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Apison Valusgeffen THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 12	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:33:00 - [1] - Quote Let me preface this by saying; Yes, I should have died. Both my shields and armor were low and recovering. I knew one more engagement too soon would do me in. I'm not complaining just asking. Now with that said, my question is: What is the effective range of a sub machinegun? I ask because I was taken down by a Toxin Sub Machinegun at 70m. That seemed a little far to me, but I'm not sure. Again, I'm not calling for a nerf of the sub machinegun, I'm not railing against sub machineguns, this is not a QQ, just a curiosity.
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 144	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:34:00 - [2] - Quote SMG is an 80, more if you use minny suit, bullet AR. 2 SMGs on a minny assault are fun.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1134	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:05:00 - [3] - Quote Second gunman, Kennedy style. Essentially, someone stole you as a kill. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 100/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Apison Valusgeffen THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 12	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:49:00 - [4] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Second gunman, Kennedy style. Essentially, someone stole you as a kill. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah I get that. I just didn't know the SMG had that kind of range.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1247	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:55:00 - [5] - Quote I was in a 2v1 I took out the first guy with carthum then got the other guy lower armour and killed him with an smg this was around 65-75m I'm everyone's type
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 100	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:10:00 - [6] - Quote I don't know the answer to your question, but I will add these tidbits.... I've had quite a few kills at 60+ meters with the SMG. Remember, it does more damage to armor than shields, and headshots count.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 968	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:17:00 - [7] - Quote Apison Valusgeffen wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: Second gunman, Kennedy style. Essentially, someone stole you as a kill. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah I get that. I just didn't know the SMG had that kind of range. All hitscan weapons have a potentially unlimited range, its to do with optimal, effective, absolute ranges! I remember in 1.2 bullets would physically cease to exist after a certain range! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2096	Posted - 2013.11.12 11:31:00 - [8] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Apison Valusgeffen wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: Second gunman, Kennedy style. Essentially, someone stole you as a kill. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah I get that. I just didn't know the SMG had that kind of range. All hitscan weapons have a potentially unlimited range, its to do with optimal, effective, absolute ranges! I remember in 1.2 bullets would physically cease to exist after a certain range! I'm not sure this is true. It could just be that many weapon's ranges are greater than the terrible draw distance. No.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1137	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:44:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: I'm not sure this is true. It could just be that many weapon's ranges are greater than the terrible draw distance. Hard to test either way, but that would still result in an SMG killing the OP. If you can see it, you can hurt it. (Just a question of how much.) ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 100/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 161	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:52:00 - [10] - Quote Apison Valusgeffen wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: Second gunman, Kennedy style. Essentially, someone stole you as a kill. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah I get that. I just didn't know the SMG had that kind of range. Yeah its got a pretty large range! But at that distance it's barley chipping you. Gÿé Syeven 514

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7519	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:01:00 - [11] - Quote The SMG scares me much more than any HMG Fan Fiction \ Broke Dropship Pilot /
Roofer Madness 531	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:05:00 - [12] - Quote Totally do-able OP. I steal people's kill - I mean finish reds off from that distance all the time. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1799	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:08:00 - [13] - Quote Minmatar pilots fights in falloff and I'm happy to see that now happens in DUST as well. The damage isn't great but you fling enough lead at someone and eventually they'll go down and the Minmatar weapons are good for flinging lots of ammo. I've had victims run away from me at 20% armor and its taken an entire magazine to finish them off but I've done it. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 723	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:52:00 - [14] - Quote Apison Valusgeffen wrote: Let me preface this by saying; Yes, I should have died. Both my shields and armor were low and recovering. I knew one more engagement too soon would do me in. I'm not complaining just asking. Now with that said, my question is: What is the effective range of a sub machinegun? I ask because I was taken down by a Toxin Sub Machinegun at 70m. That seemed a little far to me, but I'm not sure. Again, I'm not calling for a nerf of the sub machinegun, I'm not railing against sub machineguns, this is not a QQ, just a curiosity. Minmatar weapons seem to operate consistent with minmatar weapons in EVE. They have a very small optimal but a large falloff range. Falloff range is their effective range. You always fight in your falloff/effective range with minmatar weapons and then you are lucky if you do get within optimal. At optimal they will rip it up. Unlike Gallente blasters which have small but farther optimal range but have very small falloff/effective range. So you can fight in your optimal. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1251	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:56:00 - [15] - Quote I think the ishukone assault smg stops doing damage at around 80meters, I am speaking purely from memory thought. One thing I do know is that the ar has an optimal of 1- infinite meters... "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå


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