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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2013
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:57:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:so what kind of love did the LR get?
Still nothing, but CCP confirmed that GM wants to give it some love
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
88
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:58:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Maybe I am missing the point. Is this a "Please buff the AR" post? Really? Everyone one else on these forums (non-AR users) are yelling "HD fixes made AR OP" (and if we are honest with ourselves, all other weapons that were buffed to compensate for previous bad HD, not to mention a whole whack of nerfs to various things to pretend HD was better than it was).
I don't understand the AR community. It's like a constant theme of "Please make easy mode easier!"
I don't mean to be rude, I don't. And I am not meaning to troll. I am just as equally frustrated with this build, but apparently for the exact opposite reasons as the Op. ..... I though it was clear that I don't like the AR buff in 1.7. I rarely use the AR, I dislike it. I'm asking for the Breach, the Burst, the Tactical and the Laser Rifle (it's confirmed, the Laser will be buffed) to be buffed. I thought it was clear... maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. In this case, my apologies.
Well in this case how about all those variants stay the same and AR takes a major nerf? Otherwise your logic sounds like:
"It's not fair that the AR is so OP, please make all other variants similarly OP or more!" Again, Really? |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
481
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:03:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub. LOL, did you even read the thread? The part where I complain about AR being buffed and variants being too weak? Are you stupid or something?
First AR QQ thread. Grats to you sir.
Edit: Taking a break and all is good, but turning your thread into a buff the TAC AR thread is not. Please live with your choices like the rest of us do. Just use a regular AR. It is the besg weapon in the game by far.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2015
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:07:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub. LOL, did you even read the thread? The part where I complain about AR being buffed and variants being too weak? Are you stupid or something? First AR QQ thread. Grats to you sir.
Very simple:
The AR was already extremely powerful and it's being buffed.
The Tac AR was balanced and it's being nerfed.
This is what my topic is about. Do you think it's fair? Do you think it's good design?
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2016
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:11:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Maybe I am missing the point. Is this a "Please buff the AR" post? Really? Everyone one else on these forums (non-AR users) are yelling "HD fixes made AR OP" (and if we are honest with ourselves, all other weapons that were buffed to compensate for previous bad HD, not to mention a whole whack of nerfs to various things to pretend HD was better than it was).
I don't understand the AR community. It's like a constant theme of "Please make easy mode easier!"
I don't mean to be rude, I don't. And I am not meaning to troll. I am just as equally frustrated with this build, but apparently for the exact opposite reasons as the Op. ..... I though it was clear that I don't like the AR buff in 1.7. I rarely use the AR, I dislike it. I'm asking for the Breach, the Burst, the Tactical and the Laser Rifle (it's confirmed, the Laser will be buffed) to be buffed. I thought it was clear... maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. In this case, my apologies. Well in this case how about all those variants stay the same and AR takes a major nerf? Otherwise your logic sounds like: "It's not fair that the AR is so OP, please make all other variants similarly OP or more!" Again, Really?
*Sighs*
Do you think I would be complaining if they didn't buff the AR and nerf the Tac?
The Laser Rifle will be useless too. What about the poor Laser? Outdamaged and outranged by the Rail Rifle. Does this sound ok to you?
If they buff the AR they need to buff these weapons too. Period.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
481
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:13:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub. LOL, did you even read the thread? The part where I complain about AR being buffed and variants being too weak? Are you stupid or something? First AR QQ thread. Grats to you sir. Very simple: The AR was already extremely powerful and it's being buffed. The Tac AR was balanced and it's being nerfed. This is what my topic is about. Do you think it's fair? Do you think it's good design?
There is a reason for it. Diversity on the battlefield is one reason. CCP making money off boosters is another one. I realized the other day that the AR has 4 variants. At least one of them has to be useful in 1.7.
+¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13.
I Support SP Rollover.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2017
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:24:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:so what kind of love did the LR get?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1412603#post1412603
Finally, I've found that thread. This is for you guys asking about the Laser Rifle!
I don't know what kind of love, but CCP is positive about it
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
911
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:47:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub.
Blasters were never meant to have the range it has. The range was just a placeholder. 1.7 QQ will be delicious. Getting some buckets to collect them tears. Tactical and Burst Assault Rifles require lots of skill. And training to master it
I don't care if it was meant as a placeholder, without range the TAC and Burst assault rifles are better off as sidearms. And the Tacitcal Assault Rifle is..... TACTICAL! Meaning that is supposed to be long range.
Pick up a TAR or burst and then say it requires no skill.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
911
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:53:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub. LOL, did you even read the thread? The part where I complain about AR being buffed and variants being too weak? Are you stupid or something? First AR QQ thread. Grats to you sir. Edit: Taking a break and all is good, but turning your thread into a buff the TAC AR thread is not. Please live with your choices like the rest of us do. Just use a regular AR. It is the besg weapon in the game by far. Why should she be forced to use a weapon to remain competitive?
With the nerf coming to TAR's, they will be the biggest joke in this game, taking a spot next to Commandos, Scouts, and the HMG
She picked a long ranged weapon, now it's going to be a CQC Rubber Chicken? Did we pick a long range weapon or a rubber chicken? That's not living with your choices, why? Because I picked the long range weapon and not a rubber chicken.
Try again, and this time use logic.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
483
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:56:00 -
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Thanks darlin! On a side note, when we gonna game together again? I see you have joined the force, I could use some of that awesomeness of yours again!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
911
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:57:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:Keri Starlight wrote: .....
I though it was clear that I don't like the AR buff in 1.7. I rarely use the AR, I dislike it.
I'm asking for the Breach, the Burst, the Tactical and the Laser Rifle (it's confirmed, the Laser will be buffed) to be buffed.
I thought it was clear... maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. In this case, my apologies.
Well in this case how about all those variants stay the same and AR takes a major nerf? Otherwise your logic sounds like: "It's not fair that the AR is so OP, please make all other variants similarly OP or more!" Again, Really???? All of the other variants were balanced besides the Vanilla Assault Rifle.
All we want is to have the balanced weapons remain as is, and the unbalanced weapons changed
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
484
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Jak'Saan wrote:Keri Starlight wrote: .....
I though it was clear that I don't like the AR buff in 1.7. I rarely use the AR, I dislike it.
I'm asking for the Breach, the Burst, the Tactical and the Laser Rifle (it's confirmed, the Laser will be buffed) to be buffed.
I thought it was clear... maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. In this case, my apologies.
Well in this case how about all those variants stay the same and AR takes a major nerf? Otherwise your logic sounds like: "It's not fair that the AR is so OP, please make all other variants similarly OP or more!" Again, Really???? All of the other variants were balanced besides the Vanilla Assault Rifle. All we want is to have the balanced weapons remain as is, and the unbalanced weapons changed
The problem is that right now everything is balance over an imbalance in the game, so when tweaks come out sometimes they create another imbalance in something that was balanced before.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
918
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:06:00 -
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I want a rainbow beam. That would be the greatest buff to LR imo simply cause nobody would ever kill the source of a rainbow... maybe... and then... rainbows are pretty... pretty and...
Oh Fk it just give me a rainbow beam.
- An unstoppable force of Rainbows.
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:39:00 -
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Wow so I hate to admit it but thanks to the Black Eagle challenge, I tried AR for the first time since Closed Beta with no sp into AR at all. It was so easy that I was top of the charts by staying at a very far distance an ADS killing reds. It made me really see how OP AR is and how crappy all other weapons really are... even my beloved SG.
I knew it was bad but I had no idea it was that bad. It actually made me furious to see how easy it was. As a scout suit I was taking down mediums and heavies before they even knew where I was because I was so far. They would hide behind obstacles with their back to me and I'd finish them off. Hell... I was mowing down suckers from hip shots.
As a senior software engineer I have to finally say DUST 514 is a horrible piece of software. Their devs should be embarrassed. I wish I never tried the AR because for the first time since closed beta, I have no intention of capping out this week. It will be my first voluntary week missed and I'm not sure if/when I will feel like picking this game up anymore.
All hail AR 514... CCP you succeeded in convincing me nothing else was worth investing in.
To OP: I guess we will both end up leaving for the exact opposite reasons. Ironic. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2052
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:18:00 -
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Jak'Saan wrote:Wow so I hate to admit it but thanks to the Black Eagle challenge, I tried AR for the first time since Closed Beta with no sp into AR at all. It was so easy that I was top of the charts by staying at a very far distance an ADS killing reds. It made me really see how OP AR is and how crappy all other weapons really are... even my beloved SG.
I knew it was bad but I had no idea it was that bad. It actually made me furious to see how easy it was. As a scout suit I was taking down mediums and heavies before they even knew where I was because I was so far. They would hide behind obstacles with their back to me and I'd finish them off. Hell... I was mowing down suckers from hip shots.
As a senior software engineer I have to finally say DUST 514 is a horrible piece of software. Their devs should be embarrassed. I wish I never tried the AR because for the first time since closed beta, I have no intention of capping out this week. It will be my first voluntary week missed and I'm not sure if/when I will feel like picking this game up anymore.
All hail AR 514... CCP you succeeded in convincing me nothing else was worth investing in.
To OP: I guess we will both end up leaving for the exact opposite reasons. Ironic.
You missed the point, lol. I dislike the automatic AR and I complained abot the upcoming buff to the AR and the nerf to the Tac.
Is it really that hard to understand?
EDIT: It' even in my damn signature!
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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lok rark
StealthSquad
10
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:37:00 -
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Its unfortunate... i have no problem with the TacAr.
If you look at it from a heavy perspective though, you can at least change your TacAr for an Ar. (Dont rage quite.. im just saying) Imagine they had nerfed all Ar and Tac variations etc into the ground. Thats HMG. I know you dont want to switch. I didn't want to switch to assault MD. But other players need to have their guns fixed because they cant even switch to a variation. We have to switch to a whole new suit/weapon.
On a side note Id like to salute you for banning the douvolle. Weapon is extreme OP when the players ban it. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
595
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:54:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:All I see here is: WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA MOMMY I WANT MY AR BACK!!!
HTFU AR scrub. LOL, did you even read the thread? The part where I complain about AR being buffed and variants being too weak? Are you stupid or something? First AR QQ thread. Grats to you sir. Edit: Taking a break and all is good, but turning your thread into a buff the TAC AR thread is not. Please live with your choices like the rest of us do. Just use a regular AR. It is the besg weapon in the game by far.
"says AR is best weapon in game"
You clearly are not aware of the awesome that is the Imperial Scrambler Rifle.
And if you are, you're an idiot.
Honestly? Even if you aren't aware of it.
EDIT: for what it's worth, I saw that change and wondered what is the point... kinda making the TAR unusable, beyond the masochism that it is right now.
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
40
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:03:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:People complained about the Tactical AR having more range than the Scrambler, which already was a superior gun in terms of accuracy, ROF, DPS, charge mechanic, etc... (Thanks to these people, really really thank you: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009163#post1009163) What CCP did? They buffed the Scrambler's range from 48 to 78m... AND they nerfed the Tactical AR's range! .
''which already was a superior gun in terms of accuracy, ROF, DPS, charge mechanic, etc...'' And inferior in terms of Overheat mechanic, More sp to get to proto, Insane PG usage,less range than a weapon imitating it,etc... Not to mention the TAC AR IS a copy of the Scrambler rifle. Maybe it was NOT needed the TAC-AR range nerf,but the range buff on the scrambler was clearly needed.
on other notes. You might say the ASCR is solid. But in no way its better than the weapons its imitating.
a Simple ''Toxin AR'' with Prof 4 can rip a hole in your helmet at 40+ mts while you are hitting the floor and lamp posts with all the recoil the ASCR has. The ASCR is a solid CQ weapon,strangly enough,but it does not OUTSHINE regular AR variants... |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
2069
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:06:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:
''which already was a superior gun in terms of accuracy, ROF, DPS, charge mechanic, etc...'' And inferior in terms of Overheat mechanic, More sp to get to proto, Insane PG usage,less range than a weapon imitating it,etc... Not to mention the TAC AR IS a copy of the Scrambler rifle. Maybe it was NOT needed the TAC-AR range nerf,but the range buff on the scrambler was clearly needed.
on other notes. You might say the ASCR is solid. But in no way its better than the weapons its imitating.
a Simple ''Toxin AR'' with Prof 4 can rip a hole in your helmet at 40+ mts while you are hitting the floor and lamp posts with all the recoil the ASCR has. The ASCR is a solid CQ weapon,strangly enough,but it does not OUTSHINE regular AR variants...
The Imperial Scrambler is the best weapon in the game right now. Not saying it's the easiest, which is the Duvolle.
I think that, after the range buff, the Scrambler will be the primary target for all the community's QQ.
On a side note, the Scrambler doesn't take more SP to get proto. The Tac takes more SP, since you need Operation Lv5 and Proficiency 1 to use the Duvolle Tac. And the Tac's mag is really limited, so the overheat on the Scrambler is not really that different: The Tac has 18 rounds and slow ROF. The Scrambler can shoot 15-20 rapid shots before blowing up in your face.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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