat into a dropsuit? | 
      
      
        |  Pje251296
 KILL ORDERS
 
 154
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:33:00 -
          [38] - Quote 
 Hopefully I will get CR to proto with one proficency lvl for extra dmg and assault variant.
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        |  True Adamance
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 4130
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
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 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 If respect yes, if not no.
 
 But eitherway Leithe will have the basic Rail, and True might use the combat rifle.
 
 "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all" | 
      
      
        |  Chief-Shotty
 WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
 
 25
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 23:41:00 -
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 Yes I will get my Combat Rifle day 1. I like the burst weapons in the game. The Gal burst rifle are inconsistent because it has a really short range on it despite the scope but once you learn how to work it , its actually quite deadly.
 
 I want an all Minnie fit with the CR and SMG and I will be happy. Since the CR does more damage, has more range, and faster fire the Gal imitation. I don't think i'll be disappointed since im used to using the poor model of the burst . Of course i will try it out with aurum just to be safe but im excited I am sitting on 1.5 mill SP via 3x SP event and I still got another 2 weeks to work on the SP for the Operations skill.
 
 Although to those who are waiting for feedback first I don't blame them. I have a feeling at least one of the new guns will be OP and no one wants to be that guy who demands a respec after a well deserved OP weapon gets nerfed but it has happened and yes, history will repeat itself. Of course if anything is going to get nerfed i suspect the rail rifle will be. The numbers look overwhelming in favor of the RR but we don't know how the charge to fire will work and it may have heat buildup issues like the rail turrets since its the same tech.
 
 However, SCR rifles are on the border of suspected OP violations especially the imperial rifle but with the ranges being worked we will only find out how changes will work once 1.7 hits in Dec.
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        |  Shattered Mirage
 D.A.R.K Academy
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 357
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.14 23:46:00 -
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 Spectral Clone wrote:AR is king already... why spec into worse weapons? ;) 
 
 There are no facts, only interpretations. I am a monument to all your sins | 
      
      
        |  Jaysyn Larrisen
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 301
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:04:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want a Gallente Sidearm, or at least a hybrid caldari sidearm 
 I'm hoping to see the Caldari MagSec SMG one day.
 
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        |  Keri Starlight
 0uter.Heaven
 Proficiency V.
 
 2083
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:08:00 -
          [43] - Quote 
 As I said several times, Kaalakiota RR day 1.
 
 -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets" | 
      
      
        |  Fire of Prometheus
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1645
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:11:00 -
          [44] - Quote 
 I'm going basic for both and then I'll decide wether I want to go proto for either.....I currently have enough so to get 1 to proto
 
 "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies | 
      
      
        |  TechMechMeds
 Swamp Marines
 Kleenex Inc.
 
 1421
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:14:00 -
          [45] - Quote 
 
 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 
 Proto combat rifle hopefully but at least ADV for sure.
 
 Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP. | 
      
      
        |  Marston VC
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 1222
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:42:00 -
          [46] - Quote 
 
 calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 I guess I will. how much sp is required for proficiency 5 in a weapon.... 
 to get Opp 5 you need about 620k SP, to get Pro 5 you need around 1M
 
 Marston VC, STB director | 
      
      
        |  Musta Tornius
 Turalyon 514
 Turalyon Alliance
 
 652
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:52:00 -
          [47] - Quote 
 Combat Rifle
 RS-90 Combat Rifle
 Boundless Combat Rifle
 BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle
 Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
 SB-39 Rail Rifle
 Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
 Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle
 SL-4 Assault Rail Rifle
 Woundriot' Combat Rifle
 Leadgrave' RS-90 Combat Rifle
 Doomcradle' BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle
 Fearcrop' Boundless Combat Rifle
 Blisterrain' Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
 
 
 Rail Rifle
 SB-39 Rail Rifle
 Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
 Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle
 SL-4 Assault Rail Rifle
 Angerstar' Rail Rifle
 Grimcell' SB-39 Rail Rifle
 Bleakanchor' SL-4 Assault Rail Rifle
 Zerofrost' Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
 Crawtide' Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle
 
 Thought you might want to start memorising their names ^_^
 
 Dust514 Weapon Range & Information | 
      
      
        |  Cody Sietz
 Bullet Cluster
 Legacy Rising
 
 1444
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:54:00 -
          [48] - Quote 
 Probably go to level one on each and use AUR to test out the assault varients.
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Immortal Retribution
 
 1106
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 15:58:00 -
          [49] - Quote 
 Diurnal Soul should have the ADV Rr day 1
 
 "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein | 
      
      
        |  Rynoceros
 Rise Of Old Dudes
 
 1319
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 16:01:00 -
          [50] - Quote 
 Everybody that's ready to go "all in" on day 1 of new weapons obviously didn't go Flaylocks in 1.0
 
 Don't have too much fun with that or kill anybody, because CCP will drop a big, brown, steamer directly on it.
 
 Did the MagSec SMG get dropped?
 
 Cheeseburgers. | 
      
      
        |  Michael Hyperthraz
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 9
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 16:35:00 -
          [51] - Quote 
 Um, how do you recognize "race" of a weapons ?
 
 From this available now, wich are Minmatar ?
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        |  Cody Sietz
 Bullet Cluster
 Legacy Rising
 
 1444
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 16:50:00 -
          [52] - Quote 
 
 Michael Hyperthraz wrote:Um, how do you recognize "race" of a weapons ?
 From this available now, wich are Minmatar ?
 Do you mean what current weapons are Minmatar?
 
 That would be:
 Mass driver
 FlayLock
 SMG
 HMG
 I think Locus grenades as well.
 Annnnd that is all I can think of.
 
 We may see the precision rifle after the combat rifle drops.
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        |  mini rehak
 The Southern Legion
 The Umbra Combine
 
 128
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 17:29:00 -
          [53] - Quote 
 I plan on going ADV for both just to try them out. If they are badass enough then i'll go proto.
 
 I survived CCP's ban hammer, Bück Dich! | 
      
      
        |  D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
 0uter.Heaven
 Proficiency V.
 
 46
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 17:50:00 -
          [54] - Quote 
 
 calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 I guess I will. how much sp is required for proficiency 5 in a weapon.... 
 2.1 mil prof five n operation 5
 
 
 O.H Tourney Team:
slaying Regnums K.D
one PC at a time | 
      
      
        |  deepfried salad gilliam
 Sanguine Knights
 
 129
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 18:24:00 -
          [55] - Quote 
 Strap both to a commando suit lol
 Try both at once
 
 Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Dust should add open world , kinda like arma! | 
      
      
        |  axis alpha
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 78
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 18:41:00 -
          [56] - Quote 
 Is the rail rifle going to be like a tactical rifle or wut?
 
 The best part of waking up, 
is whiskey in my cuuuuup! | 
      
      
        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
 1093
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 18:43:00 -
          [57] - Quote 
 
 axis alpha wrote:Is the rail rifle going to be like a tactical rifle or wut?  
 Breach - Rail Rifle
 Burst - Combat Rifle
 Tactical - Scrambler Rifle
 Assault - Assault Rifle
 
 For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew? | 
      
      
        |  axis alpha
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 78
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 18:53:00 -
          [58] - Quote 
 Firing like a breach assualt rifle?
 
 The best part of waking up, 
is whiskey in my cuuuuup! | 
      
      
        |  Argent Mordred
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 14
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 22:30:00 -
          [59] - Quote 
 Kind of worried about the charge requirement for the rail rifle.
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        |  Patrick57
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 1497
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 23:15:00 -
          [60] - Quote 
 I'll try out Basic of the Combat Rifle, see how I like it.
 
 
 Now I want to put a Burst Assault Rifle on my Proto Suit :/
 
 ö/\ö :D | 
      
      
        |  ACE OF JOKERS
 AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
 
 48
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 23:17:00 -
          [61] - Quote 
 
 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just wondering how many mercs are saving Sp for the New weapons coming out in 1.7.
 Just post here what weapon you plan to proto on day 1
 
 Pfft i'll be running My Duvolle in my Proto Scout and getting behind you with it :3
 
 IMO, Duvolle = new Scout best friend.
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        |  Luk Manag
 of Terror
 TRE GAFFEL
 
 173
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.11.16 23:48:00 -
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 Rynoceros wrote:Everybody that's ready to go "all in" on day 1 of new weapons obviously didn't go Flaylocks in 1.0
 Don't have too much fun with that or kill anybody, because CCP will drop a big, brown, steamer directly on it.
 
 Did the MagSec SMG get dropped?
 
 I'm not worried this time because the devs obviously favor assault rifles. They will have the full line-up of racial assault rifles, and I expect the CR & RR to roughly equal the existing options.
 
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        |  Delanus Turgias
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
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 Chief-Shotty wrote:Yes I will get my Combat Rifle day 1. I like the burst weapons in the game. The Gal burst rifle are inconsistent because it has a really short range on it despite the scope but once you learn how to work it , its actually quite deadly. 
 I want an all Minnie fit with the CR and SMG and I will be happy. Since the CR does more damage, has more range, and faster fire the Gal imitation. I don't think i'll be disappointed since im used to using the poor model of the burst . Of course i will try it out with aurum just to be safe but im excited I am sitting on 1.5 mill SP via 3x SP event and I still got another 2 weeks to work on the SP for the Operations skill.
 
 Although to those who are waiting for feedback first I don't blame them. I have a feeling at least one of the new guns will be OP and no one wants to be that guy who demands a respec after a well deserved OP weapon gets nerfed but it has happened and yes, history will repeat itself. Of course if anything is going to get nerfed i suspect the rail rifle will be. The numbers look overwhelming in favor of the RR but we don't know how the charge to fire will work and it may have heat buildup issues like the rail turrets since its the same tech.
 
 However, SCR rifles are on the border of suspected OP violations especially the imperial rifle but with the ranges being worked we will only find out how changes will work once 1.7 hits in Dec.
 I don't understand why people think Scramblers are OP. It's just the prevalence of shield tanking and the influx of FOTM scrubs using them, they haven't been changed in the slightest since that one tiny change to the effect of the Op skill.
 
 I might use Combat Rifles, I liked the Allotek burst AR back in the day, but now it has **** range. Hopefully the CR will be better.
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        |  Ignoble Son
 3dge of D4rkness
 SoulWing Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 00:17:00 -
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 RR for my Cal alt and CR for my Mimi alt, day one. My main is Gal, despite the Cal pic to the left there. The only thing my main needs is an ion pistol... ? The magsec is that a Gal weapon... Hum?
 
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        |  Rynoceros
 Rise Of Old Dudes
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 00:50:00 -
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 Too lazy to search;
 Anybody know if either will have an Officer Weapon variant?
 
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        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 01:25:00 -
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 Rynoceros wrote:Too lazy to search; Anybody know if either will have an Officer Weapon variant?
 
 I sure hope not, if i can't have a officer scrambler rifle no one can have their favorite weapons as officer gear.
 
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        |  Lea Silencio
 0uter.Heaven
 Proficiency V.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 01:28:00 -
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 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Too lazy to search; Anybody know if either will have an Officer Weapon variant?
 I sure hope not, if i can't have a officer scrambler rifle no one can have their favorite weapons as officer gear. 
 Hell yes! Officer SCR's first!
 
 Btw Vik...your sig is missing a line at the bottom.
  
 
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        |  Th3rdSun
 L.O.T.I.S.
 Public Disorder.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 02:15:00 -
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 I have just over 3 mil unallocated SP on my main,and over 6 mil unallocated on two alternate accounts each.I'll test them on the alts,and if I like them,dump SP into them on my main.
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        |  Jaysyn Larrisen
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
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      | Posted - 2013.11.17 04:39:00 -
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 Ignoble Son wrote:RR for my Cal alt and CR for my Mimi alt, day one. My main is Gal, despite the Cal pic to the left there. The only thing my main needs is an ion pistol... ? The magsec, is that a Gal weapon... Hum? 
 The MagSec is a Caldari SMG. Notice that the assault SMGs are manufactured by Caldari arms manufacturers. Pretty widely speculated that the assault SMG is the place holder for the MagSec.
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