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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:19:00 -
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So will LP be exchangeable like isk is? If not I think it should be. I was thinking about it and if were going to be able to buy faction gear with isk through players, why shouldn't we be able to exchange isk for loyalty points directly? Of course, LP might be faction specific, but that really shouldn't matter.
I did the math and it would take around 15,000 wins to get lvl 10 on all four factions, so lets say I hypothetically did that and decided im a little tired of playing factional warfare. Shouldn't I be able to buy LP directly using isk or something else from other players who are willing to trade it?
Idk..... I was wondering what you guys think? Any input here?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:21:00 -
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I don't think you'd be able to hold LP for all four factions.
It'd be kinda hard fighting for the Minmatar Republic's freedom while scratching PIE's back at the same time.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4127
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:22:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:So will LP be exchangeable like isk is? If not I think it should be. I was thinking about it and if were going to be able to buy faction gear with isk through players, why shouldn't we be able to exchange isk for loyalty points directly? Of course, LP might be faction specific, but that really shouldn't matter.
I did the math and it would take around 15,000 wins to get lvl 10 on all four factions, so lets say I hypothetically did that and decided im a little tired of playing factional warfare. Shouldn't I be able to buy LP directly using isk or something else from other players who are willing to trade it?
Idk..... I was wondering what you guys think? Any input here?
You cannot get level 10 for all factions...if you can I am never coming back to this game because you know it will be forever arcade as ****.
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
1446
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:23:00 -
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It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1185
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:26:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D
You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things.
Marston VC, STB director
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
1446
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:27:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things.
**** I feel so stupid....
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
862
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:27:00 -
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on the eve side lp has a direct isk value. that doesn't mean that's how it will start out on the dust side, but that's the end goal. |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:So will LP be exchangeable like isk is? If not I think it should be. I was thinking about it and if were going to be able to buy faction gear with isk through players, why shouldn't we be able to exchange isk for loyalty points directly? Of course, LP might be faction specific, but that really shouldn't matter.
I did the math and it would take around 15,000 wins to get lvl 10 on all four factions, so lets say I hypothetically did that and decided im a little tired of playing factional warfare. Shouldn't I be able to buy LP directly using isk or something else from other players who are willing to trade it?
Idk..... I was wondering what you guys think? Any input here? You cannot get level 10 for all factions...if you can I am never coming back to this game because you know it will be forever arcade as ****.
Unfortunately you can get to level 10 in all factions, with a cost...
Playing for one faction reduces the standing for another, but if you have a Gallente booster while fighting for Caldari you are able to raise Caldari and keep Gallente from decreasing.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1186
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:So will LP be exchangeable like isk is? If not I think it should be. I was thinking about it and if were going to be able to buy faction gear with isk through players, why shouldn't we be able to exchange isk for loyalty points directly? Of course, LP might be faction specific, but that really shouldn't matter.
I did the math and it would take around 15,000 wins to get lvl 10 on all four factions, so lets say I hypothetically did that and decided im a little tired of playing factional warfare. Shouldn't I be able to buy LP directly using isk or something else from other players who are willing to trade it?
Idk..... I was wondering what you guys think? Any input here? You cannot get level 10 for all factions...if you can I am never coming back to this game because you know it will be forever arcade as ****.
Well I mean...... if you did the math you would realize that you can in-fact get level 10 in all factions.
If you win a battle you get 50 Standing points for that faction, but you also lose 10 standing points to the opposing faction. So because the ratio isn't 1:1 that means your able to play five wins on one faction, then go make it up to the other faction and win one time. That would bring the original factions standing points down to 240, and set the opposing factions SP to 0 again. And that's basically how you could do it.
id like to point out that it takes (mathematically) 7,000 WINS between two opposing sides to get level 10 for each. and it takes twice that to get lvl 10 on all four factions. It would take literally MONTHS to get lvl 10 on all four factions possibly even years.
Marston VC, STB director
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1186
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:31:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things. **** I feel so stupid....
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4129
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:48:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things.
FW is not about you LP gains its about ******* loyalty for christs sake. STICK with you faction or get our, CCP is already cocking up by not penalising players for supporting other factions..... if you want to fight in FW expect to face punishments of negative standing to the opposing factions, if you want to switch expect a big **** NO you just killed 3000 of our guys, or a we don't really trust you.....
FW is boring and bland because there is no reason to remain loyal except for your own discipline and most people don't have enough of the stuff to relegate themselves to one faction.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
EoN.
199
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:54:00 -
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Huh you say 15,000 wins for one faction to hit level 10, then you say 7,000 for two factions, so If I only played gallente how many victory's would I need to hit lvl 10.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1188
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:01:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Huh you say 15,000 wins for one faction to hit level 10, then you say 7,000 for two factions, so If I only played gallente how many victory's would I need to hit lvl 10.
I actually said it would take 15,000 wins to get level 10 on all FOUR factions.
It takes 7,000 wins to get level 10 on Two opposing factions.
it would take 3,000 wins to get level 10 on two allied factions (ie: Gallente and minmatar)
and it takes 1,500 wins to get level 10 for any random faction
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1188
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things. FW is not about you LP gains its about ******* loyalty for christs sake. STICK with you faction or get our, CCP is already cocking up by not penalising players for supporting other factions..... if you want to fight in FW expect to face punishments of negative standing to the opposing factions, if you want to switch expect a big **** NO you just killed 3000 of our guys, or a we don't really trust you..... FW is boring and bland because there is no reason to remain loyal except for your own discipline and most people don't have enough of the stuff to relegate themselves to one faction.
Actually I believe that FW should be about whatever you want it to be. If I want to be a perfectionist and get level 10 in all four factions then I should be allowed to if im willing to work that much for it. If I want to be loyal then ill be loyal. If I want to have access to all four faction stores, then I should be allowed to have access to them. Simple as that.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4129
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:23:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things. FW is not about you LP gains its about ******* loyalty for christs sake. STICK with you faction or get our, CCP is already cocking up by not penalising players for supporting other factions..... if you want to fight in FW expect to face punishments of negative standing to the opposing factions, if you want to switch expect a big **** NO you just killed 3000 of our guys, or a we don't really trust you..... FW is boring and bland because there is no reason to remain loyal except for your own discipline and most people don't have enough of the stuff to relegate themselves to one faction. Actually I believe that FW should be about whatever you want it to be. If I want to be a perfectionist and get level 10 in all four factions then I should be allowed to if im willing to work that much for it. If I want to be loyal then ill be loyal. If I want to have access to all four faction stores, then I should be allowed to have access to them. Simple as that.
Dude what idiots these agents would have to be to hire known enemies to work for them. Who would do this.
....Sorry but that fact you don't register these bonus points are LOYALTY POINTS, kinda flaws your own position.
If you want to be a merc FW is not for you, fight for your own ideals in PC or in pubs, if you want to fight for a cause of reason given to you then FW is for you.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1195
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Marston VC wrote:Patrick57 wrote:It would be pretty counter productive to what CCP has in mind of making FW an option of what people want to play.
If I could just go buy it, why do I need to play this certain game mode that will ultimately end in me losing money to get it?
But, it would be interesting of you could by LP for other factions without tipping your standings from your faction of choice. I'd be interested in this so I could get my Scramblers and Logi suit whilst still playing for the Gallente :D You need to play for any specific faction to gain access to their stores. The higher your level is in a faction, the more stuff you have access too. That's why you would "need" to play. My whole point was that it takes around 1500 WINS to get to level 10 for ONE faction. Do you realize how much commitment that is to just one faction? It only makes sense the option to buy LP should be there. Its not like Im saying you can buy standing..... Standing and LP are completely different things. FW is not about you LP gains its about ******* loyalty for christs sake. STICK with you faction or get our, CCP is already cocking up by not penalising players for supporting other factions..... if you want to fight in FW expect to face punishments of negative standing to the opposing factions, if you want to switch expect a big **** NO you just killed 3000 of our guys, or a we don't really trust you..... FW is boring and bland because there is no reason to remain loyal except for your own discipline and most people don't have enough of the stuff to relegate themselves to one faction. Actually I believe that FW should be about whatever you want it to be. If I want to be a perfectionist and get level 10 in all four factions then I should be allowed to if im willing to work that much for it. If I want to be loyal then ill be loyal. If I want to have access to all four faction stores, then I should be allowed to have access to them. Simple as that. Dude what idiots these agents would have to be to hire known enemies to work for them. Who would do this. ....Sorry but that fact you don't register these bonus points are LOYALTY POINTS, kinda flaws your own position. If you want to be a merc FW is not for you, fight for your own ideals in PC or in pubs, if you want to fight for a cause of reason given to you then FW is for you.
The whole basis of this game is that we ARE mercenaries........
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10222
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:40:00 -
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Not feasible or a useful feature, I rather wait for something far more practical, like market, player to player trade, and corp armories.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:40:00 -
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Unfortunately, not everyone is patriotic about their birthright faction. Some only want the money.
For me, I look forward to freeing my Minmitar allies and protecting the freedom of the Gallenteans and being duly rewarded for it.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1196
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Not feasible or a useful feature, I rather wait for something far more practical, like market, player to player trade, and corp armories.
How is it not feasible or useful as a feature? It should come into the game the same time Player to Player trading does as an in-game asset that can be traded just like everything else is going to be. Corporate armories is one way to do it, but A.) not everyone is in a corporation that will allow for trading to be done that way. and B.) I get the impression that sort of function isn't going to come until some time after the P2P market opens up.
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